Lil Wayne's Best Album: Carter I, Carter II, or Carter III

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  • AP21
    AP21 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tha Carter II
    Carter 3 was a glorified mixtape

    It had some VERY nice songs, but there was no theme like the previous two installements. No fly in/walk in...fly out/walk out interludes. The C3 sounds like some songs that probably could've gone on C2 but got scrapped at the last min and the rest of the C3 sounds like fillers. Dont get me wrong, its a very nice album, but it just pales in comparison to the previous two.
  • youngnick
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    Tha Carter II
    Carter II only Wayne album I like.
  • mryounggun
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    Tha Carter II
    C1 was REALLY good, it was that album that put ? on wayne heavy and when he really started blossoming into an MC. C3 was when he started his decline, to me. Still a dope album, but the lyrics weren't as crisp, the language wasn't as fly, and it was SUPER commercial.

    C2 though??? That ? was phenomenal. That was his peak, prolly (A case could be made for Dedication 2 and/or Drought 3). And as much as I LOVE mania fresh, I don't think it's a coincidence that Wayne went to another level when he started having mad other ? produce his ? .

    Then again, he hasn't really made much dope music since C3 to me, so ...yeah.
  • mryounggun
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    Tha Carter II
    Sion wrote: »
    If ? think Wayne fell off listen to this and ask yourself if you truthfully believe Wayne fell off or aint had top 5 verse of the year and he aint eem drop an album this year....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEKeVrUB_uQ


    This is literally Lil Wayne ft. A$AP Rocky

    This is always the verse people point to, in terms of recent standout Wayne verses. I gotta be honest, man. It just don't move me like that. I dunno if he has lost a step, he's just not as clever as he used to be...or I just outgrew him. But It's SOMETHING. I don't enjoy his music on any level anymore.

    I dunno, man.
  • aneed123
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    Tha Carter I
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    wayne was wabbldy wabbldy, he was also this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6culKsr4D4s

    his growth could come from gillie influence, i also attribute it to letting go of some of that bounce music he was on and maturing into a grown mane

    also im puttin any ? who say turk out rapped any hot boyz on a consistent basis on shady team status


    Wrong
    Sqad Up mixtape showed his growth.

    500 degreez as well
  • Siqnih Da Trapper
    Siqnih Da Trapper Members Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tha Carter I
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    Man I remember omw to high school when the Carter 1 dropped straight flames!!!

    LOVE THAT ALBUM MAN

    fav track is "who wanna"

    man he murked who wanna every verse is full of quoteables


    dump toys boy
    at ya punk boy toy
    take the pump out the trunk
    take a chunk out a chump whoa!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpZg0_r9Gxk

    Didn't kno jam master well but I rock with my shells on
  • Siqnih Da Trapper
    Siqnih Da Trapper Members Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tha Carter I
    Man that dude was inspired by Jay z on C1 u can easily hear the influence in his raps y'all kills me with this gillie ?
  • SELASI_i
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    Tha Carter II
    Can't say I cosign a lot of the ? he says and does but Wayne been one of my favorite rappers since the hot boys. He was on top of his ? just spittin around the C2 era.
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    Tha Carter II
    Sion did tears fall down your cheeks as you typed all that bruh? Lol.
  • Peace_79
    Peace_79 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tha Carter I
    Two things I have come to realize ...

    Wayne is different, and "real" hip hop fans can't see past that

    Wayne is from the NO and he came up under the Hot Boyz. He is not from the Mecca. He ain't from the west coast. He didn't come up around Big Ls, Bigs, Pacs, UGKs etc.

    So why would he fit the mold of these type of emcees?

    ...Rap like them, paint the same stories, have the same flow etc?

    He wouldn't

    Doesent mean he isn't great.






    He is also a very different cat...

    Dude is kind of eccentric and strange. The way he'll laugh on a track and record songs that are "way out there" or "not safe" can be off-putting if you looking for the "traditional MC".

    He has also done some questionable, and very "un-cool" ? in his personal life... And he loses points for that too



    But none of that means his ? isn't dope...

    Flow, presence, versality, lyrical gymnastics.

    He's one of the best to ever do it, period.






    The Carter 3 is much better than most give it credit for

    It would literally be a modern classic if it weren't for a few missteps.

    C3 has a lot of great songs and a few exceptional ones. But "Phone Home" and "Got Money" are blemishes that are difficult to forgive.


    The album seriously lacks cohesion, which is fine for any old album but not for anything labeled a classic.



    It is just too commercial for most, myself included. I get he wanted his payday and he got it... But he somewhat sacrificed the quality of that album to get it.


    Aiight RANT/
  • StoneColdMikey
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    Tha Carter II
    Carter 3 didn't have that fly in fly out ? cuz that was suppose to be a milli. But that song blew up lol
  • Peace_79
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    Tha Carter I
    Listened to a Mili yesterday for the first time in years.

    Bruh, that track in the whip >>>>

    His lyrics and flow were perfect for that song.
  • AP21
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    Tha Carter II
    Carter 3 didn't have that fly in fly out ? cuz that was suppose to be a milli. But that song blew up lol

    well he should've named the album something else. He had a pretty dope formula with the first two installments. Some of his best bars were spit on the fly in/out interludes.

    Im'a just post the entire verse. I couldnt even decide which part to cut and paste. This whole ? is fiyah

    So you made it...this far
    We upstairs, I let you up here
    You special, Marley, don't shoot
    You know what this is?
    Still Tha Carter 2 people
    Yeah, you still in Tha Carter 2 people

    All I have in this world is a pistol and a promise
    A fist full of dollars, a list full of problems
    I'll address them like P.O. boxes
    Yeah I'm from New Orleans, the Creole cockpit
    We so out of it, zero tolerance
    Gangsta gumbo, I'll serve 'em a ? of it
    I'm wealthy, still ? with that block ?
    Wet your ass up, head to feet til your sock drip
    Don't slip, you might fall and bust your ass
    No snakes at the Carter, tell the gardener cut the grass
    I hear 'em but they talking under masks
    Stop throwing pebbles at a bulletproof glass
    That's Cash Money, honey pie
    We ain't running, we don't hide, screaming ? the other side
    Don't get caught on it, this the deadliest grinds
    I put your heart on it and walk on it
    The chalk's only for the art homie
    How they trace ya after I erase ya
    Look around, we at war and you still in preparation
    I'm riding for them reparations, no patience
    Slow paper is better than no paper
    Fast money don't last too long, you gotta pace it
    You gotta know that paper
    If you got it from a caper, gotta blow that paper
    Gotta know that, photo phobia, no Kodak moments
    Feds' walls with my pictures on 'em
    Nah, I ain't even in the school yearbook
    I don't do too much posing, got a cool killer look
    Career crook, get your career took
    I'm back like a brassiere hook
    ? cheer, camouflage gear, the hunter's here
    Better play it by ear, you ain't nothing but a deer
    Around here and this here is Tha Carter
    Serve it while it's hot out the ? to your mama
    And Slim tell me ain't nobody hotter
    But get your boy some dipping sauce, I want the whole enchilada
    I got 'em by the collar, watch me drop 'em
    On the head at the bottom
    You ain't gotta shoot 'em cause I already shot 'em
    And I ain't gotta get 'em cause I already got 'em
    Get 'em, get 'em, get 'em
  • Peace_79
    Peace_79 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tha Carter I
    All them ? were dope af.

    And the whole Carter II Is flames
  • AggieLean.
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    Tha Carter I
    Had to go with C1. Mannie did his thing on the boards, and Wayne was spittin'. C2 was cool, and had a few bangers, but I wasn't really feeling a lot of the beats on that one. C3's replay value was horrible, and the beats weren't that great.
  • lookdude
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    When I heard hustlers musik I became a fan
  • macadonwoo
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    Tha Carter I
    C1 easily ! , cause Manny was still on the boards.
  • Bcotton5
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    Tha Carter I
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    Man I remember omw to high school when the Carter 1 dropped straight flames!!!

    LOVE THAT ALBUM MAN

    fav track is "who wanna"

    man he murked who wanna every verse is full of quoteables


    dump toys boy
    at ya punk boy toy
    take the pump out the trunk
    take a chunk out a chump whoa!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpZg0_r9Gxk

    Didn't kno jam master well but I rock with my shells on

    And the block still a hell zone
    Get a helmet for you and ya gals dome
    I suggest!
  • Peace_79
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    Tha Carter I
    It's a crime how much y'all sleep on C3! It was hard to pick, toss up between C2 and C3 but....

    3Peat?
    A milli?
    Dr Carter?
    Let the beat build?
    You ain't got nothin'?
    Dontgetit?

    Plus ya boy got some ? to Mrs Officer!!!!!!

    Yeah.
    But it also had "Got Money" and "Phone Home" ...

    As an album, I personally can't see how y'all even consider C3 over C1 or C2.

    Just me though