Dr.Umar Johnson Controversy: Can your personal life distort your message?
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Inglewood_B wrote: »The real problem these people have is the backtracking lying and covering up.
Shoulda just said "I love bad ? that's my ? problem. And yeah I like to ? , I got a ? problem."
that's all i'm saying. the same way he made that statement saying he was celibate. he could made another statement saying he's no longer celibate, "it's a challenge you sistas are the truth".
case closed, it aint that hard.
one lie lead to another then another. now he probably tainted his movement, that he worked so hard for in the first place.
when a person put themselves in a position to be a leader, they cant make moves like non leaders. especially when their blk, fighting against wht supremacy, doing good.
they gotta b on they p's and q's -
Inglewood_B wrote: »The real problem these people have is the backtracking lying and covering up.
Shoulda just said "I love bad ? that's my ? problem. And yeah I like to ? , I got a ? problem."
that's all i'm saying. or the same way he made that statement saying he was celibate, he could made a statement that he's no longer celibate, it's a challenge "you sistas are the truth".
case close it aint that hard.
one lie lead to another and another. now he tainted his movement that he worked so hard for in the first place.
People make mistakes, fuckit. We've all done a little silly ? from time to time. I just overdrew my Bank Account the other day buyin Seafood and didn't even realize it. Now thanks to the penalties and the cost of the food I owe the bank $38.
It's not the worst thing in the world but it's ? silly. And he's no Rozay either so we shouldn't lump all of that ? together -
No one likes a hypocrite, so yea he has to deal with that.
But you cant ? the message, i still support the brother. -
Inglewood_B wrote: »The real problem these people have is the backtracking lying and covering up.
Shoulda just said "I love bad ? that's my ? problem. And yeah I like to ? , I got a ? problem."
that's all i'm saying. or the same way he made that statement saying he was celibate, he could made a statement that he's no longer celibate, it's a challenge "you sistas are the truth".
case close it aint that hard.
one lie lead to another and another. now he tainted his movement that he worked so hard for in the first place.
People make mistakes, fuckit. We've all done a little silly ? from time to time. I just overdrew my Bank Account the other day buyin Seafood and didn't even realize it. Now thanks to the penalties and the cost of the food I owe the bank $38.
It's not the worst thing in the world but it's ? silly. And he's no Rozay either so we shouldn't lump all of that ? together
did u really just compare ya self, buying sea food to umar johnson, and what he's tryna do with this school movement ???????
look dude, i understand we all make mistakes. but when you are in a certain position, certain mistakes can be costly.
this will definitely taint his movement...
this ain't even about the stripper chick, cause that's literally nothing.
it's about lying, about potentially being cellibate, when he didn't have to lie at all.
then when he got busted, he lied and said it was 2 weeks, when it was more like 6 months. then potentially lying about demarcus cousins.
that speaks to his character, and he's looking like a potential liar.
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That's a Sheeplike Mob Mentality to have tho. It's immature to think about it like that
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Before this thread I knew nothing about this brothers sexual endeavors...
I don't care if he celibate, it's none of my business. -
downfall of a man=woman
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She was a plant. When they come for you they'll use one of your own
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TheEyeronic1 wrote: »
yeah...your personal life can distort your message.
as well as your public profile
and it's some what naive and hypocritical to say otherwise........ -
HarlemThumzUp wrote: »She was a plant. When they come for you they'll use one of your own
it ain't even that deep bruh...
Umar was caught slipping and that's that ... everything don't have to be a plant.
like numerous posters say, nobody is perfect PERIOD.
and props to Umar for STRIVING to do good.
but at the same time, Umar handling of the situation raises red flags.
everybody slip up , we make mistakes but the homie potentially handle this situation like a non upstanding dude.
and everybody is just giving him a pass blindly. -
HarlemThumzUp wrote: »She was a plant. When they come for you they'll use one of your own
the thing is if this is true
if she was indeed a plant,agent,infiltrator etc.
as many of the good doctor's acolytes have vehemently proclaimed
this should automatically disqualify him to lead
the fact in this day & age, a man of his "esteemed" education,insight and wisdom STILL managed to clumsily fall for (literally) the oldest trick in book???
His judgement skills should forever be under scrutiny
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HarlemThumzUp wrote: »She was a plant. When they come for you they'll use one of your own
the thing is if this is true
if she was indeed a plant,agent,infiltrator etc.
as many of the good doctor's acolytes have vehemently proclaimed
this should automatically disqualify him to lead
the fact in this day & age, a man of his "esteemed" education,insight and wisdom STILL managed to clumsily fall for (literally) the oldest trick in book???
His judgement skills should forever be under scrutiny
Or maybe it just exposes the imperfections of Mankind and we're not the Intellectual Supreme ? 's agenda these new ? is tryna push -
HarlemThumzUp wrote: »She was a plant. When they come for you they'll use one of your own
the thing is if this is true
if she was indeed a plant,agent,infiltrator etc.
as many of the good doctor's acolytes have vehemently proclaimed
this should automatically disqualify him to lead
the fact in this day & age, a man of his "esteemed" education,insight and wisdom STILL managed to clumsily fall for (literally) the oldest trick in book???
His judgement skills should forever be under scrutiny
There will never be a man that Will consistently resist women. -
I would think by know blacks would be smart enough to realize that we shouldn't follow or look for leaders That are impenetrable because they don't exist
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I disagree
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I would think by know blacks would be smart enough to realize that we shouldn't follow or look for leaders That are impenetrable because they don't exist
Black people are looking for one who has no fault, which is horribly impossible. I mean Moses was a great leader but he had faults, David had faults, Mansa Musa had faults, and the list goes ? on but they did great things for the betterment of their people that far outweighed their faults. I could see pimping was their fault because it is deliberate hustling that's a BIG difference versus someone ? up and ? some chick that is a stripper while single. -
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Yes, but only if it directly contradicts what you stand for on a fundamental level i.e. pro-black with white wife, or if the activity is so outlandish that we question your mental stability i.e. ? ? .
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It depends if the person is looking for someone to follow or if they are looking for knowledge
I wouldnt have learned as much as I learned if I care about a persons "image". IMO, if they fall off, I got the knowledge now so fck em. I always try to check sources so really I ain't the type to say be a follower of anyone. Point me to our sources n I'll give u a shout out but that's about it -
Now if that person is asking for money and donations like this ? , then yea character tends to come into play.
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Black folks hold together about as strong as a literal house of playing cards
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HarlemThumzUp wrote: »She was a plant. When they come for you they'll use one of your own
Cointelpro all day -
This is a horizontal issue.
Anyone who completely writes him off after this wasn't completely down anyway. -
Ajackson17 wrote: »
Notice how everythkng that happens is somebody else fault?
"Its the ? !!! Its the feminists!!!"
Not taking responsibility and not properly placing blame is how you know you being hustled.
This ? isnt even a big deal -
Ajackson17 wrote: »
Notice how everythkng that happens is somebody else fault?
"Its the ? !!! Its the feminists!!!"
Not taking responsibility and not properly placing blame is how you know you being hustled.
This ? isnt even a big deal
You realize umar didn't speak in that video right????
https://youtu.be/UNUL1lW048k
