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BT: Floyd, a lot of young fighters look at your career as the blueprint to success. If you could give them some advice on how to navigate the ups and downs of this tough sport, what would it be?

FM: There's a lot of young fighters out there that are real young. I mean, you have a lot of young guys out there that can fight their ass off. There was a young kid the other day that I seen in my boxing gym that was working. I don't even know his name. He's like the top amateur in the country. Small guy. Very, very, I mean, reminds me of myself when I was young. You got fighters that are 16 and 17 that want to turn professional. I tell them to focus on school. That's what's important. School is important. My dad is working with a little young fighter that's a hell of a fighter; little 16-year-old kid, Devin Haney, little young kid. Do I want to promote the kid? Absolutely, but I think right now, at the age of 16, what's very important is education. Education is very, very, very important for these kids. I wasn't fortunate enough; you know what happened with me. My mother was on drugs. I didn't come up in a stable home. My father went to prison. When I was 16, I was on my own. I had to become a man at the age of 16. But everyone, all these kids are rushing to turn professional. Professional boxing is wear and tear on the body, honestly. To all fighters that's reading this interview right now, remember, the most important thing about boxing is not taking punishment; dishing it out, but not taking punishment.

BT: To avoid taking that punishment though, you've got to have the right tools, the right technique, and the right team in place. Do you think this younger generation of fighters are getting the type of training and promotion they need to prepare them for a long, successful career in this sport?

FM: There's a lot of good trainers out there that don't get credit. Eddie Mustafa Muhammad is a good trainer. We have another guy that we're working with that fought Roy Jones, Lou Del Valle, he's a hell of a boxing trainer. Cornelius Boza Edwards, you know, he played a major, major role in my career. He never gets the credit that's due. When I was with Top Rank as a fighter, he was working in the Top Rank office. He was really the matchmaker. Believe it or not, Boza Edwards was really the matchmaker. That's who was the matchmaker at Top Rank when I was over there. They can speak about certain individuals, but I know Boza used to do all the ground work.

BT: Man, that seems like such a long time ago when you were with Top Rank.

FM: Yes, very long ago. I was a professional fighter for 19 years. I was with a promoter who I thought wanted the best for me. When it was all said and done, the promoter only wanted what was best for him. My fighting style, I consider my style world-wide, so if a promoter was to promote, I would want to spread out and be promoted everywhere. That's the only thing I wanted. I didn't want to just be promoted in one area, but that's what they do, and they didn't even promote me in the urban market. I was a fighter that was promoted in the Spanish and Latino area only instead of my promoter stepping outside the box going to find someone that can help take me to the next level in the urban community and worldwide. You gotta realize, sometimes you gotta spend a certain amount because you gotta look at the bigger picture and see what you're going to make long-term and on the backend. I'm not just saying this just to say this. If I was a fighter right now in this era, these fighters think, "Just because I'm with Al Haymon, I'ma get the same perks Floyd Mayweather got. Just because I'm with Al Haymon, I'ma have the same type of Bugatti." This took years and years and years of hard work, not just inside the ring, not just in the boxing gym, but outside the ring with me and Al working day in and day out, up late, us working together as a team. That's how we got to where we got to.

BT: You mentioned not being promoted in the urban market. There are black fighters that are technically better than others inside the ring, but they have a more difficult time being marketed and really crossing over outside of the ring. Why is that?

FM: Give me an example!

BT: Okay, take someone like Errol Spence, or better yet, Terence Crawford?

FM: I know Terence Crawford, right, but tell me who else knows Terence Crawford? I can't never take nothing away from Terence Crawford. I'm proud of him. He's been going out there day in and day out doing what he's supposed to do. And Errol Spence, you know, he's a hell of a fighter, right. Inside the ring, he's going to go out there and do what he's supposed to do, but at the end of the day, it takes more than just being able to fight inside the ring. You have to have a certain look, you have to have a certain charisma, and if you don't have that, you got to have a promoter that can put you in that position to take you to the next level. I mean, you got fighters out there that get a couple dollars, they get a couple pair of shoes, they may get 'em a pair of Christian Louboutins, they got 18 pairs of Jordans now in they closet, got 'em a little girlfriend and went and bought 'em a nice pair of shades. That's when you know; whether it's a fighter or any other entertainer, once they buy the shades, that's when they think they made it. These fighters think, "I'm 20 and 0 with 19 knockouts. I'm fighting on TV. I made a couple hundred thousand. I done went and bought me some jewelry, I got a Benz, I got a nice little house I live in. I made it." Well I'm here to tell you, you didn't make it!

Like I said before, once again, I think these fighters get misled. They think, "Oh yeah, I can fight, so I'ma be rich." It doesn't work like that. What you're going to do is you're going to make some cool money and you're going to go to level 45. You want to reach level 100, but you're going to stay at 45. You can still be a million dollar fighter and you can be undefeated. If he's happy with making a million dollars or 1.5 [million], if he's content with that, then I take my hat off to him, congratulations, but me, I don't believe in settling for less. All I gotta say is this, look at all of these fighters. When guys get a nice timepiece or a nice [Mercedes-Benz] S550, they get some chains, you know, they get a little entourage and they feel they made it. I mean, to each their own. Some are content with that. Me, I wasn't content. People always ask me, "Floyd, what was the limit for you?" I said, there wasn't no limit. I was never moved by a car. I was never moved by a watch or nothing. Without none of that stuff, I just had the will to win just in life, period. When you got the will to win, nothing else matters.

BT: Is there anyone out there now who might have all the traits you mentioned to make it to level 100?

FM: We have a lot of fighters that's under our banner that we're trying to take to that next level. They ask, "Who's the next Floyd Mayweather?" There will never be another Floyd Mayweather, but we will try to get as close as possible to finding the next Floyd Mayweather.

Ether bat..

Only ? thought Canelo would beat Floyd.

What Weidman, and every other truly great offensive fighter has been able to do is cut off the ring. This means that when the opponent steps to your right, you step with your right foot to make sure you're still crowding them and vice versa. Stepping straight in is a commitment of the weight to an attack and just gives the opponent the opportunity to get away. Norman Mailer called it 'a balletic art' and it's true that there is a great deal more subtlety and grace to offensive footwork than the casual observer would imagine. For instance, notice here that while Lyoto Machida is doing exactly what the outfighter should do to get off the cage—changing direction and attempting to fake Weidman into committing to one side—it is Machida who is tiring himself out, doing all the extra work, while Weidman is just making small movements to keep The Dragon in front of him.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/how-holly-holm-killed-queen-ronda-rousey

buttuh_b wrote: »

Everyone was saying Floyd was gonna duck Canelo. People really thought Canelo could beat Floyd. That's why it did so many buys.

Exactly. that fight did 2.2 mill ppv buys, you rarely see fights do that much.

ethos wrote: »

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BT: Floyd, a lot of young fighters look at your career as the blueprint to success. If you could give them some advice on how to navigate the ups and downs of this tough sport, what would it be?

FM: There's a lot of young fighters out there that are real young. I mean, you have a lot of young guys out there that can fight their ass off. There was a young kid the other day that I seen in my boxing gym that was working. I don't even know his name. He's like the top amateur in the country. Small guy. Very, very, I mean, reminds me of myself when I was young. You got fighters that are 16 and 17 that want to turn professional. I tell them to focus on school. That's what's important. School is important. My dad is working with a little young fighter that's a hell of a fighter; little 16-year-old kid, Devin Haney, little young kid. Do I want to promote the kid? Absolutely, but I think right now, at the age of 16, what's very important is education. Education is very, very, very important for these kids. I wasn't fortunate enough; you know what happened with me. My mother was on drugs. I didn't come up in a stable home. My father went to prison. When I was 16, I was on my own. I had to become a man at the age of 16. But everyone, all these kids are rushing to turn professional. Professional boxing is wear and tear on the body, honestly. To all fighters that's reading this interview right now, remember, the most important thing about boxing is not taking punishment; dishing it out, but not taking punishment.

BT: To avoid taking that punishment though, you've got to have the right tools, the right technique, and the right team in place. Do you think this younger generation of fighters are getting the type of training and promotion they need to prepare them for a long, successful career in this sport?

FM: There's a lot of good trainers out there that don't get credit. Eddie Mustafa Muhammad is a good trainer. We have another guy that we're working with that fought Roy Jones, Lou Del Valle, he's a hell of a boxing trainer. Cornelius Boza Edwards, you know, he played a major, major role in my career. He never gets the credit that's due. When I was with Top Rank as a fighter, he was working in the Top Rank office. He was really the matchmaker. Believe it or not, Boza Edwards was really the matchmaker. That's who was the matchmaker at Top Rank when I was over there. They can speak about certain individuals, but I know Boza used to do all the ground work.

BT: Man, that seems like such a long time ago when you were with Top Rank.

FM: Yes, very long ago. I was a professional fighter for 19 years. I was with a promoter who I thought wanted the best for me. When it was all said and done, the promoter only wanted what was best for him. My fighting style, I consider my style world-wide, so if a promoter was to promote, I would want to spread out and be promoted everywhere. That's the only thing I wanted. I didn't want to just be promoted in one area, but that's what they do, and they didn't even promote me in the urban market. I was a fighter that was promoted in the Spanish and Latino area only instead of my promoter stepping outside the box going to find someone that can help take me to the next level in the urban community and worldwide. You gotta realize, sometimes you gotta spend a certain amount because you gotta look at the bigger picture and see what you're going to make long-term and on the backend. I'm not just saying this just to say this. If I was a fighter right now in this era, these fighters think, "Just because I'm with Al Haymon, I'ma get the same perks Floyd Mayweather got. Just because I'm with Al Haymon, I'ma have the same type of Bugatti." This took years and years and years of hard work, not just inside the ring, not just in the boxing gym, but outside the ring with me and Al working day in and day out, up late, us working together as a team. That's how we got to where we got to.

BT: You mentioned not being promoted in the urban market. There are black fighters that are technically better than others inside the ring, but they have a more difficult time being marketed and really crossing over outside of the ring. Why is that?

FM: Give me an example!

BT: Okay, take someone like Errol Spence, or better yet, Terence Crawford?

FM: I know Terence Crawford, right, but tell me who else knows Terence Crawford? I can't never take nothing away from Terence Crawford. I'm proud of him. He's been going out there day in and day out doing what he's supposed to do. And Errol Spence, you know, he's a hell of a fighter, right. Inside the ring, he's going to go out there and do what he's supposed to do, but at the end of the day, it takes more than just being able to fight inside the ring. You have to have a certain look, you have to have a certain charisma, and if you don't have that, you got to have a promoter that can put you in that position to take you to the next level. I mean, you got fighters out there that get a couple dollars, they get a couple pair of shoes, they may get 'em a pair of Christian Louboutins, they got 18 pairs of Jordans now in they closet, got 'em a little girlfriend and went and bought 'em a nice pair of shades. That's when you know; whether it's a fighter or any other entertainer, once they buy the shades, that's when they think they made it. These fighters think, "I'm 20 and 0 with 19 knockouts. I'm fighting on TV. I made a couple hundred thousand. I done went and bought me some jewelry, I got a Benz, I got a nice little house I live in. I made it." Well I'm here to tell you, you didn't make it!

Like I said before, once again, I think these fighters get misled. They think, "Oh yeah, I can fight, so I'ma be rich." It doesn't work like that. What you're going to do is you're going to make some cool money and you're going to go to level 45. You want to reach level 100, but you're going to stay at 45. You can still be a million dollar fighter and you can be undefeated. If he's happy with making a million dollars or 1.5 [million], if he's content with that, then I take my hat off to him, congratulations, but me, I don't believe in settling for less. All I gotta say is this, look at all of these fighters. When guys get a nice timepiece or a nice [Mercedes-Benz] S550, they get some chains, you know, they get a little entourage and they feel they made it. I mean, to each their own. Some are content with that. Me, I wasn't content. People always ask me, "Floyd, what was the limit for you?" I said, there wasn't no limit. I was never moved by a car. I was never moved by a watch or nothing. Without none of that stuff, I just had the will to win just in life, period. When you got the will to win, nothing else matters.

BT: Is there anyone out there now who might have all the traits you mentioned to make it to level 100?

FM: We have a lot of fighters that's under our banner that we're trying to take to that next level. They ask, "Who's the next Floyd Mayweather?" There will never be another Floyd Mayweather, but we will try to get as close as possible to finding the next Floyd Mayweather.

Ether bat..

subliminal ether at Broner

Vader_F_Kennedy wrote: »

Can't believe this dude said he canelo was too young smh like canelo wasn't calling out Floyd and ppl wasn't saying he was the ONE if he was too young why didn't u tell your fighter to wait a couple fight s before facing him

Like I told that dude in here a few months ago. Name me one fighter in the history of boxing who was still considered too young or green after 43 fights.

Nobody can name that type of fighter people just say any ? thing to take credit away from Floyd. Floyd has literally ? a lot of peoples heads up permanently without being a power puncher LLS

FLOYD MAYWEATHER OFFERS TO HELP RONDA ROUSEY WITH HER BOXING SKILLS; SPEAKS IN-DEPTH ABOUT HER LOSS
By Ben Thompson | November 16, 2015FLOYD MAYWEATHER OFFERS TO HELP RONDA ROUSEY WITH HER BOXING SKILLS; SPEAKS IN-DEPTH ABOUT HER LOSS
"I'm proud of the new girl, Holly, and I'm proud of Ronda...I commend Dana White and the Fertitta brothers for being able to take a female and make her so huge in a contact sport. I commend them for that, but she had to do her part also, and she did her part," stated retired undefeated former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who spoke in-depth about Ronda Rousey's 2nd round knockout loss to newly-crowned UFC women's bantamweight champion Holly Holm. Check it out!

BT: Floyd, obviously you know about the outcome of Rousey vs. Holm, but did you get a chance to see the fight?

FM: I mean, I've seen different highlights. I've heard certain things. Everybody that's around me is on social media extremely heavy. The new generation, they're on social media a lot. One thing that was very interesting, someone came to me and showed me an interview where she was talking about me, not in a bad way, but in a good way actually, talking about her coach, I guess, always brings my name up. Her coach likes my fighting style and was talking about the shoulder roll and was talking about some other things in the interview, which was positive. I'm proud of the new girl, Holly, and I'm proud of Ronda. She's only been here for a very, very short time and she's built a great fanbase, and she did it with not so many fights.

BT: Do you think people will be surprised to hear you say that given some of the comments that Ronda Rousey made about you in the past?

FM: I mean, even with the things that Ronda Rousey said about me, sometimes we need to be guided in the right way. Do I think that she really meant what she said? Absolutely not. You know, it's crazy, to get to where I got to, I didn't have no sponsors. I mean, today, people are overnight sensations. I commend Dana White and the Fertitta brothers for being able to take a female and make her so huge in a contact sport. I commend them for that, but she had to do her part also, and she did her part. If I was her, I would've used Floyd Mayweather's name also. She's supposed to do that. It's business, it's not personal, and I understand business.

BT: Do you think the back and forth between you two was something blown out of proportion by the media?

FM: I think that the media plays a major part and they cut and chop and show only what they want to show. I just find it extremely funny that they say certain things about me. They come at me many different ways trying to discourage me, trying to defeat me, trying to discredit me. It's no different from in the past, you know, sometimes you say certain things and you don't mean what you say. We're only human, we make mistakes, and like I said before, I apologize for not knowing who she was at one particular time. That just shows you how focused I was on my craft. When they said, "Floyd Mayweather didn't know who you were," at one particular time, my comment back would have been, "Well, in due time, he'll know. The world will know." I don't have anything against anyone. A lot of times I speak, I speak from the heart. I think we have to conduct ourselves better. There's just little small things that I think can hurt you in the long run.

BT: A lot of people made a big deal about Rousey not touching gloves with Holm prior to the fight. They say her knockout was karma for showing poor sportsmanship, not just to Holm, but to other fighters in the past. You were known for talking trash to opponents leading up to fights, but you always showed them respect when the fight was over. As a fighter, I know you're not supposed to respect your opponent when the bell rings, so do you think Rousey should be criticized for not touching gloves?

FM: I mean, I just feel like if you was touching gloves from the beginning, I think just because you make more money and you got commercials now and you're the female face of MMA, I think it's only right, whatever you was doing from the beginning, you should continue to do. If you didn't do it from the beginning, I mean, I think a person should be who they are all the way through. Everybody's always talking about this person needs to be in a humbling experience. Being humble is really knowing where your blessings come from. I have my own relationship with ? . I mean, I don't have to go to church every Sunday for a pastor to tell me about my own relationship with ? .

Like me, I think that I'm a better person now as far as maturing because I've grown mentally. I just really look at life totally different as I get older. Even with my children, everybody worry about having children that look good instead of worrying about having a child that's healthy and smart. I think in a black household, they think that beating a child, that's the only discipline. I never had to whoop my child. I communicate with my children because I was a child that was beaten by my father and I was scared to go to my dad and communicate with him about a lot of things that was going on in my life. I was too scared to talk to him about it. It was a lot of drastic situations that I wanted to tell my dad about, but I was too scared. I thought I was going to get beat or get whooped. That's why I don't beat or whoop my children because I want them to be able to come to me and be able to communicate and talk to me about anything in life. Everything is a learning experience.

BT: Some people think there should be an immediate rematch. Obviously you've never experienced losing in such a manner, but as a former fighter, or even as a promoter, do you think it's a good idea for her to jump right back into a rematch after suffering a knockout loss like that?

FM: Me as a former fighter, I think that she needs some time off to regroup and refocus. I think they're rushing her. They need to build Ronda Rousey back up, her confidence back up, even though I think she's probably still confident. Let Holly fight, defend the title a few times, and build it. That's what I would do, looking at it as being a former fighter and now promoter. I wouldn't rush it. What I would do, I would put them on the same card fighting against different opponents and then slowly build it up. It's all about timing. That's what I did with the Pacquiao fight. The fight went from me making 100 million to me making 300 million, so it's all about timing.

BT: Champ, I hear you're about to get on your plane. Is there anything else you want to say before you have to go?

FM: I want Ronda Rousey to hold her head up high and don't let this discourage you. If you need help as far as with boxing, I'm here to help you. It's all about timing and inches. Her ground game is unbelievable. She'll be okay. You know, but I'm waiting for the comeback of Jon Jones and the other guy that Jon Jones faced before [Daniel Cormier]. I would love to sponsor those guys. I look forward to working with a lot of MMA fighters as far as teaching them boxing techniques. It's the little small things in contact sports that can take you to that next level.

The WBC stripped Cotto of his title

He didnt wanna pay 300k and already paid GGG in step aside money

in other news Ward dropped his belts an is officially at 175

JLacey wrote: »

playmaker88 wrote: »

He didnt wanna pay 300k and already paid GGG in step aside money

in other news Ward dropped his belts an is officially at 175

And Kovalev gonna beat his ass when they finally fight

Regardless all props to Ward for stepping up towards his biggest challenge in boxing, period... unfortunately not all cut out from the same cloth...lil g just not it