South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder In Black Man’s Death

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  • Trillfate
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    mryounggun wrote: »
    Footage looks fake as ? .

    Smh @ the people who co-signed this acting so outraged to what they regard as a fake vid.
    I cosigned becuz it does LOOK fake... it looks unreal like a low budget action flick

    noone is suggesting the vid IS fake
  • ghostdog56
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    If this makes it to trial then I think he's gonna get off because if he doesn't plead guilty to a lesser charge then that means he is hoping to get one of those racist red necks on the jury to at least force a hung jury
  • stringer bell
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    Stiff wrote: »
    Well im watching msnbc now.. im sure cnn had theres as well

    what show on msnbc i'm gonna try to catch it online later

    Chris Hayes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9j45xnjl1U

    Here's the interview w/ the hero Dominican ? who filmed that murderous pig doing that ? ? ...
  • lethal5
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    Even with the cops wearing Bodycams, dont be suprised if theres still fuckery. I could just see it, cops gotta wear cams....but their wont be no real punishment if they turn them off during a violent dispute.

    .....these crackers will find a way to balance it out.
  • D. Morgan
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Can't wait for the media to call their favorite house ? to spin this around and make the victim the villain. I'm sick and tired of rallies and marches. We can do more damage raising money for the family. Someone drop the LEGITIMATE link, and I'll put up some money up. This ? is ? despicable. I still don't understand why Black people continue to get vilified, demonized, and violated.
    ? help us.

    The answer is because we as black people don't tell our story or control our own narrative.

    White people tell our story and control our narrative.

    They are our sworn enemy and they will never portray us in a good light or even be fair with image of us that they put out to the world. Why would they when they don't like us and even hate us.

    The news, movies, tv (reality and scripted) is shown to us black people and everybody else through the eyes of a white person. If a black person writes and or directs it before its release it has to be edited and approved by a white person.

    Until we as black people put out our own news and stories by us and for us we will always continue to be vilified, demonized, lied about, violated, etc.
  • D. Morgan
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    Stiff wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    DarcSkies wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Y'all know this dude isn't gonna get convicted of murder, right?

    Some killers get convicted some dont. The fact he was even charged is a minor victory.

    I kinda look at it the other way, fam. To placate people with the charges and then not get the murder conviction is way more insulting to me. And I have no clue why these ? have ANY confidence that this clown is gonna get convicted of murder.

    ? was on tape and was soooooo blatant. Dude's own lawyer stepped away from the case after the tape came out. This is like Rodney King x1000. If the cop walks it's gonna be real ugly.

    I would genuinely be shocked SHOCKED if he walks. Even knowing history that would just be over the top with it.

    I hate to say this but we as a people might need that ? to happen.

    Some black people just to passive and seeing something so blatent as that cop shooting that man in the back and getting off just might make them get the ? up a realize this ? could happen to me or my loved ones. No matter how much money I have or where I live.

    It might make us come together as a group and depend on our own again and not look outside of black people first for whatever we need.

    Its just a thought.
  • T. Sanford
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    corey holcomb 51/50 show

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfRL6dnjbXs

    start around 30 mins for them talking about the shooting. he goes in on stephen a at ~50 mins
    Corey Holcomb went in on Stephen A & Monique.
  • D. Morgan
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    ghostdog56 wrote: »
    If this makes it to trial then I think he's gonna get off because if he doesn't plead guilty to a lesser charge then that means he is hoping to get one of those racist red necks on the jury to at least force a hung jury

    You have to be offered a lesser charge first.

    Sometimes when the prosecuetion has a person dead to rights like this they don't offer you ? cause they going to make an example out of you.

    His lawyer might have to ask them what are yall offering if my client pleads guilty.
  • JusDre313
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    Trillfate wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Footage looks fake as ? .

    Smh @ the people who co-signed this acting so outraged to what they regard as a fake vid.
    I cosigned becuz it does LOOK fake... it looks unreal like a low budget action flick

    noone is suggesting the vid IS fake

    hes a ? idiot fam..
  • stringer bell
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    salon.com/2015/04/08/black_death_has_become_a_cultural_spectacle_why_the_walter_scott_tragedy_wont_change_white_americas_mind/
    Black death has become a cultural spectacle: Why the Walter Scott tragedy won’t change White America’s mind

    The most recent coldblooded police slaughter of an unarmed Black man is not the story of “one bad apple.” I refuse to narrate this story as another “isolated incident.”

    On Saturday morning, Michael Thomas Slager, a police officer in North Charleston, South Carolina, shot and killed Walter Scott, after pulling Scott over for a broken tail light. Slager initially claimed that he used his taser on Scott after Scott ran during the traffic stop. He then claimed that Scott tried to take his taser. Therefore, Slager was forced to use his gun.

    But video shot by an anonymous bystander shows a very different, chilling version of events: As the video begins, the two men’s hands are interlocked. It’s unclear what is happening. But a second or so later, Scott breaks free and runs at a fairly slow pace away from the officer. Slager calmly pulls out his gun, aims and fires eight times at Scott’s retreating back. He then walks over to Scott’s now prone and bullet-ridden body, and handcuffs him, without offering him any medical assistance. Another officer, a Black man, arrives on the scene and also fails to administer any aid to the victim. Meanwhile, Slager, retraces his steps a few feet, picks up a dark object, widely believed to be the taser, casually saunters back over and tosses the object near the victim’s body. The nonchalance, the lack of urgency, is almost as unsettling as the murder itself. The casual way that Slager aims, fires and snuffs out Walter Scott’s life is devastating.

    On Tuesday, Slager was charged with first-degree murder. I am glad there are charges. I hope for a conviction. But charges and convictions are not the ultimate solution here. We need the killings to stop. We need the state to stop creating a culture that facilitates the taking of Black lives and that induces Black mothers’ tears. Walter Scott belonged to somebody. He has brothers, parents who have been married for 50 years; and he has four children of his own.

    We keep shouting that Black lives matter, for one simple reason. We want Black folks to live.

    Lest anyone be tempted to excuse this as again just another bad apple, the San Francisco chief of police fired eight police officers late last week, after evidence surfaced of them trading racist and homophobic text messages. One text message read: “All ? must ? hang.” And another said, “cross burning lowers blood pressure. I did the test myself.” How many rotten apples do we need before we start chopping down the apple tree?

    How do we find both explicit and implicit disregard for Black life among police in locales as disparate as San Francisco, North Charleston and Ferguson?

    One day after Slager’s arrest, Black folks are being treated to an endless replay of this murder on cable news. There is no collective sense that being inundated with video and imagery of these racialized murders of Black men by the police might traumatize and retraumatize Black people who have yet another body to add to a pile of bodies. Black death has become a cultural spectacle.


    On Sept. 11, 2001, parents called into news stations around the country to ask them to stop re-airing footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers. News stations complied. Yet Black children got up and went to school this morning, and went to bed last night with video of a white police officer callously killing a Black man running on loop. What about our children? What about their sense of safety? Let me count the ways that seeing the police murder of Black people erodes their fragile sense of security. Who should they turn to when they are in danger?

    Police officers (of all races and genders) routinely act with excessive force and callous disregard toward Black people. But Black people’s witness of racial atrocity is never believed on its own merits. Instead, white people need to be able to pull up a chair and watch the lynchings take place over and over again, to DVR them, fast forward and rewind through them, to smother Black pain and outrage and fear in an avalanche of cold, “rational” analysis. Meanwhile, minds rarely change.

    The endless analysis never seems to lead to an honest place. An honest place would look like asking critical questions about the culture of policing. Here are a few of my many questions:

    Why do racists find policing to be a safe harbor for their offensive and dangerous views? And what about the culture of policing foments and encourages (and, perhaps, even rewards) anti-Black sentiment? It seems like the “good” cops are the exception. And even if they aren’t, how are any of us supposed to tell the difference? Why do we continue to believe that the individual (and even heroic) good acts of individual police officers in any way ameliorates a system whose wheels are oiled with the unjustly spilled blood of so many slain Black people?

    These are just some of the questions we need to ask.

    And there are some questions that don’t need to be asked. We don’t need to ask about Walter Scott’s “history of violence.” We don’t need to ask about his “past crimes.” We don’t need to ask “whether he was a good father.” In this moment, none of those things matter. He is not on trial here. He was a person. He was unarmed. He was shot while he retreated from police. The police officer lied. Walter’s Scott’s life and the unjust taking of that life by Michael Slager are the only facts that matter.

    As long as white people remain unconvinced that policing is a fundamentally anti-Black, racist enterprise in this country, the police will keep killing unarmed Black people. As long as the ridiculous argument that this is “just an isolated incident” proceeds unchecked, Black bodies will continue to pile up. Local juries might opt to throw the book at “individual” suspects, but individual solutions will not solve the epidemic of police murder. As of February 2015, the police were killing someone every eight hours. That is simply too much killing, and it far outpaces the police murder rate in every other developed country.

    In this cultural climate, it will take, it seems, an ocean of Black bodies to convince white people that structural racism is a problem. Therefore, I am not convinced in this moment that this video means anything. We watched Eric Garner die on video. We watched Tamir Rice die on video. The officers who killed both of them are free. Black people have no reason to trust that video evidence will lead to any significantly different outcome in the case of Michael Slager.

    To put it the way Dr. Treva Lindsey put it, “These extrajudicial killings are at the heart of U.S. democracy. At the core of our nation’s history is [Black people’s] annihilation and dehumanization- how do you ‘reform’ that? So save me the good cops argument- we are indicting the ENTIRE SYSTEM.”

    She’s right. The whole damn system is guilty as hell
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  • JusDre313
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    marc123 wrote: »
    Eternal props n respect to homie for filming the whole thing! And not turning ? n runnin away when shots were fired. Homie stayed tru n turned over the vid to the family! Respect.

    1000 ? yous to that cop. Jus cuz u aint in the mood to chase a ? in the middle of the day, dont give u the ? right to ? a ? . ? him!

    just had a white coworker come ask me about this story (guess he just heard about it) and I just told him the same as the bolded. he decided to ? that man because he was too lazy to chase him.. ? disgusting
  • dwade206
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    Just saw on Worldstar an unarmed Black man get mauled to death by a K9 as the cops watched. I guess the media can handle only one of these cases at a time. ? shame.
  • D. Morgan
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Just saw on Worldstar an unarmed Black man get mauled to death by a K9 as the cops watched. I guess the media can handle only one of these cases at a time. ? shame.

    @dwade206 post the video when you get a chance
  • JusDre313
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    D. Morgan wrote: »
    dwade206 wrote: »
    Just saw on Worldstar an unarmed Black man get mauled to death by a K9 as the cops watched. I guess the media can handle only one of these cases at a time. ? shame.

    @dwade206 post the video when you get a chance

    already a thread about it

    http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/529554/unarmed-black-man-punched-stomped-kicked-bitten-by-a-dog-before-dying-in-new-jersey-pig-custody/p1
  • D. Morgan
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    JusDre313 wrote: »
    D. Morgan wrote: »
    dwade206 wrote: »
    Just saw on Worldstar an unarmed Black man get mauled to death by a K9 as the cops watched. I guess the media can handle only one of these cases at a time. ? shame.

    @dwade206 post the video when you get a chance

    already a thread about it

    http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/529554/unarmed-black-man-punched-stomped-kicked-bitten-by-a-dog-before-dying-in-new-jersey-pig-custody/p1

    Good looking out! Been in that thread already and read up about that situation.
  • Crude_
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    No doubt in my mind that this type of thing happens often; anyone else notice how casual the officer was during this whole ordeal.

    It's a shame that some human beings view us in the same capacity of a wild animal or something that's less than human but that is the reality of what Blacks go through in America.

    Cops stay planting evidence on people, illegally harassing us, and even killing us.

    I actually think the officer should be executed if convicted, but I worry about getting the conviction because there will be some racist Whites out there that will still look for justification in this.

    This officer needs to be executed though I believe that would send a much greater message than anything else.

    It's troubling to say this but this is a literal picture perfect example of how a certain group of Whites in America view the value of Black lives.
  • S2J
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    As I said, no more marches and rallies. It's about money. As soon as it is confirmed where we can financially support the cause, that's one big step.

    If it wasnt for the flood of marches and rallies and national attention before, this situation would not be going like this

    The powers that be in Ferguson had to resign, lost jobs, Feds up their ass, etc

    Fear is a motivator. It MATTERS. It works.
  • detcatinva
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    I refrained from watching the video but finally saw it yesterday and it was sickening.

    the revolution will be televised
  • playmaker88
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    whats crazy people think this is some new phenomenon ...

    this ? been happening for at least a couple of centuries

    you can hardly fathom that
  • stringer bell
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    talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/allen-west-walter-scott-slager-milk-it
    Ex-Rep. Allen West On Walter Scott Killing: 'The Justice System Clearly Worked'


    In the aftermath of a white cop shooting unarmed black South Carolina man Walter Scott, former Rep. Allen West (R-GA) wrote that people of color should not embrace "the victim mentality" in this case since "the justice system clearly worked."

    In a blog post published Thursday morning, West said that he expected that "the media and black activists will try and milk this one."

    "It’s not necessary for anyone to try and claim this for political advantage," he wrote. "There is no need for the insidious false narrative of 'hands up don’t shoot” or rhetorical signage of 'black lives matter.'"

    Video released on Tuesday appeared to show North Charleston, S.C. Patrolman Michael Thomas Slager, who is white, shooting into Scott's back as he ran away after a purported struggle involving the officer's stun gun.

    Slager was fired from the police department and charged with murder.

    While West wrote that there was no excuse for Slager's use of force, he said that everyone watching the case should move on and refrain from "speeches about police re-training."

    "Let us take the time to offer our condolences to the family of Walter Scott and maybe what should be done is establish a scholarship fund for his four children to attain what is sorely needed in the black community: better education opportunities," he wrote.

    West dismissed concerns over racism in American police departments.

    "At this time we need to once again focus on correcting that which ails the black community: strong families and economic growth," he wrote.

    You knew it was only matter of time before the ? would come out of hiding.. To schuck & jive for racist whitey...
  • The Hue
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    corey holcomb 51/50 show

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfRL6dnjbXs

    start around 30 mins for them talking about the shooting. he goes in on stephen a at ~50 mins

    Hell yea! Ma brotha Corey hit it right on the nail with the elephant at the water hole analogy. Eye for an eye, when we start taking their kids lives I bet some ? start changing. Cops have nothing to fear when killing a black person, we got lucky that someone taped this, but imagine all the other murders that go untaped.

  • dwade206
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    S2J wrote: »
    dwade206 wrote: »
    As I said, no more marches and rallies. It's about money. As soon as it is confirmed where we can financially support the cause, that's one big step.

    If it wasnt for the flood of marches and rallies and national attention before, this situation would not be going like this

    The powers that be in Ferguson had to resign, lost jobs, Feds up their ass, etc

    Fear is a motivator. It MATTERS. It works.

    ...and no indictments or jail time issued.
  • dwade206
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    S2J wrote: »
    dwade206 wrote: »
    As I said, no more marches and rallies. It's about money. As soon as it is confirmed where we can financially support the cause, that's one big step.

    If it wasnt for the flood of marches and rallies and national attention before, this situation would not be going like this

    The powers that be in Ferguson had to resign, lost jobs, Feds up their ass, etc

    Fear is a motivator. It MATTERS. It works.

    ...and Blacks are still getting brutalized and killed by cops