Oh ? .... The ether that Jayz put on Nas in this song....
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Why did jay diss nas first is the question i want to know? Nas gave him the drake meek mill treatment when jay got the ? to mention his name.
"But thats her i aint mad baby it made me stronger now i get my paper longer" - Nas
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It's been 15 years and that Ether is still burning ? . Its like a got damn incurable Herpes Simplex Virus. ? got to apply Abreva to you jigga nut huggers to shut y'all fatherless ? up. It's over. ? aint gonna change their opinions about who won. Go to rap genius if y'all want to check facts and argue because it's redundant going back and forth. Jigga vs Nas is the greatest battle ever, lets move the ? on already.
Nas - Fatman Scoop Interview (2 - 3 Days after Stillmatic dropped)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H8nNqO1C80
Nas - Funkmaster Flex interview the day Stillmatic dropped (1 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jq1gRtHzk
Nas - Funkmaster Flex interview the day Stillmatic dropped (2 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZljllp-_BI
Nas - Funkmaster Flex interview the day Stillmatic dropped (3 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76iPb3b1h8A
Nas - Funkmaster Flex interview the day Stillmatic dropped (4 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7xwzuxUuYo
Nas - Funkmaster Flex interview the day Stillmatic dropped (5 of 5)
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Lol at ignoring a whole verse about instances and situations based on a timeline of when ppl came in the game..... You need to just stop it ? say takeover is facts and ether is emotions becuz one stayed on topic about the ? and his career and the other was telling a bunch of lip ? ? ugly jokes mixed with their history.... Simple
But how is Takeover facts when he's saying that Nas has been in the game for 10 years and that he's been in it for 5? That's a lie. Jay Z had been in the game for 15 years when Takeover came out. His first song came out in 1986.
Furthermore he said, "I showed you your first tech on tour with Large Professor" presumably when Main Source and Jaz were touring in the early 90s. This further proves that Jay Z had been around longer than 5 years.
So can you please explain how Takeover is "facts"?
Or are you going to encourage me to ignore those lines?
My ? you really tryna say a whole verse ain't facts becuz of timestamps of who released what when??? You need to just logoff my ? .....I already explained why ppl say takeover is about facts and ether isn't and your reply is to ignore and ask the same question bout the same ? .... Ok Nas wasn't in it 10 years he was in it 7 years at the time....see how silly and trivial that is.....smfh
But you keep repeating that, "Takeover was facts" over and over again. That's the premise of your argument and I'm trying to get you to admit that Takeover wasn't facts. He was just making stuff up because it rhymed but you can prove beyond reasonable doubt (no pun intended) that he lied about several things in his verse. In fact, his verse contradicts itself. In one breath he says he, "showed you your first tech on tour with Large Professor" and in the next breath he says "you been in it 10/I been in it 5". How is that facts?
How is 4 albums in 10 years "facts" when he released his first album in 1994 and his 4th (or 5th including The Firm) in 1999? That's not 10 years.
And how did he go from "top 10 to not mentioned at all" if he was on Hot Boys which broke the record for most weeks at #1?
Dafuq so he was mentioned becuz he was on a remix to a song??? ? you really be on here sounding dumb..... And if you really wanna break Jay ? down to every ounce like it seems you're doing Jay ACTUALLY said "YOU said you been in this 10" basically insinuating that it was NAS who said he been in this 10 not Jay so your whole ? is killed becuz that was NAS assessment of how long he been in it not Jay's.... Now take that L and fall back bruh lol -
This Is One Of The Reasons Why nas LOST" HIP HOP NEWS SHORTS...
Nas Says 'No' to Jay-Z's Pay Per View Emcee Challenge. As you may
recall Jay-Z publicly challeneged Nas to a battle on pay perview for a
million dollars. The proceeds would go to charity. He is quoted as
saying that Pay Per view is for wrestlers and boxers and that if Jigga
wants to battle he should they should both drop albums on the same day
and let the public decide...mmmm What about the kids? What about all
that money for the kids?.........And nas is y'all savior, lol, but nas is still kool. Link > (http://www.daveyd.com/FNVaug142002a.html) -
lol, Jigga challenging nas to a boxing match actually makes him look bad. It shows he's desperate for a win. If he felt confident about his win towards nas, he would've never suggested a boxing match. A sucka always gotta prove themselves.raheemclassick wrote: »This Is One Of The Reasons Why nas LOST" HIP HOP NEWS SHORTS...
Nas Says 'No' to Jay-Z's Pay Per View Emcee Challenge. As you may
recall Jay-Z publicly challeneged Nas to a battle on pay perview for a
million dollars. The proceeds would go to charity. He is quoted as
saying that Pay Per view is for wrestlers and boxers and that if Jigga
wants to battle he should they should both drop albums on the same day
and let the public decide...mmmm What about the kids? What about all
that money for the kids?.........And nas is y'all savior, lol, but nas is still kool. Link > (http://www.daveyd.com/FNVaug142002a.html)
"Now that's young chick, stewardess, project and model
That means I fly rough early
plus I know Tae Bo"
Tae bo is a ? ? workout. Who the ? is scared of a ? that does tae bo. C'mon son. Out of all the jay fans on here you and getoboy are the worst. That tidal thread made me realize that. It's been 15 years yo, let that ? go. -
saracenwire wrote: »Takeover as a song is much better than ether though ether is good. Ether was the much more effective diss record. For all it's greatness Takeover is one of the least effective diss records ever. All it did was reinvigorate Nas and put him back in peoples consciousness at a time when they had forgotten about him. Plus people went back over Nas's discography and realized It was Written was actually great, making Jay's "Facts" ? .
That's how I feel for the most part I like Stillmatic better than Blueprint but I skip ether half the time where takeover is one of the highlights of that album, I just like how he executed the song better BUT it was more than ether vs takeover it was a chess match and Jigga played his cards completely wrong after Ether dropped, I think he caught Jay way off guard because even he said it himself "there was no coming back from that" -
lmao jigga stans are funny as ? , how can you not see the truth? Jay is corny he just has a cool delivery and flow, lol at takeover being facts, jay was trying to give the impression Nas was putting out garbage after Illmatic, he even called illmatic LAAAAME, is this facts? Jay has never had an album as good as illmatic or it was written, do we need to talk about his I AM album too? ? even Nastradamus was better than Volume 3 and they both came out in 99, Jay thought he had an easy target on his hands with Nas in 2001, little did he know he ? with the wrong one, Jay hit Nas with a ? shooter, then Nas hit Jay with a mike tyson hook, after that all Jay had was "I left condoms on the baby seat"
^^ These are the facts, deny them if you must but they will never change as long as I am on this ? board ? !! -
LMFAO @tompetrez3 with that post.. bruh you should be directing porno
And T/S is an undercover NaS groupie -
I got love for Jay music but.... Nas looks about 25 years old tops, Jay looks close to 60. Nas can still go to queens and drop jewels to inspire kids heading the wrong route, Jay ain't been to his old hood since 22 and probably don't give a ? about the ppl there . Nas had Beyonce begging him to take her number.. he declined and never spoke about it or that her breath smelled like ? , Carmen let Jay sniff her ass and he damn near writes a memoir. Nas still lyrically sharp, Jay aint had a memorable verse since the 90s. Jay gets praised for the same ? Tyga gets dragged for... ? a minor. Beyonce Knowles was 17 and Jay was 30.. much bigger age gap than Tyga and Kylie. Just sayin..
Its amazing the ? dudes type when it comes to Jay...lmao -
LMFAO @tompetrez3 with that post.. bruh you should be directing porno
And T/S is an undercover NaS groupie
Your an overt j dilla groupie -
saracenwire wrote: »Takeover as a song is much better than ether though ether is good. Ether was the much more effective diss record. For all it's greatness Takeover is one of the least effective diss records ever. All it did was reinvigorate Nas and put him back in peoples consciousness at a time when they had forgotten about him. Plus people went back over Nas's discography and realized It was Written was actually great, making Jay's "Facts" ? .
LMAO @ the. Bold.. So Nas fans can go back over his albums and determine them to be great after the initial reaction wasn't as positive but I hear the argument all the time about reasonable doubt not being a classic becuz it wasn't as reconized the same way other albums were when it initially came out
Nas fans for u. And I ain't Just talking bout u.. I see that ? all the time on here... The irony... -
texasdaking88 wrote: »saracenwire wrote: »Takeover as a song is much better than ether though ether is good. Ether was the much more effective diss record. For all it's greatness Takeover is one of the least effective diss records ever. All it did was reinvigorate Nas and put him back in peoples consciousness at a time when they had forgotten about him. Plus people went back over Nas's discography and realized It was Written was actually great, making Jay's "Facts" ? .
LMAO @ the. Bold.. So Nas fans can go back over his albums and determine them to be great after the initial reaction wasn't as positive but I hear the argument all the time about reasonable doubt not being a classic becuz it wasn't as reconized the same way other albums were when it initially came out
Nas fans for u. And I ain't Just talking bout u.. I see that ? all the time on here... The irony...
Well Nastradamus originally got a 2.5 mic rating in The Source. But if you go back and listen to it today, its easily a 4 mic album. -
^^ aight he trollin
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Jayz was born in 1969 damn that ? old as ? . That old ass ? aint got the juice no more. In four years he will be 50 these young boys dont want to hear no half a century year old ? bout ace of ? , trips to the south of france, or beyonce bars. Thats 60-70% of his music.
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texasdaking88 wrote: »saracenwire wrote: »Takeover as a song is much better than ether though ether is good. Ether was the much more effective diss record. For all it's greatness Takeover is one of the least effective diss records ever. All it did was reinvigorate Nas and put him back in peoples consciousness at a time when they had forgotten about him. Plus people went back over Nas's discography and realized It was Written was actually great, making Jay's "Facts" ? .
LMAO @ the. Bold.. So Nas fans can go back over his albums and determine them to be great after the initial reaction wasn't as positive but I hear the argument all the time about reasonable doubt not being a classic becuz it wasn't as reconized the same way other albums were when it initially came out
Nas fans for u. And I ain't Just talking bout u.. I see that ? all the time on here... The irony...
Swear the Nas stans are the worst..... ? be having no kinda of consistency like the rules are different when it comes to their guy lol -
lol, Jigga challenging nas to a boxing match actually makes him look bad. It shows he's desperate for a win. If he felt confident about his win towards nas, he would've never suggested a boxing match. A sucka always gotta prove themselves.raheemclassick wrote: »This Is One Of The Reasons Why nas LOST" HIP HOP NEWS SHORTS...
Nas Says 'No' to Jay-Z's Pay Per View Emcee Challenge. As you may
recall Jay-Z publicly challeneged Nas to a battle on pay perview for a
million dollars. The proceeds would go to charity. He is quoted as
saying that Pay Per view is for wrestlers and boxers and that if Jigga
wants to battle he should they should both drop albums on the same day
and let the public decide...mmmm What about the kids? What about all
that money for the kids?.........And nas is y'all savior, lol, but nas is still kool. Link > (http://www.daveyd.com/FNVaug142002a.html)
"Now that's young chick, stewardess, project and model
That means I fly rough early
plus I know Tae Bo"
Tae bo is a ? ? workout. Who the ? is scared of a ? that does tae bo. C'mon son. Out of all the jay fans on here you and getoboy are the worst. That tidal thread made me realize that. It's been 15 years yo, let that ? go.
Jay didn't challenge him to a boxing match he challenged him to a battle rap and how does me talking the benefits of tidal that had nothing to do with Jay make me a "worst fan" stop it....so if you gonna pop ? A) get you facts straight and B ) @ me next time lil ? -
texasdaking88 wrote: »saracenwire wrote: »Takeover as a song is much better than ether though ether is good. Ether was the much more effective diss record. For all it's greatness Takeover is one of the least effective diss records ever. All it did was reinvigorate Nas and put him back in peoples consciousness at a time when they had forgotten about him. Plus people went back over Nas's discography and realized It was Written was actually great, making Jay's "Facts" ? .
LMAO @ the. Bold.. So Nas fans can go back over his albums and determine them to be great after the initial reaction wasn't as positive but I hear the argument all the time about reasonable doubt not being a classic becuz it wasn't as reconized the same way other albums were when it initially came out
Nas fans for u. And I ain't Just talking bout u.. I see that ? all the time on here... The irony...
Swear the Nas stans are the worst..... ? be having no kinda of consistency like the rules are different when it comes to their guy lol
Nas the best rapper alive i dont understand how people could even fix they face to hate on Escobar like what part of the game is that.
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Them ? hanging out, making songs together, and you ? in here actin like its 2001 and the tracks were aimed at yall.....
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lol, Jigga challenging nas to a boxing match actually makes him look bad. It shows he's desperate for a win. If he felt confident about his win towards nas, he would've never suggested a boxing match. A sucka always gotta prove themselves.raheemclassick wrote: »This Is One Of The Reasons Why nas LOST" HIP HOP NEWS SHORTS...
Nas Says 'No' to Jay-Z's Pay Per View Emcee Challenge. As you may
recall Jay-Z publicly challeneged Nas to a battle on pay perview for a
million dollars. The proceeds would go to charity. He is quoted as
saying that Pay Per view is for wrestlers and boxers and that if Jigga
wants to battle he should they should both drop albums on the same day
and let the public decide...mmmm What about the kids? What about all
that money for the kids?.........And nas is y'all savior, lol, but nas is still kool. Link > (http://www.daveyd.com/FNVaug142002a.html)
"Now that's young chick, stewardess, project and model
That means I fly rough early
plus I know Tae Bo"
Tae bo is a ? ? workout. Who the ? is scared of a ? that does tae bo. C'mon son. Out of all the jay fans on here you and getoboy are the worst. That tidal thread made me realize that. It's been 15 years yo, let that ? go.
Jay didn't challenge him to a boxing match he challenged him to a battle rap and how does me talking the benefits of tidal that had nothing to do with Jay make me a "worst fan" stop it....so if you gonna pop ? A) get you facts straight and B ) @ me next time lil ?
Bruh...it was a boxing match....Jigga warriors really have phd's in rewriting history..
That's why NAS said "mobster's don't box my pump shot obliges/any invitation to fight your punk ? "
Now y'all taking shots at Nas's character for turning down the fight cause it was for charity......really?So it was about the kids and not Jay-Z trying to save face.
That's like when two kids in high school are snapping on one another then one says "ok but I bet you can't whoop me"..now tell me which out of the two caught feelings then apply that to.....I'm a stop right thereThem ? hanging out, making songs together, and you ? in here actin like its 2001 and the tracks were aimed at yall.....
I know and I couldn't agree more but these Jay stans really know how to bait people...which is why this is gonna be my only post in this thread....I normally avoid these n vs j threads at all cost...im done
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Jigga had nas so mad that he wanted to hang him on stage 6 months after ether.Nas was willing to lynch a brotha and have whitey help do what crackas did to black folks cuz he got clapped wit facts.
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oh man, How the tables have turned, jay says nas had one hot album in 10 years and now its 2015 and jayz only released one good album(american gangster) since 2005
"only the strong will continue"- Nas -
clairvoyance wrote: »
lol, Jigga challenging nas to a boxing match actually makes him look bad. It shows he's desperate for a win. If he felt confident about his win towards nas, he would've never suggested a boxing match. A sucka always gotta prove themselves.raheemclassick wrote: »This Is One Of The Reasons Why nas LOST" HIP HOP NEWS SHORTS...
Nas Says 'No' to Jay-Z's Pay Per View Emcee Challenge. As you may
recall Jay-Z publicly challeneged Nas to a battle on pay perview for a
million dollars. The proceeds would go to charity. He is quoted as
saying that Pay Per view is for wrestlers and boxers and that if Jigga
wants to battle he should they should both drop albums on the same day
and let the public decide...mmmm What about the kids? What about all
that money for the kids?.........And nas is y'all savior, lol, but nas is still kool. Link > (http://www.daveyd.com/FNVaug142002a.html)
"Now that's young chick, stewardess, project and model
That means I fly rough early
plus I know Tae Bo"
Tae bo is a ? ? workout. Who the ? is scared of a ? that does tae bo. C'mon son. Out of all the jay fans on here you and getoboy are the worst. That tidal thread made me realize that. It's been 15 years yo, let that ? go.
Jay didn't challenge him to a boxing match he challenged him to a battle rap and how does me talking the benefits of tidal that had nothing to do with Jay make me a "worst fan" stop it....so if you gonna pop ? A) get you facts straight and B ) @ me next time lil ?
Bruh...it was a boxing match....Jigga warriors really have phd's in rewriting history..
That's why NAS said "mobster's don't box my pump shot obliges/any invitation to fight your punk ? "
Now y'all taking shots at Nas's character for turning down the fight cause it was for charity......really?So it was about the kids and not Jay-Z trying to save face.
That's like when two kids in high school are snapping on one another then one says "ok but I bet you can't whoop me"..now tell me which out of the two caught feelings then apply that to.....I'm a stop right thereThem ? hanging out, making songs together, and you ? in here actin like its 2001 and the tracks were aimed at yall.....
I know and I couldn't agree more but these Jay stans really know how to bait people...which is why this is gonna be my only post in this thread....I normally avoid these n vs j threads at all cost...im done
Now ? and hold this L ? @clairvoyance
http://www.mtv.com/news/1456942/jay-z-challenges-nas-to-pay-per-view-battle-during-radio-takeover/ -
LMFAO @tompetrez3 with that post.. bruh you should be directing porno
And T/S is an undercover NaS groupie
Your an overt j dilla groupie
I don't go about making countless threads about him though like you do for NaS.. -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »oh man, How the tables have turned, jay says nas had one hot album in 10 years and now its 2015 and jayz only released one good album(american gangster) since 2005
"only the strong will continue"- Nas
Your a clown, ag and mchg are soon to be classic, I don't know if one person alive is still listenening to ? albums, Jamaican raps n what that last ? nas put out? Straight adding ton seriously all of nas best work is on features and mixtapes, and your first four are more important than your last 4
