Pun was a better mc then Pac an B.I.G.

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  • The Recipe
    The Recipe Members Posts: 10,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Its alot of ? better lyrically than Pac and Ye but couldnt make an album or songs on the level of most of theirs. The reason they going down as goats is beacause their artistry they have more attributes and can do great things with an instrumental and rhymes. Im in the 5% that feels Biggie is overrated but Pun aint ? with biggie either.
  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    . Sound like he was about to die mid-verse and ? .
    Sadly he was about to die

  • blatalian
    blatalian Members Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lyrically Pun better than most ? favorite MC's...that's just tha hard cold truth...Peace
  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    CLOSE THREAD....

    Big Pun Super Lyrical: https://youtu.be/9pPim_ocJxk
  • Antwuan89
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    lyrically it's a toss up with him and Biggie, he's obviously way better lyrically than Tupac but Big Pun never impacted the game like Biggie & Tupac did.

    Big Pun at best is top 20 all time.

    Big Pun vs Big L thats more of a better comparison for Big Pun.
  • nickel-us P
    nickel-us P Members Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fast Money>> Gimme the loot
  • Sage Wonder
    Sage Wonder Members Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pun bar for bar was more technical than biggie. He was the better lyricist. Doesn't make him the better rapper though.
  • za'kiss
    za'kiss Members Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "Flawless victory, ? can't do ? to me
    Physically, lyrically, hypothetically, realistically"

    Big Pun is one of the great lyricists. But he was not as complete as Biggie, and Biggie isn't even one of my favorites. They come out close to even lyrically, but Big has got him on breath control, flow, voice, and just about everything else. Same for 'Pac.
  • gemini86
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    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Nah homie if he would of lived then he could of out done biggie but can nobody touch 2pac no if ands or maybes about it 2pac is goat rapper no competition


    I can respect that opinion as pac in my top 5...... but .... still..... he in there for a different reason

    so u can lose this logic with pun but with eminem we cant? oh ok
  • nickel-us P
    nickel-us P Members Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dream shatterer>> Kick in the door
  • SheerExcellence
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    Big pun was nice
    Big pun didn't have the emotional content, versatility, or depth to be put over biggie or pac tho, imo
    Hip hop heads love fast rappers but rhyming diddily with little italy and Sicily doesn't make you an all time great
  • scrapper1
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    I mean no disrespect to the late lyricist nor the Puerto Rican community that holds him on such a high pedestal... but.... he is not in the same category as Jay,Nas, Pac, etc. He is a good lyricist but I just don't place him in that class. I think Big L is a better MC than Pun, to be honest.. Pusha T as well.
  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So all you saying that Pun just rapped fast and didn't say ? are just to slow and retarted to catch the lyrics huh?

    Ok hopefully you can read. Tell me who else rap like this....


    [Chorus]

    [Big Punisher]
    Cannibalism is livin in my metabolism
    Givin em spasms and aneurisms at baby baptisms
    That's all my thugs thinkin bout, drinkin your blood
    Boriquans love flooded rugs ? and bloated mugs
    Leavin the reverand decap' and severn when I'm beheadin
    The Armageddeon is lettin demons slip into Heaven
    Goin back to spiritual ritual times
    What you gon' find - shiftings of Satan in critical bind
    Nevermind, I do that often, I've risen often
    Bust out my coffin, I'm a livin abortion
    Battled the Devil and deaded his demons
    Trained other beings to be in his different levels of Hell, 
    still screamin
    Seein bodies ? and babies bloated corroded
    Know the Chinese exploded
    Know they run with Gotti who know it (check it)
    I never run I never ran, the fattest ? man
    I roll with Cuban makin junk to jams
    That's all I'm knowin and I'm never kneed
    All on your soul I feed, I'm lettin punk ? bleed
    ? with me, better hide yo' seed
    Better think twice, before you ride on me
    Cause I'ma lift your weight, 
    then I'm droppin you in the incinerator
    Then I'm hittin the hospital and poppin two in the incubator
    That's how we do it pana, ? , no more goo-goo ga-ga
    Oh I'm sorry pa-pa, was you the da-da?

    [Chorus 2X]



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    Copyright: Deshawn Barzey, Jelly'S Jams LLC 

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  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tony...Montana
    You ain't promised manana in the rotten manzana
    C'mon-pana we need more rhymers
    feel the marijuana snake bite anaconda
    A man of honour wouldn't wanna try to match my persona
    Sometimes rhymin' I blow my own mind like Nirvana
    Comma, and go the whole nine like Madonna
    Go try to find another rhymer with my kinda gramma

    [CHORUS] -- When you awaken, your manhood'll be taken
    Fakin' like you Satan when I'm the rhymin' abomination[2x]

    I'm pure adrenaline, uncut, straight to your gut, medicine
    Raw cure for pain I coat your brain like polyurathane
    Simple and plain, I'll explain it in layman terms
    If you came to learn how to make fire, I'm-a make it burn!
    Higher and hotter than lava this scholar
    is 'bout just as smart as MacGyver
    To put honor inside the heart of a lion
    revolved in a life of crime (crime!)
    ? it I like the shine (shine!), Up in the white and lime (lime!) 
    Comes with the pipe design
    Plushed out! (No doubt!) Both pockets about to bust out
    If you not in it for the spinach, GET THE ? OUT!
    Take a hike, we can even battle to make it right
    Go 'head lace the mic, you finished? Say good night...
    Head to head in the street, I'll leave you dead in your feet
    Settlin' beef, I'll even let you rhyme to the Benjamin beat
    But it won't matter, you dreams still gon' shatter
    It's a long ladder to climb and mine is on the stagger
    So get outta town, 'fore I hit you
    with the loudest sound you ever heard
    Desert bird player you outta bounds

    [CHORUS (3x)]

    You need the Pun to dis you if your whole steez is unofficial
    I'll come and get you and let the desert eez tounge kiss you
    With one pistol and two clips, I'll make your crew do flips
    Like acrobatics, I'm charismatic, my gat is magic
    It makes rappers disappear, whipser in your ear
    Crystal clear, come here, let me kiss your tears
    Everything you fear is here, you ain't got to search further
    The first murder's the worst now I thirst further for reverse birth
    Every verse hurts, every curse word's already more offending 
    Than Eddie Murph's worst
    I thirst for blood like a vampire, any man claimin' his game's tighter
    IS A ? DAMN LIAR!
    I set 'em on fire, retire your train of thought
    Drain a quart of blood out your brain and leave you insane in the dark
    The king of New York! Lays his crown in the Boogie Down
    And sprays the town, with a Mac hoodied down
    I'm no joke! (Yuh!!) I soak your face with a sweeper
    Dying disgrace, I'll face your death through the speaker

    [CHORUS (4x) to fade out]

  • nujerz84
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    scrapper1 wrote: »
    I mean no disrespect to the late lyricist nor the Puerto Rican community that holds him on such a high pedestal... but.... he is not in the same category as Jay,Nas, Pac, etc. He is a good lyricist but I just don't place him in that class. I think Big L is a better MC than Pun,to be honest.. Pusha T as well.

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  • supergangster
    supergangster Members Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Big pun is better than Pac and jay nas but not nas prodigy and inspectah deck
  • BobOblah
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    blatalian wrote: »
    Lyrically Pun better than most ? favorite MC's...that's just tha hard cold truth...Peace

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    Lol this belongs in the rare hip hop pics thread. I never seen this
  • PapaDoc223
    PapaDoc223 Members Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pun was lyrical its just he didnt impact hip hop like Pac and Biggie. People love Pac for many reasons. You know how many Pac stans there is? Look at any youtube video with a Pac song. Say ? 2pac anywhere and see the look u get. He changed the game with the whole tattoo rah rah hard core gangsta ? . He also was a product of the black panthers so he made pro black music.

    Biggie with Diddy changed east coast hip hop. Hip hop in NYC especially went from the Bootcamp Click baggy jeans, army fatigues clothes with tims to shiny suits and flossing.
    What is Big Pun's legacy or impact in hip hop? Fat Joe and DJ Khaled? Lol
  • nycest_1
    nycest_1 Members Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Lyrically/ Pun >>>>>>>>>
    Flow / Pun >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Breath control /Pun ( and he was 600 pounds)>>>>>>>>
    Pac and Big had a better voice. That's the only category they beat him in.

    Prove me wrong ... Pls. .


    BTW pac and big are both in my top 10 doa so I'm not a hater.

    Big Pun, Fat Joe - Twinz (Deep Cover 98): https://youtu.be/AiwvPmRTv6M


    Epic Verses of Big Pun (with lyrics): https://youtu.be/gI_UdYqaF_E


    Big Pun - Brave In The Heart: https://youtu.be/KZJ-TXpBKCU


    Big Pun - You Ain't A Killer (With Lyrics!): https://youtu.be/7cs5J3CkRao
    lol not to sound old young'n but do you even know what the ? mc means and why rappers put that in their names?
    an mc has stage presence and controlled parties and kept parties live. lol
    puns fat ass was doing none of those things lol
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 Members Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nycest_1 wrote: »
    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Lyrically/ Pun >>>>>>>>>
    Flow / Pun >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Breath control /Pun ( and he was 600 pounds)>>>>>>>>
    Pac and Big had a better voice. That's the only category they beat him in.

    Prove me wrong ... Pls. .


    BTW pac and big are both in my top 10 doa so I'm not a hater.

    Big Pun, Fat Joe - Twinz (Deep Cover 98): https://youtu.be/AiwvPmRTv6M


    Epic Verses of Big Pun (with lyrics): https://youtu.be/gI_UdYqaF_E


    Big Pun - Brave In The Heart: https://youtu.be/KZJ-TXpBKCU


    Big Pun - You Ain't A Killer (With Lyrics!): https://youtu.be/7cs5J3CkRao
    lol not to sound old young'n but do you even know what the ? mc means and why rappers put that in their names?
    an mc has stage presence and controlled parties and kept parties live. lol
    puns fat ass was doing none of those things lol

    smfh one cases when posters clearly have no clue what the ? they talking about.


    http://youtu.be/_2XLrR-bzkk
  • thephantasm
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    There is the conspiracy.

    Nothing that has EVER come out can verbally compare to capitol punishment.

    Thats when the syreets started pretending.
  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nycest_1 wrote: »
    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Lyrically/ Pun >>>>>>>>>
    Flow / Pun >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Breath control /Pun ( and he was 600 pounds)>>>>>>>>
    Pac and Big had a better voice. That's the only category they beat him in.

    Prove me wrong ... Pls. .


    BTW pac and big are both in my top 10 doa so I'm not a hater.

    Big Pun, Fat Joe - Twinz (Deep Cover 98): https://youtu.be/AiwvPmRTv6M


    Epic Verses of Big Pun (with lyrics): https://youtu.be/gI_UdYqaF_E


    Big Pun - Brave In The Heart: https://youtu.be/KZJ-TXpBKCU


    Big Pun - You Ain't A Killer (With Lyrics!): https://youtu.be/7cs5J3CkRao
    lol not to sound old young'n but do you even know what the ? mc means and why rappers put that in their names?
    an mc has stage presence and controlled parties and kept parties live. lol
    puns fat ass was doing none of those things lol



    LOL.... Ok Fam. You must be old as ? if you don't think pun was a mc.... I was in highschool when puns first album came out, now I'm 33... so if you talking about the 80s Whodini and mc Maestro ? hammer dancing and cooning for the labels as the definition of a mc......then uh ...ok. @nycest_1
  • nycest_1
    nycest_1 Members Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    macadonwoo wrote: »
    nycest_1 wrote: »
    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Lyrically/ Pun >>>>>>>>>
    Flow / Pun >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Breath control /Pun ( and he was 600 pounds)>>>>>>>>
    Pac and Big had a better voice. That's the only category they beat him in.

    Prove me wrong ... Pls. .


    BTW pac and big are both in my top 10 doa so I'm not a hater.

    Big Pun, Fat Joe - Twinz (Deep Cover 98): https://youtu.be/AiwvPmRTv6M


    Epic Verses of Big Pun (with lyrics): https://youtu.be/gI_UdYqaF_E


    Big Pun - Brave In The Heart: https://youtu.be/KZJ-TXpBKCU


    Big Pun - You Ain't A Killer (With Lyrics!): https://youtu.be/7cs5J3CkRao
    lol not to sound old young'n but do you even know what the ? mc means and why rappers put that in their names?
    an mc has stage presence and controlled parties and kept parties live. lol
    puns fat ass was doing none of those things lol



    LOL.... Ok Fam. You must be old as ? if you don't think pun was a mc.... I was in highschool when puns first album came out, now I'm 33... so if you talking about the 80s Whodini and mc Maestro ? hammer dancing and cooning for the labels as the definition of a mc......then uh ...ok. @nycest_1
    actually smart ass an mc in the traditional sense is a master of ceremony, the ? guy who basically narrated the party.
    stage presence played a big part.
    extract his dead ? from your tonsils and pay attention to the wording.
    pun was a great lyricist, thats the ? word you were looking for.
    he is not an mc.
    ? young ? like you got the wording ? up and seem to think that because he was lyrically ill, the ? was an mc.
    i'm 35 and i know this from growing up in the bronx.
    if you 33 and had no idea what an mc was i can't help you.

  • GunTown
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    U can't debate with Nujerz when it comes to rappity rappity rappin ass rappin. U wasting your time nycest 1

    'i do this for the hip the hop the hip the hop the robotic magnatic fanatic/finesee to deathness wickedness/picking them snitching is sinning/glorious tourist'

    LMAOO



    When it comes to rappity rap, back back rap, dictionary rap he is as fanatical as Isis

    He likes what he likes nothing wrong with that he entitled to his own taste but he just incredibly stannish and fanatical about rappity rap and catches feeling just because most find the style he likes wack