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Joe Cole could of been GREAT, he was dope but injuries and Mourinho happened lol

He played his best football under Jose mourinho. Bear in mind, those Chelsea squad was solid.
And he got medals, and rep England solidly. Wilshire on the other hand, is a arsenal legend.

So did Mata lol But yeah he got young player of the year, but Jose didn't fancy him *pause* and got rid of him, I remember he he was hyped as 'the new Pele' as a youth player...

WTF are u taking about???? Fancy? Got rid of him???? 2004–05 and 2005–06 were 2 of his best seasons. He was on the PFA team of the year in 2005–06. Those were Mourinho's first 2 years. He missed most of 2006–07 bcos of a Stress Fracture. Mourinho was fired in 2007–08. So unless Mourinho has magical powers, i can't see how Mourinho ruined his career all the way from Italy.

There are tons of legit criticisms of Mourinho, he is not perfect. Just bcos its easy to blame Mourinho for things, does not mean u should make ? up.

No we had this discussion before... 2004 Cole couldnt even get in the side!!! 'Joe can be a regular but he has to improve when the team needs him to be part of a defensive organisation.' - Mourinho

Jose got rid of him due to his injuries is one thing, but more so is Jose likes(ed) disciplined players staying in their roles, Joe Cole liked to roam and be a free player, Jose is a stickler (more so in his first spell) for players staying in their respective positions, tracking back to do their bit defending and not letting players express themselves attacking wise, Joe Cole was the antisepsis for a player needing to be let off the leash and do his thing, like Gazza, Bale and Ronaldo... He didnt suit what Jose wanted/had going so got rid off him, that coupled with injuries... The year after Jose left Cole got player of the year, when he had more free rein...

Edit: I say got rid (didnt fancy)... Some would say 'ruin' him...

Joe Cole: Aston Villa man on Mourinho, his career and robots

Joe Cole says football will produce more and more "robots" unless players are reminded that the game is about a "round ball".
The former England international has enjoyed enormous success in his career, winning three Premier League titles and three FA Cups, as well as 56 caps for his country.
Hailed as the hottest prospect in British football in the 1990s and likened to Paul Gascoigne, Cole was known for his silky skills and eye for goal.
Now, as he prepares to celebrate his 33rd birthday on Saturday, he is urging clubs and players not to "forget" what football is really about.
"You get a lot of people coming into the game - sport psychologists, etc - but, at the end of the day, it's a round ball," he said. "That won't change.
"You get all this other stuff which can help one or two per cent, but don't forget what it is to play football.
"A manager once said to me: 'If you want to be good at playing the piano, you don't run round it or pick it up, you play it.' That's stuck with me."
In a wide-ranging interview with BBC Radio 5 live's Pat Murphy, Cole talked about many aspects of his career, revealing:
His dad did not know he was a talented youngster
He did not start playing for a team until he was 10
He thinks Chelsea are "building something special"
And he says he is "greedy" for more success before he retires
Cole is also desperate to make his first start for Aston Villa, having struggled with injury since joining the club back in the summer.
He hopes that comes on Saturday, when he faces the club that made him famous, West Ham.
The Hammers are currently fifth in the Premier League table, while Villa have lost their last six games and sit only one point above the relegation zone.
"We need to stop the rot, we need to get something," said Cole. "It's just a case of getting something, even if we have to shut up shop or be ugly."
Joe Cole factfile
Date of birth: 08/11/1981
Clubs: West Ham, Chelsea, Liverpool, Lille, West Ham and Aston Villa
Appearances: 368
Goals: 45
Premier League titles: 3
England caps: 56
England goals: 10
Despite a difficult couple of seasons, during which injuries have limited his appearances, Cole says he remains passionate about the game.
"I've had a difficult few years, with little niggly injuries at the wrong time, but I love the game," he said. "What's better than to play football?"
He also feels he still has a lot to offer.
"I just want a little run of games to show that, but, yeah, I've got no complaints with the career I've had," he said.
"I've been very lucky to live all my dreams as a player, but there's still a lot I want to achieve in the game and I feel I'm at the right club."
Cole has been a professional football for almost 16 years, having made his West Ham debut at 17.
Joe Cole in Chelsea action
Cole won three Premier League titles during his time with Chelsea
"I'm grateful for everything I've had in my career, but I still want more, because we're all greedy, aren't we?" he added. "We all want to do more.
"I'd love to win a trophy with Villa, play another 100 games, because it's a great game."
Villa's focus is on avoiding sinking into the bottom three at the moment rather than trophies, but Cole is used to winning silverware, having claimed eight domestic trophies with Chelsea.
Cole was already something of a star by the time he joined the Blues in 2003.
He had scored seven goals for England in a 8-1 win over Spain in a youth international, was reportedly the subject of a £10m bid from Manchester United at the age 16 and had made more than 120 appearances for West Ham.
But he thinks Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho made him a better player.
"I'm well aware he got the best out of me," said Cole. "Looking back, you admire what he did for me as a player. All of his players love playing for him. I loved playing for him. And I've not met a player who doesn't."
Cole thinks Chelsea are on the verge of another golden era with Mourinho back in charge.
The Blues missed out on silverware last season but are currently top of the Premier League, having dropped only four points from their opening 10 games this term.
Joe Cole scores for England against Sweden in the 2006 World Cup
One of Cole's 10 international goals was an outstanding volley against Sweden at the 2006 World Cup
They also top their Champions League qualifying group and remain unbeaten in all competitions, having made it to the quarter-finals of the League Cup.
"Chelsea could go and become one of the great sides," said Cole, who left Stamford Bridge in 2010. "They are building something special."
Though he has gone on to have a successful career, Cole did not join a team until the age of 10 and his talent was not apparent to his own father.
"My dad isn't a football man, so he didn't even know I could play the game," says Cole.
"I didn't play for a team, let alone a professional team, until I was 10 and didn't get into a professional club until I was 11.
"Nowadays, you see the kids - five and six years of age - with all the gear on. They've got all the boots, the cones are out, lovely shiny ? and all the different goals.
"It's a great system, but you learn [the game] yourself with the ball, otherwise you're just going to produce robots."


Dude credit mourinho.

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we should sign Tevez to a 2 yr deal

How coentrao feels about man u tevez likely views arsenal

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Tevez going back to Argentina to finish his football career

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Figo wrote: »

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toheeb27 wrote: »

water ur seeds wrote: »

Figo wrote: »

water ur seeds wrote: »

Joe Cole could of been GREAT, he was dope but injuries and Mourinho happened lol

He played his best football under Jose mourinho. Bear in mind, those Chelsea squad was solid.
And he got medals, and rep England solidly. Wilshire on the other hand, is a arsenal legend.

So did Mata lol But yeah he got young player of the year, but Jose didn't fancy him *pause* and got rid of him, I remember he he was hyped as 'the new Pele' as a youth player...

WTF are u taking about???? Fancy? Got rid of him???? 2004–05 and 2005–06 were 2 of his best seasons. He was on the PFA team of the year in 2005–06. Those were Mourinho's first 2 years. He missed most of 2006–07 bcos of a Stress Fracture. Mourinho was fired in 2007–08. So unless Mourinho has magical powers, i can't see how Mourinho ruined his career all the way from Italy.

There are tons of legit criticisms of Mourinho, he is not perfect. Just bcos its easy to blame Mourinho for things, does not mean u should make ? up.

No we had this discussion before... 2004 Cole couldnt even get in the side!!! 'Joe can be a regular but he has to improve when the team needs him to be part of a defensive organisation.' - Mourinho

Jose got rid of him due to his injuries is one thing, but more so is Jose likes(ed) disciplined players staying in their roles, Joe Cole liked to roam and be a free player, Jose is a stickler (more so in his first spell) for players staying in their respective positions, tracking back to do their bit defending and not letting players express themselves attacking wise, Joe Cole was the antisepsis for a player needing to be let off the leash and do his thing, like Gazza, Bale and Ronaldo... He didnt suit what Jose wanted/had going so got rid off him, that coupled with injuries... The year after Jose left Cole got player of the year, when he had more free rein...

Edit: I say got rid (didnt fancy)... Some would say 'ruin' him...

Joe Cole: Aston Villa man on Mourinho, his career and robots

Joe Cole says football will produce more and more "robots" unless players are reminded that the game is about a "round ball".
The former England international has enjoyed enormous success in his career, winning three Premier League titles and three FA Cups, as well as 56 caps for his country.
Hailed as the hottest prospect in British football in the 1990s and likened to Paul Gascoigne, Cole was known for his silky skills and eye for goal.
Now, as he prepares to celebrate his 33rd birthday on Saturday, he is urging clubs and players not to "forget" what football is really about.
"You get a lot of people coming into the game - sport psychologists, etc - but, at the end of the day, it's a round ball," he said. "That won't change.
"You get all this other stuff which can help one or two per cent, but don't forget what it is to play football.
"A manager once said to me: 'If you want to be good at playing the piano, you don't run round it or pick it up, you play it.' That's stuck with me."
In a wide-ranging interview with BBC Radio 5 live's Pat Murphy, Cole talked about many aspects of his career, revealing:
His dad did not know he was a talented youngster
He did not start playing for a team until he was 10
He thinks Chelsea are "building something special"
And he says he is "greedy" for more success before he retires
Cole is also desperate to make his first start for Aston Villa, having struggled with injury since joining the club back in the summer.
He hopes that comes on Saturday, when he faces the club that made him famous, West Ham.
The Hammers are currently fifth in the Premier League table, while Villa have lost their last six games and sit only one point above the relegation zone.
"We need to stop the rot, we need to get something," said Cole. "It's just a case of getting something, even if we have to shut up shop or be ugly."
Joe Cole factfile
Date of birth: 08/11/1981
Clubs: West Ham, Chelsea, Liverpool, Lille, West Ham and Aston Villa
Appearances: 368
Goals: 45
Premier League titles: 3
England caps: 56
England goals: 10
Despite a difficult couple of seasons, during which injuries have limited his appearances, Cole says he remains passionate about the game.
"I've had a difficult few years, with little niggly injuries at the wrong time, but I love the game," he said. "What's better than to play football?"
He also feels he still has a lot to offer.
"I just want a little run of games to show that, but, yeah, I've got no complaints with the career I've had," he said.
"I've been very lucky to live all my dreams as a player, but there's still a lot I want to achieve in the game and I feel I'm at the right club."
Cole has been a professional football for almost 16 years, having made his West Ham debut at 17.
Joe Cole in Chelsea action
Cole won three Premier League titles during his time with Chelsea
"I'm grateful for everything I've had in my career, but I still want more, because we're all greedy, aren't we?" he added. "We all want to do more.
"I'd love to win a trophy with Villa, play another 100 games, because it's a great game."
Villa's focus is on avoiding sinking into the bottom three at the moment rather than trophies, but Cole is used to winning silverware, having claimed eight domestic trophies with Chelsea.
Cole was already something of a star by the time he joined the Blues in 2003.
He had scored seven goals for England in a 8-1 win over Spain in a youth international, was reportedly the subject of a £10m bid from Manchester United at the age 16 and had made more than 120 appearances for West Ham.
But he thinks Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho made him a better player.
"I'm well aware he got the best out of me," said Cole. "Looking back, you admire what he did for me as a player. All of his players love playing for him. I loved playing for him. And I've not met a player who doesn't."
Cole thinks Chelsea are on the verge of another golden era with Mourinho back in charge.
The Blues missed out on silverware last season but are currently top of the Premier League, having dropped only four points from their opening 10 games this term.
Joe Cole scores for England against Sweden in the 2006 World Cup
One of Cole's 10 international goals was an outstanding volley against Sweden at the 2006 World Cup
They also top their Champions League qualifying group and remain unbeaten in all competitions, having made it to the quarter-finals of the League Cup.
"Chelsea could go and become one of the great sides," said Cole, who left Stamford Bridge in 2010. "They are building something special."
Though he has gone on to have a successful career, Cole did not join a team until the age of 10 and his talent was not apparent to his own father.
"My dad isn't a football man, so he didn't even know I could play the game," says Cole.
"I didn't play for a team, let alone a professional team, until I was 10 and didn't get into a professional club until I was 11.
"Nowadays, you see the kids - five and six years of age - with all the gear on. They've got all the boots, the cones are out, lovely shiny ? and all the different goals.
"It's a great system, but you learn [the game] yourself with the ball, otherwise you're just going to produce robots."


Dude credit mourinho.

As I said above... Same Jose didnt feel the same way about Joe Cole lol

water ur seeds wrote: »

Figo wrote: »

water ur seeds wrote: »

Figo wrote: »

water ur seeds wrote: »

toheeb27 wrote: »

water ur seeds wrote: »

Figo wrote: »

water ur seeds wrote: »

Joe Cole could of been GREAT, he was dope but injuries and Mourinho happened lol

He played his best football under Jose mourinho. Bear in mind, those Chelsea squad was solid.
And he got medals, and rep England solidly. Wilshire on the other hand, is a arsenal legend.

So did Mata lol But yeah he got young player of the year, but Jose didn't fancy him *pause* and got rid of him, I remember he he was hyped as 'the new Pele' as a youth player...

WTF are u taking about???? Fancy? Got rid of him???? 2004–05 and 2005–06 were 2 of his best seasons. He was on the PFA team of the year in 2005–06. Those were Mourinho's first 2 years. He missed most of 2006–07 bcos of a Stress Fracture. Mourinho was fired in 2007–08. So unless Mourinho has magical powers, i can't see how Mourinho ruined his career all the way from Italy.

There are tons of legit criticisms of Mourinho, he is not perfect. Just bcos its easy to blame Mourinho for things, does not mean u should make ? up.

No we had this discussion before... 2004 Cole couldnt even get in the side!!! 'Joe can be a regular but he has to improve when the team needs him to be part of a defensive organisation.' - Mourinho

Jose got rid of him due to his injuries is one thing, but more so is Jose likes(ed) disciplined players staying in their roles, Joe Cole liked to roam and be a free player, Jose is a stickler (more so in his first spell) for players staying in their respective positions, tracking back to do their bit defending and not letting players express themselves attacking wise, Joe Cole was the antisepsis for a player needing to be let off the leash and do his thing, like Gazza, Bale and Ronaldo... He didnt suit what Jose wanted/had going so got rid off him, that coupled with injuries... The year after Jose left Cole got player of the year, when he had more free rein...

Edit: I say got rid (didnt fancy)... Some would say 'ruin' him...

Dude credit mourinho.

As I said above... Same Jose didnt feel the same way about Joe Cole lol

Only professional trophy cole won was under jose mourinho management.
but at the end of day, wilshire can't lace up cole injured foot.

What has him winning a trophy got to do??? Joe Cole had the potential to be one of the best England players in the last 25years... Never materialised, him and Willshere could have alot in common...