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  • phukkyou2
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    Real religion is no religion at all. How can you be pro-black yet pray not only to a ? that doesn't look like you, but a ? who was not manifested by your people. Still slaves.

    Who says I pray to White Jesus? That's a little stereotypical ain't it. I'm not Protestant either tho.

    I love when people say that tho. I immediately know what they know - for lack of better words


  • phukkyou2
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    I know "White Jesus" is Caesar Borgia.

    I also know that "white jesus" didn't exist until the 1500s (late 1400s)
  • BlackWomanIsGod
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Real religion is no religion at all. How can you be pro-black yet pray not only to a ? that doesn't look like you, but a ? who was not manifested by your people. Still slaves.

    Damn.

    You seen ? ?

    The Black woman is ? .
  • phukkyou2
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    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    phukkyou2 wrote: »
    How y'all come AFTER Christianity, after Judaism, AFTER Buddhism, and virtually after EVERY religion outside of Scientology and say y'all got it right?

    In Islam a Muslims believes in the Books (Torah, Injil, Quran etc.) the prophets (Moses, Noah, Adam, Jesus etc.). With this belief Muslims believe that all of the Prophets came with the same Message Worship ? and ? alone that is, the commonality amongst the Prophets and Messengers sent by ? . So, Muslims do not believe our religion is a one off. It's an extension or a continuation of the same message brought before us. Which, is the bases of the Quran.

    And in the Quran we are advised to not quarrel about such things with the people of the books that came before. In fact I don't argue what is true in regards to Salvation. I will engage in conversation that either confirms or denies what is actually written in regards to Islamic Law.

    I'm hip. But how you can you be late to the game and call the shots tho?

  • aka_OG
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    If African Americans and Arab Muslims came together in unity....the two groups could rule the world. Treaty with either China or Russia and I believe the world could actually have peace.

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  • zzombie
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    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Quite frankly Islamic slavery was worse and lasted longer. It didn't stop until the 60's And in some places it never stopped. Check Sudan and mauritania.. back in the day it was customary and widely practiced for Islamic masters to sterilize their male slaves

    Yes, that's seals it. Servitude\Slavery in Sudan and Maruritania was worse then Christian based Chattel Slavery because, you typed it. O yeah, and you know Chattel Slavery's has no affect on the treatment of today Blackman\Women. You know because, slavery in the states ended sooooooo long ago.

    Slavery in Islamic lands lasted longer and is still going on and only came to an end because the outside world forced it to stop. Slavery was ended in the Christian world by other christians.

    There can never be a real abolitionist movement in Islam because Muhammad owned slaves and there is no way for you to circumvent these facts

    I would just really like for you to stop lying. Servitude\Slavery still exists all over the world in various incarnations.

    Why are you soooo slow? There is no need circumvent facts. Allah (? ) made slavery lawful in all 3 of the major religions under specific circumstances, and strict laws. So, Christians have once again gone against their ? . If, Christians would have actually done the right thing they would SEVERELY PUNISHED all of those loving Christians who ? and Stomped the Skulls of babies. Not just wrote a law into existence while forgiving the savages. And lets stop playing dumb as if, Slavery was just abolished here in the US and everything was back to normal.

    In Christianity ? never made slavery legal. Their is a significant difference betweenv slaveryv and servitude. There is also a difference between what Christian do and what we are allowed to do.

    Christians in America fought a ? civil war to end the man Made right of slavery.

    Muhammad was an enslaving child ? warlord .And anyone who wants proof of this using Muslims sources let me know
  • zzombie
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    Also the whole religion of Islam is based on a lie because all the prophets were from Israel. Muhammad Claims to be the only Arab prophet of ? . foh that alone should signal his fraudulence.
  • jetlifebih
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    im so tight im in class and cant comment
  • Turfaholic
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    Voodoo don't seem too bad
  • kzzl
    kzzl Members Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Quite frankly Islamic slavery was worse and lasted longer. It didn't stop until the 60's And in some places it never stopped. Check Sudan and mauritania.. back in the day it was customary and widely practiced for Islamic masters to sterilize their male slaves

    Yes, that's seals it. Servitude\Slavery in Sudan and Maruritania was worse then Christian based Chattel Slavery because, you typed it. O yeah, and you know Chattel Slavery's has no affect on the treatment of today Blackman\Women. You know because, slavery in the states ended sooooooo long ago.

    Slavery in Islamic lands lasted longer and is still going on and only came to an end because the outside world forced it to stop. Slavery was ended in the Christian world by other christians.

    There can never be a real abolitionist movement in Islam because Muhammad owned slaves and there is no way for you to circumvent these facts

    I would just really like for you to stop lying. Servitude\Slavery still exists all over the world in various incarnations.

    Why are you soooo slow? There is no need circumvent facts. Allah (? ) made slavery lawful in all 3 of the major religions under specific circumstances, and strict laws. So, Christians have once again gone against their ? . If, Christians would have actually done the right thing they would SEVERELY PUNISHED all of those loving Christians who ? and Stomped the Skulls of babies. Not just wrote a law into existence while forgiving the savages. And lets stop playing dumb as if, Slavery was just abolished here in the US and everything was back to normal.

    In Christianity ? never made slavery legal. Their is a significant difference betweenv slaveryv and servitude. There is also a difference between what Christian do and what we are allowed to do.

    Christians in America fought a ? civil war to end the man Made right of slavery.

    Muhammad was an enslaving child ? warlord .And anyone who wants proof of this using Muslims sources let me know

    Anybody that follows Christianity, or any religion, is a slave/servant to that ? . It didn't need to be made legal on paper.

    Christians fought a war with other Christians to keep slavery, which by all recorded accounts was worst than Islamic slavery. And that war didn't end slavery. Nor was it solely for the genuine concern of black life. And slavery itself is still maintained through the prison and rehabilitation systems of today under Christian dominance.

    Child ? warlords? Well, so were many Christian figures throughout time.

    And their "lie" of Muhammad is no different than the Christian lie of their Jesus.

    It's weak to scrutinize other peoples believes and not hold your own to the same scale.
  • zzombie
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    kzzl wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Quite frankly Islamic slavery was worse and lasted longer. It didn't stop until the 60's And in some places it never stopped. Check Sudan and mauritania.. back in the day it was customary and widely practiced for Islamic masters to sterilize their male slaves

    Yes, that's seals it. Servitude\Slavery in Sudan and Maruritania was worse then Christian based Chattel Slavery because, you typed it. O yeah, and you know Chattel Slavery's has no affect on the treatment of today Blackman\Women. You know because, slavery in the states ended sooooooo long ago.

    Slavery in Islamic lands lasted longer and is still going on and only came to an end because the outside world forced it to stop. Slavery was ended in the Christian world by other christians.

    There can never be a real abolitionist movement in Islam because Muhammad owned slaves and there is no way for you to circumvent these facts

    I would just really like for you to stop lying. Servitude\Slavery still exists all over the world in various incarnations.

    Why are you soooo slow? There is no need circumvent facts. Allah (? ) made slavery lawful in all 3 of the major religions under specific circumstances, and strict laws. So, Christians have once again gone against their ? . If, Christians would have actually done the right thing they would SEVERELY PUNISHED all of those loving Christians who ? and Stomped the Skulls of babies. Not just wrote a law into existence while forgiving the savages. And lets stop playing dumb as if, Slavery was just abolished here in the US and everything was back to normal.

    In Christianity ? never made slavery legal. Their is a significant difference betweenv slaveryv and servitude. There is also a difference between what Christian do and what we are allowed to do.

    Christians in America fought a ? civil war to end the man Made right of slavery.

    Muhammad was an enslaving child ? warlord .And anyone who wants proof of this using Muslims sources let me know

    Anybody that follows Christianity, or any religion, is a slave/servant to that ? . It didn't need to be made legal on paper.

    Christians fought a war with other Christians to keep slavery, which by all recorded accounts was worst than Islamic slavery. And that war didn't end slavery. Nor was it solely for the genuine concern of black life. And slavery itself is still maintained through the prison and rehabilitation systems of today under Christian prominence.

    Child ? warlords? Well, so were many Christian figures throughout time.

    And their "lie" of Muhammad is no different than the Christian lie of their Jesus.

    It's weak to scrutinize other peoples believes and not hold your own to the same scale.

    Smh..... I really don't know how many ? times I have to explain to people that there is a difference between the actions of christians and the teachings of Christ. For example

    I am a Christian I am not supposed to watch porn but I do. This is not a reflection on Jesus it's an example of my disobedience.

    So what Christian figures did throughout history is irrelevant unless it comes directly from the gospel.

    Islamic slavery lasted hundreds of years longer and muslims never ended slavery of their own accord. And the civil war did legally end slavery in the USA
  • zzombie
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    The Christian concept of the relationship of ? to man is one of father to child . Christians are not servants or slaves of ? we are his children.

    This theological is the opposite of the Islamic conception.

    The whole imprisonment equals chattel slavery ? is extremely disrespectful to our ancestors.
  • zzombie
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    Christian history is ?
    Islamic history is ?

    Christian doctrine in the gospel is peaceful.

    Islamic doctrine in the Koran is warlike
  • BlackWomanIsGod
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Christian history is ?
    Islamic history is ?

    Christian doctrine in the gospel is peaceful.

    Islamic doctrine in the Koran is warlike

    I thought you were pro-black?
  • DarcSkies
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    If I was them I wouldnt give them ? ? . Black Christians are the WORST. Stay ? on other religions especially Muslims. Always saying slick ? like, "I care nothin bout no Allah or Muhammad or Buddah...I SERVE A LIVING ? ! HIS NAME IS JEEEEESUS!!!"

    And as much money as pastors con collect from their congregation you'd think they could at least afford to pay a monthly insurance payment for when ? like this happens. So you're a black Church in the south but you had no Arson/Accidental Fire insurance?

    GUess "the Blood of Jesus" was supposed to be enough ay Pastor ? ? I wouldn't have given them judgmental hateful ass church ? one muthafukkin Dinar.

    Or whatever the ? you Moozlums use for currency; Dinar, Goats Milk, First born daughters ? I dont know.
  • kzzl
    kzzl Members Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zzombie wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Quite frankly Islamic slavery was worse and lasted longer. It didn't stop until the 60's And in some places it never stopped. Check Sudan and mauritania.. back in the day it was customary and widely practiced for Islamic masters to sterilize their male slaves

    Yes, that's seals it. Servitude\Slavery in Sudan and Maruritania was worse then Christian based Chattel Slavery because, you typed it. O yeah, and you know Chattel Slavery's has no affect on the treatment of today Blackman\Women. You know because, slavery in the states ended sooooooo long ago.

    Slavery in Islamic lands lasted longer and is still going on and only came to an end because the outside world forced it to stop. Slavery was ended in the Christian world by other christians.

    There can never be a real abolitionist movement in Islam because Muhammad owned slaves and there is no way for you to circumvent these facts

    I would just really like for you to stop lying. Servitude\Slavery still exists all over the world in various incarnations.

    Why are you soooo slow? There is no need circumvent facts. Allah (? ) made slavery lawful in all 3 of the major religions under specific circumstances, and strict laws. So, Christians have once again gone against their ? . If, Christians would have actually done the right thing they would SEVERELY PUNISHED all of those loving Christians who ? and Stomped the Skulls of babies. Not just wrote a law into existence while forgiving the savages. And lets stop playing dumb as if, Slavery was just abolished here in the US and everything was back to normal.

    In Christianity ? never made slavery legal. Their is a significant difference betweenv slaveryv and servitude. There is also a difference between what Christian do and what we are allowed to do.

    Christians in America fought a ? civil war to end the man Made right of slavery.

    Muhammad was an enslaving child ? warlord .And anyone who wants proof of this using Muslims sources let me know

    Anybody that follows Christianity, or any religion, is a slave/servant to that ? . It didn't need to be made legal on paper.

    Christians fought a war with other Christians to keep slavery, which by all recorded accounts was worst than Islamic slavery. And that war didn't end slavery. Nor was it solely for the genuine concern of black life. And slavery itself is still maintained through the prison and rehabilitation systems of today under Christian prominence.

    Child ? warlords? Well, so were many Christian figures throughout time.

    And their "lie" of Muhammad is no different than the Christian lie of their Jesus.

    It's weak to scrutinize other peoples believes and not hold your own to the same scale.

    Smh..... I really don't know how many ? times I have to explain to people that there is a difference between the actions of christians and the teachings of Christ. For example

    I am a Christian I am not supposed to watch porn but I do. This is not a reflection on Jesus it's an example of my disobedience.

    So what Christian figures did throughout history is irrelevant unless it comes directly from the gospel.

    Islamic slavery lasted hundreds of years longer and muslims never ended slavery of their own accord. And the civil war did legally end slavery in the USA

    Everything you said to defend your Christians can be said of Muslims.

    You're not mentioning how Islam also humanized and allowed their slaves to gain social standing on their own accord. How they didn't encourage racial antipathy on their own accord. Among other things. Not that I'm trying to glamorize their role, but I've got to be fair here. Almost none of which could be said for the Christians who took every possible way they could to oppress slaves on their own accord. Christians are in no postion to throw stones.

    And the civil war did not just legally end slavery. States were still able to keep slaves after the war. And blacks in "free" states were still at risk of being kidnapped or returned to those slave states. It wasn't till years later that it was "abolished", but honestly just reborn into the prison system.
  • BlackWomanIsGod
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    Black people are so dumb its ridiculous. The main reason today black people are christians is because of the white mans whip; slavery and colonialism. It's why their have been very little black progress. Because as soon as you drop that pro-black ? , ? quick to quote their bible; giving to them by white men, to keep them slaves of the white man forever.

    If you are not Coptic Egyptian, or Ethiopian and you are a black christian, your people accepted Christianity by force! There is no way around it! Islam unified West Africa (the ancestral lands of new world blacks). Timbuktu and many of the other African civilizations of the Sahel would have never manifested if not for Islam. The richest black man in the history of the world, Mansa Musa was a muslim. West Africans did not accept islam by force, they accepted it peacefully, which is well documented.

    Islam is a religion for the oppressed, it teaches you to stomp out your oppressor. Christianity, teaches you to love your oppressor, which black people have being doing for 500 years. I wonder when you all will finally wake up?

    And this projection of Islam taking elements from the bible, and they believe this and that... vice versa... Christianity and Islam both owe their all to Africa, more specifically Egyptian cosmology. They both ripped off the Egyptian book of the dead.

  • Inglewood_B
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Let's not act like Muslims ain't killing black Christians in Africa.

    That is not a judgment on the religion though...

    Don't matter.

    We throw ppl under the bus as a whole all the time. They ain't no different.

    And let's not act like the core values of Muslims actually don't look down on that.
    so you judging Mohammed Ali and Malcolm X ect for that ? as well?

    You're a Christian. You shouldnt ride for other religions.


    Remember your first commandment.

    Judaism, Islam and Christianity all serve the same ? . ? of Abraham. So that commandment doesn't apply here
  • kzzl
    kzzl Members Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zzombie wrote: »
    The Christian concept of the relationship of ? to man is one of father to child . Christians are not servants or slaves of ? we are his children.

    This theological is the opposite of the Islamic conception.

    The whole imprisonment equals chattel slavery ? is extremely disrespectful to our ancestors.

    Father and child? That's just a romanticized way of saying master and slave. My dad is in his 70's and enjoying his golden years, I ain't disrespecting that man and giving his title to anybody, or anything, else. But if that's the case, ? is the most deadbeat father of all time if you really wanna get to it.

    And slavery is slavery. Imprisonment or chattel, they are still slaves.
  • soul rattler
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Christian history is ?
    Islamic history is ?

    Christian doctrine in the gospel is peaceful.

    Islamic doctrine in the Koran is warlike
    LOL @ this gotdamn lie


    When atrocity is as systemic as it is within Christianity, the "bad egg" argument goes out the window.
  • Inglewood_B
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    Muslims give hella props to Christ throughout the Koran too. They just don't worship the myth of Jesus
  • Olorun22
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    Black people are so dumb its ridiculous. The main reason today black people are christians is because of the white mans whip; slavery and colonialism. It's why their have been very little black progress. Because as soon as you drop that pro-black ? , ? quick to quote their bible; giving to them by white men, to keep them slaves of the white man forever.

    If you are not Coptic Egyptian, or Ethiopian and you are a black christian, your people accepted Christianity by force! There is no way around it! Islam unified West Africa (the ancestral lands of new world blacks). Timbuktu and many of the other African civilizations of the Sahel would have never manifested if not for Islam. The richest black man in the history of the world, Mansa Musa was a muslim. West Africans did not accept islam by force, they accepted it peacefully, which is well documented.

    Islam is a religion for the oppressed, it teaches you to stomp out your oppressor. Christianity, teaches you to love your oppressor, which black people have being doing for 500 years. I wonder when you all will finally wake up?

    And this projection of Islam taking elements from the bible, and they believe this and that... vice versa... Christianity and Islam both owe their all to Africa, more specifically Egyptian cosmology. They both ripped off the Egyptian book of the dead.

    Basically you say the the Arab was superior to the black man and he had education the black man.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Christian history is ?
    Islamic history is ?

    Christian doctrine in the gospel is peaceful.

    Islamic doctrine in the Koran is warlike

    I thought you were pro-black?

    I am pro-black the same way marcus garvey was
  • phukkyou2
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    Black people are so dumb its ridiculous. The main reason today black people are christians is because of the white mans whip; slavery and colonialism. It's why their have been very little black progress. Because as soon as you drop that pro-black ? , ? quick to quote their bible; giving to them by white men, to keep them slaves of the white man forever.

    If you are not Coptic Egyptian, or Ethiopian and you are a black christian, your people accepted Christianity by force! There is no way around it! Islam unified West Africa (the ancestral lands of new world blacks). Timbuktu and many of the other African civilizations of the Sahel would have never manifested if not for Islam. The richest black man in the history of the world, Mansa Musa was a muslim. West Africans did not accept islam by force, they accepted it peacefully, which is well documented.

    Islam is a religion for the oppressed, it teaches you to stomp out your oppressor. Christianity, teaches you to love your oppressor, which black people have being doing for 500 years. I wonder when you all will finally wake up?

    And this projection of Islam taking elements from the bible, and they believe this and that... vice versa... Christianity and Islam both owe their all to Africa, more specifically Egyptian cosmology. They both ripped off the Egyptian book of the dead.

    1 - Europeans got Christianity from us. The first leaders were gathered out in Rome. They were Black
    http://realhistoryww.com/
    Try learning something sometime instead of regurgitating what some wild ? said


    2 - Muslims have been around for a very very long time but NEVER ran ? and have been gettin rode on ever since. I'm willing to bet that every black Muslim you know is either Poor or Middle Class. None of the ones you know got that Creflo. Don't even lie....
    - That should tell you something or atleast give you a hint


    3 - black people started Christianity. The Devil is at war with ? . Stop using the actions of ? to justify your hate for ? you don't understand or control. If you actually read the Bible then you'd know how he rolls. None of us are the creator. We don't make the rules, get over it, grow up


    4 - ? Egypt. Stop bringing up Egypt as if Egypt was the only place poppin or ever was. There were also Egyptian Christians. Everyone in Egypt wasn't worshipping Statues and Pictures. But most did. And that's why they've been looking for Christian handouts ever since.
  • phukkyou2
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    ? love screamin Egypt but don't know ? about the Continent or the Continent above it smh. Lemmings