Was Spike Lee Wrong For Making 'Chiraq' A Satire?
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With all the controversy around the movie I was interested in knowing the I.C's take on it. Below is videos from both side of the argument , one from Spike himself and the other from a Chicago native (Rhymefest) who both make good points.
Was Spike Lee Wrong For Making 'Chiraq' A Satire? 58 votes
Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke about
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No, a film maker has the right to make anything he likes creatively
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36 votes
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Goat without even watching
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Bout ? time he Updated the Intro on his videos...
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Rhymefest want ? to know he still getting checks outchea though lol
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I get some of the criticisms about authenticity to an extent, but I prefer to hear some specific criticisms of the content of the film. Where exactly does the film go wrong in terms of its content? The point about satire isn't very compelling to me because I have no problem with someone using satire to draw attention to the absurdity of a situation. Satire in and of itself isn't enough for me to be worried about the content. I'll need to hear more about why the satire is used ineffectively / disrespectfully in the film.
I haven't seen the film yet, but so far, very little of the controversy surrounding the film has led me to believe that it's got things terribly wrong, especially since a lot of its critics haven't even seen the film. -
fortyacres wrote: »im confused by what rhymefest is mad about?
it seems like chicagoans dont understand satire
Kids are being killed daily.
Whats satirical about that -
Why them Chicago ? not on sway trying to stop the violence. The irony of being out raged at the movie. Would there be outrage if this was a Midwest boys in the hood. Prolly not.
Side note. ? ain't say a word bout bamboozled. Lotta entertainers should been made
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Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutI literally just watched the trailer on TV and thought to myself "I hope this ? aint satire". We don't need that ? right now.
Gotta actually watch before completely criticizing.#a
But nothing really funny about what's going on out there.
? killing each other off like Siamese fighting fish. Its a problem.
Watching the vid. Im not feeling spikes angst about it. He's dead wrong. Rhymefest absolutely right. This some ? ? . -
No, a film maker has the right to make anything he likes creativelyIf Martin Scorsese had made this ? would be praising the film as a classic. And not one ? from Chicago would have said a thing negative about it.
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KingFreeman wrote: »I literally just watched the trailer on TV and thought to myself "I hope this ? aint satire". We don't need that ? right now.
Gotta actually watch before completely criticizing.#a
But nothing really funny about what's going on out there.
? killing each other off like Siamese fighting fish. Its a problem.
Watching the vid. Im not feeling spikes angst about it. He's dead wrong. Rhymefest absolutely right. This some ? ? .
Thing is though Bamboozled was a satire as well but the movie wasn't funny it was straight serious ? basically the whole movie.
I don't have a problem with it being a satire and matter of fact I'm going to see it tonight or sometime this weekend!
Also its not like he needed to make another Boyz n da Hood, Menace II Society, Colors type of film. Spike came with a different approach and people ? on the whole movie based on a 1min and some change trailer. Like that makes a lot of ? sense. Yet these same folks want to tell people don't judge them by how they look without getting to know them.
Think about what some of yall are saying before even seeing the movie. You can not like the trailer but to ? on a whole movie that you haven't seen is kinda of ? up. -
Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutSpike Lee is overrated, don't know why people sweat his movies, they just ok, ? caught up in nostalgia
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Interesting topic.
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Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutIf spike or someone turned around and made a satire about that ? in Paris a lot of people would be in their feelings and you ? wouldn't be talking about his creative freedoms. Ijs. But again I haven't seen the film so...
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Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutIf Martin Scorsese had made this ? would be praising the film as a classic. And not one ? from Chicago would have said a thing negative about it.
Would Scorsese make a satire about the ? tho??? -
Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutfortyacres wrote: »KingFreeman wrote: »If spike or someone turned around and made a satire about that ? in Paris a lot of people would be in their feelings and you ? wouldn't be talking about his creative freedoms. Ijs. But again I haven't seen the film so...
still does not make the criticism right , its not about comparing tragedies. Satire magazines and comedians still made and are making material based on those paris attacks.
its not like its the first satire made about world tragedies.
if its smart and delivers whatever message across then there should be no problem
Any links to the ? your talking about? -
Ppl think satire means he's making light of the situation.
If u watch the movie, you'll see that it's actually very dramatic and heartfelt -
Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutFull disclosure - Ive never been to Chicago and I haven't seen the movie..
But I have seen the trailer and heard reactions and reviews such as this one. I also know the hurt that city is going through
To me it's incredibly disrespectful and disengenous to make a satire, of all things, about the devastation being experienced in that area.
I mean - the name itself is inflammatory.
It seems to be the epitome of gross generalization to no positive end aside from money changing hands ..
All men in the Chi are savages?
All a woman has to offer is her body?
Almost amazed that this got funding
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Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke about...horrible timing
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? dont understand satire and have not seen the movie.
Jennifer Hudson and Angela Basset give serious dramatic performances, but y'all will never know because it's a 'satire'
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Full disclosure - Ive never been to Chicago and I haven't seen the movie..
But I have seen the trailer and heard reactions and reviews such as this one. I also know the hurt that city is going through
To me it's incredibly disrespectful and disengenous to make a satire, of all things, about the devastation being experienced in that area.
I mean - the name itself is inflammatory.
It seems to be the epitome of gross generalization to no positive end aside from money changing hands ..
All men in the Chi are savages?
All a woman has to offer is her body?
Almost amazed that this got funding
Yeah that's exactly what Spike was getting at... Smh -
No, a film maker has the right to make anything he likes creativelyyou just cant please ?
say he had done a documentary...dudes would've still been mad
he just cant win...then again, a lot of these young dudes giving Spike ? probably havent watched any of his early work so it goes over their heads
they want everything to look like a Slim Jesus/ Chief Keef video -
No, a film maker has the right to make anything he likes creativelyRhymefest can shut up
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Full disclosure - Ive never been to Chicago and I haven't seen the movie..
But I have seen the trailer and heard reactions and reviews such as this one. I also know the hurt that city is going through
To me it's incredibly disrespectful and disengenous to make a satire, of all things, about the devastation being experienced in that area.
I mean - the name itself is inflammatory.
It seems to be the epitome of gross generalization to no positive end aside from money changing hands ..
All men in the Chi are savages?
All a woman has to offer is her body?
Almost amazed that this got funding
With knowing the definition of satire you still feel this way about the movie
Full Definition of satire
a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly
If so why?
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And Chicago ? need to get off that ?
Like they touch on in the movie, black kids getting killed all over the country...
The movie could have been set in Baltimore or Philly -
Yes, the situation in Chicago is too serious to joke aboutI admit that I haven't seen the movie, so I could be completely off base about it.
Just my initial opinion, given the information I have
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