The "Godfather of Graffiti" out here disrespecting Hip Hop
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Do you view Graffiti as a part of Hip Hop?
I've always heard about how some of the first generation writers never ? with hip hop and dont view the graffiti movement as a part of it. After watching Style Wars the other day I found this interview with Seen, who was a part of Style Wars and is still called the Godfather of Graffiti today. And this dude out here saying ? rap ? breakdance and all that ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE7m6nxLhk
Dude sounds like a ? hater but he is a dope ass artist, he made one of the most famous wholecar pieces ever back in 1980:
Almost all the early MCs and DJs had a graffiti background but now it seems like theres no connection between street art and the rap game anymore, other than Jay bragging about Basquiats.
Style Wars is still a really dope documentary btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EW22LzSaJA&pxtry=1
I've always heard about how some of the first generation writers never ? with hip hop and dont view the graffiti movement as a part of it. After watching Style Wars the other day I found this interview with Seen, who was a part of Style Wars and is still called the Godfather of Graffiti today. And this dude out here saying ? rap ? breakdance and all that ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCE7m6nxLhkDude sounds like a ? hater but he is a dope ass artist, he made one of the most famous wholecar pieces ever back in 1980:
Almost all the early MCs and DJs had a graffiti background but now it seems like theres no connection between street art and the rap game anymore, other than Jay bragging about Basquiats.
Style Wars is still a really dope documentary btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EW22LzSaJA&pxtry=1 Comments
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so what? i've mentioned before you don't need to like all of hip hop culture to like hip hop
for the most part i'm not a fan of graffetti or breakdancing either -
Who cares what he has to say?
Lee, Dondi, Phase 2 and Case >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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graffitti pre dates hiphop
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This dude is an idiot. We all know that each element of Hip Hop existed on it's own. It was Bambata and the Zulu nation that fused these art forms together into what is called Hip Hop. Hip Hop was created to bring gang rivalries and the separation of these individual arts together. You cannot say you Love Hip Hop and not Love each element.
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dude a legend but i was never into his work.
Dondi>>>>>>
and as far as bombing i rather the 90's dudes work more
Xtc/YKK Krew (Ja,Kez5,Skuf,Noxer,Spot etc)
FTR Krew (Slash,Ve,Desa,Sn,Kech)
CSone,Foe,Ghost,
Pgism,DG,Asp,Oro -
I guess he upset K.B. retired too
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so what? i've mentioned before you don't need to like all of hip hop culture to like hip hop
for the most part i'm not a fan of graffetti or breakdancing either
Idiot post.
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dalyricalbandit wrote: »dude a legend but i was never into his work.
Dondi>>>>>>
and as far as bombing i rather the 90's dudes work more
Xtc/YKK Krew (Ja,Kez5,Skuf,Noxer,Spot etc)
FTR Krew (Slash,Ve,Desa,Sn,Kech)
Pgism,DG,Asp,Oro
Truth.
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graffitti pre dates RAP
Graffitti Is Hip-Hop Along With Breaking, DJing and Emceeing
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nawledge_? wrote: »
Graffitti again pre dates hiphop just rapping does. I'll elaborate further punkheads, heavy metal heads, racists skinheads etc were all doing graffitti before and during "hiphop graffitti" run.
Davey D HipHop Historian broke it down in 1999. -
I know writers that worked with him... Dude is a legend...
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Graffitti been around since cave men
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Who cares what he has to say?
Lee, Dondi, Phase 2 and Case >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I care what he has to say. He's a legend.
And as far as the writers you listed, LEE is the only one that you can say is hands down better than Seen. Seen is mos def a top 5 writer from the old school. When I say old school I mean sneaking into the train yards late at night and painting a top-to-bottom whole car before sunrise. Not getting a permit to paint on the side of a wall.
When people say graffiti is one of the elements this is what they mean; In the late 70s and early 80s the DJs would set up their sound systems outside in the parks in The Bronx. The MCs and Breakdancers would do their thing while the DJ was mixing records. Every 10 or 15 minutes a fully painted train would pass by with somebody's name written in block letters. So if you lived in that area of New York City you can see how it all came together.
Now if you've never seen a pained train then I can see how you might not consider graffiti part of Hip Hop.
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I think a lot of his hate comes from the fact that rap,djing,and breakdancing all were commercialized and made more money than Graff writing.
if he says ? hip hop,I say ? him. -
I think a lot of his hate comes from the fact that rap,djing,and breakdancing all were commercialized and made more money than Graff writing.
if he says ? hip hop,I say ? him.
Nosign. He has paintings that sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars. he gets commissioned to paint murals all over the world.
