The Truth Behind The Jay-Z & Jadakiss Beef
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Speak on it brother!raheemclassick wrote: »
Back then is when Styles got knotted up by Trick Trick" We all know A lot of these rappers don't like Jay, but you will never hear of any of them putting hands on him"raheemclassick wrote: »
back then they were .... All that hardest ? out ? . U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?
Shows how much people know, talkin bout nggas was scared of Styles P foh
What nggas dont know, Trick trick is under Jay z umbrella!!
That came to light when Jim Jones n co slapped up Ty Ty's brother and Neyo (lol), then next show they had in Detroit they got rushed on stage and shot at
"That sh*t is 100% behind that Louis Vuitton sh*t. That was the whole retaliation because Jim didn’t even expect that sh*t to come out of Detroit from that New York sh*t.
Jay and them got goons in Detroit, specifically Trick Trick who didn’t like that sh*t. N***** got on a conference call with the B.I.G. Homies and Jim got touched and it was simple as that. He just got lucky. The shooting occurred when one of Jimmy’s lame n***** tried to shoot. It wasn’t that they were trying to assassinate Jim. That was it"
Whole story:
http://www.thisis50.com/m/discussion?id=784568:Topic:12141483
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raheemclassick wrote: »
(What are you, ignit or something")water ur seeds wrote: »
Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...
He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...
The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..
You mean ignorant??? No Im not... -
Its not how you start, but how you end"
This where I ether that point.. Eminem the biggest rapper in 2000 was the opening act of the Up In Smoke Tour.
50 Cent was bigger than Jay-Z during Roc The Mic tour yet still shared headlining duties.
Em don't count because of white bias" Jay is no-doubt bigger then 50, dmx, anybody on double R.
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I know the proper spelling, but in this instance, it's meant to sound as it's spelled (And of course no disrespect intended)water ur seeds wrote: »raheemclassick wrote: »
(What are you, ignit or something")water ur seeds wrote: »
Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...
He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...
The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..
You mean ignorant??? No Im not...
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Lol @ ? still tryna act like jay wasn't that ? after vol 2 dropped and Dmx Ja Jada and everybody else was bigger then him.....that thought process even contradicts this video even more...Jada was just as big as jay but jay had the power to get him off songs to "steal his shine"....jay had a all new york/philly tour (hard knock life) and was the headliner??? And don't give me up in smoke tour becuz that was a west coast rapper tour em was just down with Dre so Dre put him on it.....look at ruff ryders/cash money tour that's more equal of artist on the same level both headlining....if you wanna say jay and x were equal star wise I guess maybe but to say x was bigger and Jada and jay were equal you ? need a time machine
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If you think DMX and jay-z wasn't on the same popularity level at one time you tripping foreal and if you think ruff ryders wasn't on the same level as roc a fella at some point you smoking ? foreal
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After the show it's the afterparty, then,
After the party it's the hotel lobby, then
After the Belve then it's probably Cris,
And after the original it's probably this -
There's a lot of revisionist history in this thread.
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Jay even came up with the phrase "X'd the game" for a reason, nobody was bigger than X from 98-2000
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Man roc a fella was so big Memphis bleek got gold plaques.... That should tell you all you need to know right there.... ? really tryna run with jay wasn't that big till Beyonce huh??? Y'all need to stop idgaf who buys yo album if you selling 5x mill and headlining one of the biggest hip hop tours EVER I'm sorry that puts you at the top of food chain...I mean damn the ? won his only Grammy for best hip hop album with vol 2...wtf do y'all ? call the biggest ? lol
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its....JOHN B wrote: »Jay even came up with the phrase "X'd the game" for a reason, nobody was bigger than X from 98-2000
There's more to that phrase than just that.
X'd your name out put Jigga on top
and dropped albums nonstop for ya ?
Jay-Z has never said that any rapper is superior to him in any way. He calls himself the ? M.C. -
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its....JOHN B wrote: »Jay even came up with the phrase "X'd the game" for a reason, nobody was bigger than X from 98-2000
There's more to that line than just that.
X'd your name out put Jigga on top
and dropped albums nonstop for ya ?
No, I'm pretty sure it was 50 he was talking about when he said he "X'd the game" -
I remember those years. The guy in that video summed it up pretty good.
From 97-00 Jadakiss was considered the new kid on the block and always brought his A-game to the studio. Whether it was posse jams, remixes or collabos, Jadakiss never dissapointed. He was on every mixtape in that era. And this was before the internet and file sharing. I can remember going to 125th st in Harlem and copping the Green Lantern mixtape with 2 Gunz Up. You know the song where he says he's "Top 5 Dead or Alive/ and that's just off one LP"
But after two solo albums Jadakiss's buzz died down. He didn't strike while the iron was hot. He never delivered that 5 mic classic. I'm not sure why he didn't blow up like Jay Z, DMX or 50 Cent. maybe it had something to do with that song New York , New York and 50s response (Piggybank).
In any case, Jadakiss was one of the hottest MCs in the late 90s/early 00s but being "hot" didn't translate into fame and/or celebrity status. Not on the level of Jay Z, Drake, Lil Wayne Nicki Minaj, etc.
But yeah, he was killing mixtapes from 99-01. -
This is ? chatty patty trash. I could say the same ? based on all the ? I've heard/seen/guessed. 10 minutes of my life I can't get back.
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raheemclassick wrote: »
Back then is when Styles got knotted up by Trick Trick" We all know A lot of these rappers don't like Jay, but you will never hear of any of them putting hands on him"raheemclassick wrote: »
back then they were .... All that hardest ? out ? . U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?
Shows how much people know, talkin bout nggas was scared of Styles P foh
What nggas dont know, Trick trick is under Jay z umbrella!!
That came to light when Jim Jones n co slapped up Ty Ty's brother and Neyo (lol), then next show they had in Detroit they got rushed on stage and shot at
"That sh*t is 100% behind that Louis Vuitton sh*t. That was the whole retaliation because Jim didn’t even expect that sh*t to come out of Detroit from that New York sh*t.
Jay and them got goons in Detroit, specifically Trick Trick who didn’t like that sh*t. N***** got on a conference call with the B.I.G. Homies and Jim got touched and it was simple as that. He just got lucky. The shooting occurred when one of Jimmy’s lame n***** tried to shoot. It wasn’t that they were trying to assassinate Jim. That was it"
Whole story:
http://www.thisis50.com/m/discussion?id=784568:Topic:12141483
Didn't know that -
trilladelic wrote: »
https://youtu.be/WuYWIA5TnU0
^^^i had no idea this ? existed. kell's trippin for not putting this version on tp2.com..
Dope -
I remember those years. The guy in that video summed it up pretty good.
From 97-00 Jadakiss was considered the new kid on the block and always brought his A-game to the studio. Whether it was posse jams, remixes or collabos, Jadakiss never dissapointed. He was on every mixtape in that era. And this was before the internet and file sharing. I can remember going to 125th st in Harlem and copping the Green Lantern mixtape with 2 Gunz Up. You know the song where he says he's "Top 5 Dead or Alive/ and that's just off one LP"
But after two solo albums Jadakiss's buzz died down. He didn't strike while the iron was hot. He never delivered that 5 mic classic. I'm not sure why he didn't blow up like Jay Z, DMX or 50 Cent. maybe it had something to do with that song New York , New York and 50s response (Piggybank).
In any case, Jadakiss was one of the hottest MCs in the late 90s/early 00s but being "hot" didn't translate into fame and/or celebrity status. Not on the level of Jay Z, Drake, Lil Wayne Nicki Minaj, etc.
But yeah, he was killing mixtapes from 99-01.
His buzz didn't die down after his 2nd album the song why is what blew him up more but taking a 5 year break from making an album didn't help either -
? ass hoe son of taboo hoe ? dis sir uncle tom ford jr skirt ass house ? . I have spend the 5months in rehab center and now i''m fully recover still i'm gonna punch this camel in the eye soon as i see him and i'm gonna break his jaw ? skirt ? .. Think rehab center gonna stop me from hate you jay? ? that i'm still dreamin bout the day i'm gonna meet you ?
? jay i hope he dies ? biggest snake in industry -
vageneral08 wrote: »I remember those years. The guy in that video summed it up pretty good.
From 97-00 Jadakiss was considered the new kid on the block and always brought his A-game to the studio. Whether it was posse jams, remixes or collabos, Jadakiss never dissapointed. He was on every mixtape in that era. And this was before the internet and file sharing. I can remember going to 125th st in Harlem and copping the Green Lantern mixtape with 2 Gunz Up. You know the song where he says he's "Top 5 Dead or Alive/ and that's just off one LP"
But after two solo albums Jadakiss's buzz died down. He didn't strike while the iron was hot. He never delivered that 5 mic classic. I'm not sure why he didn't blow up like Jay Z, DMX or 50 Cent. maybe it had something to do with that song New York , New York and 50s response (Piggybank).
In any case, Jadakiss was one of the hottest MCs in the late 90s/early 00s but being "hot" didn't translate into fame and/or celebrity status. Not on the level of Jay Z, Drake, Lil Wayne Nicki Minaj, etc.
But yeah, he was killing mixtapes from 99-01.
His buzz didn't die down after his 2nd album the song why is what blew him up more but taking a 5 year break from making an album didn't help either
Yeah I agree "Time's Up" Featuring Nate Dogg and "U Make Me Wanna" Featuring Mariah Carey were both bigger than anything on his first album too. -
water ur seeds wrote: »water ur seeds wrote: »Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...
Also Jada could ? a street track with whoever and then ? a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.
50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efee9xon3fU&spfreload=10
Again, Jada was not massive. He had a healthy buzz but that was it and even during that time Jay was a superstar. The Roc movement would've been nothing without him. Jay was defeated with ether and was big enough to come out right after with Best of Both Worlds and Blueprint 2 soon after to collect more plaques keeping his credibility in Hip Hop in tact.
Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...
He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...
The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..
Wow...No need to argue with this guy just as long as everyone knows he is absolutely incorrect. Please tell me nggas know he is absolutely incorrect
Not really. DMX was bigger than Jay at one point especially at the start of DMX career. Jay didn't become an international superstar till Blueprint/BP 2 really around time he got with Beyonce.
As far movements.. Ruff Ryders was as big as Rocafella but did not as long. But they never overlapped. By the time Ruff Ryders momentum died down Rocafella picked up steam.
As for Dblock on the mixtape they were bigger not on mainstream level.
No. Just, no. This is just not chronologically correct
For one,all this is post Vol 2, post Hard Knock Life (back to this in a sec), post Big Pimpin
No. They were not Jay z peer. Jay z was the biggest star in rap after vol 2, PERIOD
Speaking of Hard Knock Life: um, question, how can a ngga be bigger than Jay when he's an UNDERCARD on that man's tour: THE HARD KNOCK LIFE TOUR
Ya know, the movie Backstage n all??
Questin, how was Jada as big as Jay when DMX himself was under Jay's tour!?!? Enough!
^ This man is absolutely correct.
1)I went to The Hard Knock Tour, how was dmx bigger, when Jay was the headliner? It makes no sense to be on a tour when the headliner is less popular than u.
2) Jay became a household name based on that single Hard Knock Life
Mad people who weren't even Rap fans like that single Hard Knock Life
3)When dmx made that feat of 2 number one albums in one year, he was on the hard knock life tour ( once again they used this fact to help promote the tour ).....if dmx was bigger, why didn't he leave the tour, its been done b4....... Eg:i believe bob Marley left a tour when he became bigger than the headliner who was Sly & The family stone.
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water ur seeds wrote: »water ur seeds wrote: »Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...
Also Jada could ? a street track with whoever and then ? a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.
50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efee9xon3fU&spfreload=10
Again, Jada was not massive. He had a healthy buzz but that was it and even during that time Jay was a superstar. The Roc movement would've been nothing without him. Jay was defeated with ether and was big enough to come out right after with Best of Both Worlds and Blueprint 2 soon after to collect more plaques keeping his credibility in Hip Hop in tact.
Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...
He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...
The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..
Wow...No need to argue with this guy just as long as everyone knows he is absolutely incorrect. Please tell me nggas know he is absolutely incorrect
Not really. DMX was bigger than Jay at one point especially at the start of DMX career. Jay didn't become an international superstar till Blueprint/BP 2 really around time he got with Beyonce.
As far movements.. Ruff Ryders was as big as Rocafella but did not as long. But they never overlapped. By the time Ruff Ryders momentum died down Rocafella picked up steam.
As for Dblock on the mixtape they were bigger not on mainstream level.
No. Just, no. This is just not chronologically correct
For one,all this is post Vol 2, post Hard Knock Life (back to this in a sec), post Big Pimpin
No. They were not Jay z peer. Jay z was the biggest star in rap after vol 2, PERIOD
Speaking of Hard Knock Life: um, question, how can a ngga be bigger than Jay when he's an UNDERCARD on that man's tour: THE HARD KNOCK LIFE TOUR
Ya know, the movie Backstage n all??
Questin, how was Jada as big as Jay when DMX himself was under Jay's tour!?!? Enough!
Im not talking Jada at all. Dmx 1998-2001 was bigger than Jay-Z on the mainstream level, his sales and being in movies prove this.
The ruff ryders movement was as big as Rocefella it was just not as long. It also had a big tour with Cash Money and its acts were selling and had success (Eve, Dragon, The Lox, Vol. 1 Compilation).
By the time other acts from Rocafella popped off Ruff Ryders were pretty much done.
You answered your own question.. it was Jay-Z tour.
This where I ether that point.. Eminem the biggest rapper in 2000 was the opening act of the Up In Smoke Tour.
50 Cent was bigger than Jay-Z during Roc The Mic tour yet still shared headlining duties.
? Eminem went on literally before Dre and Snoop. Warren G and Ice Cube were the opening acts for that tour -
Jay-Z had a track on ROD Vol. 1 with no features but he's not bigger than these other dudes?
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Jay-Z headlining a tour that DMX was on is more of a testament to Jay-Z the business man than Jay-Z the star, foh acting like that's the end all be all to the argument, DMX movies>>Jay Z headlining his own tour
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It's dark and hell is hot, flesh of my flesh, and then there was X vs Vol 2, Vol 3 and Dynasty, from 98 to 2000 who was selling more records?
