Ladies, do you find that hip hop and rnb are getting more disrespectful?
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A Talented One
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I wanna hear women's opinion on this, cause after hearing more rnb cats, in particular, singing about 'hoes,' I'm starting to think that it has gotten worse.
If it has indeed gotten worse, what do you think should be done about it?
If it has indeed gotten worse, what do you think should be done about it?
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They like it. And im pretty sure the Death Row era was worse
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In B4 this gets moved to the powder room.
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I find the lack of singing more offensive
And since you jungle ? don't go to church anymore there's a lack of soulfulness -
They like it. And im pretty sure the Death Row era was worse
Idk, maybe with hip hop. But I think rnb has gotten worse. Cats weren't singing about '? ' and 'hoes' back in the day. -
I don't like that music is so disrespectful to women. Especially R&B.
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Cause I Be Strokin and Let's Get It On are Christmas carols compared to Juice Box or Back That Azz Up. No Older music is not any better in terms of content older generations overlook their fuckery to chastise up and coming
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T/s has all my single ladies as his ringtone
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Young Stef wrote: »Cause I Be Strokin and Let's Get It On are Christmas carols compared to Juice Box or Back That Azz Up. No Older music is not any better in terms of content older generations overlook their fuckery to chastise up and coming
generations.
I agree that the content back in the day was just as suggestive, the difference to me is that they were more creative with it back then. It wasnt so blatant and in your face..the wordplay and innuendo kept it sexy without being sleazy.
Now days it's just too much. It's nasty and lacks creativity. -
I find the lack of singing more offensive
And since you jungle ? don't go to church anymore there's a lack of soulfulness
lol @ ? music losing it's soul cuz they quit singing/worshiping a make believe ? .
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Young Stef wrote: »Cause I Be Strokin and Let's Get It On are Christmas carols compared to Juice Box or Back That Azz Up. No Older music is not any better in terms of content older generations overlook their fuckery to chastise up and coming
generations.
Them songs was no where near disrespectful as these new songs. -
Hoes been trickin' themselves since forever.
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I find the lack of singing more offensive
And since you jungle ? don't go to church anymore there's a lack of soulfulness
Well ladies prefer the look of their singers vs how well they can sing so.... -
I don't listen to Hip-Hop like I used too. The younger me enjoyed it; but I was also ignorant at that time, especially socially. Hip-Hop is right next to the porn industry in the amount of sexism that it projects, and their is no other culture thats as sexist as the porn industry, but what makes Hip-Hop unique is that Hip-Hop suffers greatly from misogynoir; the culture projects an anti-Black female rhetoric, and no one has a problem with it. The last Hip-Hop album I purchased was Kendrick's last album (before then I haven't purchase a Hip-Hop record since maybe the early '00), but even then it was greatly projected with the elements I just described. If I find myself listening to any Hip-Hop its Lauryn Hill, Fugees, Nas, Dead Prez, some Pas stuff, Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, and De La Soul; generally 90s stuff with a balance. My ears have adapted now towards R&B and Jazz, referring to drug culture, calling women ? and hoes, degrading black women, gets played out as you mature; especially for women.
The culture of Hip-Hop today is in a worse state than it has ever been. Today, it glorifies non-black women like a normalcy. I can't look at any mainstream rap videos and see a black woman. Yet, when I go look at white videos I see nothing but white women, even white artist who culturally appropriate black culture don't use non-white women.
There is generally no R&B thats mainstream today; if you consider Chris Brown R&B then... but even he doesn't use Black women in his videos unless for props... But yeah, I'm pretty much over Hip-Hop of today, these rappers ain't talking about nothing, they all sound the same, rapping about the same ? . But in the end they are all anti-Black female.
I was watching something on the Oprah O.W.N network a while back that was discussing Hip-Hop, and a white guy that was discussing it made a good point, which was Black male rappers claim to be so proud to be black, yet when he looks at their videos he don't see black women at all. He see's women who look closer racially to him. I believe it was on that documentary Oprah had about race. Anyway, he made a great point...
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Lol..says the Tinashe superfan. -
They will sing bout eating ass with no ? given Smh
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Billy Paul's me & Mrs Jones was about a hoe.... He just didn't say it
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Young Stef wrote: »Cause I Be Strokin and Let's Get It On are Christmas carols compared to Juice Box or Back That Azz Up. No Older music is not any better in terms of content older generations overlook their fuckery to chastise up and coming
generations.
I agree that the content back in the day was just as suggestive, the difference to me is that they were more creative with it back then. It wasnt so blatant and in your face..the wordplay and innuendo kept it sexy without being sleazy.
Now days it's just too much. It's nasty and lacks creativity.
Back in the day it was discreet today they will say bluntly ? and its a bad look. -
I don't listen to Hip-Hop like I used too. The younger me enjoyed it; but I was also ignorant at that time, especially socially. Hip-Hop is right next to the porn industry in the amount of sexism that it projects, and their is no other culture thats as sexist as the porn industry, but what makes Hip-Hop unique is that Hip-Hop suffers greatly from misogynoir; the culture projects an anti-Black female rhetoric, and no one has a problem with it. The last Hip-Hop album I purchased was Kendrick's last album (before then I haven't purchase a Hip-Hop record since maybe the early '00), but even then it was greatly projected with the elements I just described. If I find myself listening to any Hip-Hop its Lauryn Hill, Fugees, Nas, Dead Prez, some Pas stuff, Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, and De La Soul; generally 90s stuff with a balance. My ears have adapted now towards R&B and Jazz, referring to drug culture, calling women ? and hoes, degrading black women, gets played out as you mature; especially for women.
The culture of Hip-Hop today is in a worse state than it has ever been. Today, it glorifies non-black women like a normalcy. I can't look at any mainstream rap videos and see a black woman. Yet, when I go look at white videos I see nothing but white women, even white artist who culturally appropriate black culture don't use non-white women.
There is generally no R&B thats mainstream today; if you consider Chris Brown R&B then... but even he doesn't use Black women in his videos unless for props... But yeah, I'm pretty much over Hip-Hop of today, these rappers ain't talking about nothing, they all sound the same, rapping about the same ? . But in the end they are all anti-Black female.
I was watching something on the Oprah O.W.N network a while back that was discussing Hip-Hop, and a white guy that was discussing it made a good point, which was Black male rappers claim to be so proud to be black, yet when he looks at their videos he don't see black women at all. He see's women who look closer racially to him. I believe it was on that documentary Oprah had about race. Anyway, he made a great point...
I have been noticing that more and more artists are using non-black women too. I commented on this just yesterday: http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/8605378/#Comment_8605378 But this is a different issue that deserves its own thread. -
A Talented One wrote: »I don't listen to Hip-Hop like I used too. The younger me enjoyed it; but I was also ignorant at that time, especially socially. Hip-Hop is right next to the porn industry in the amount of sexism that it projects, and their is no other culture thats as sexist as the porn industry, but what makes Hip-Hop unique is that Hip-Hop suffers greatly from misogynoir; the culture projects an anti-Black female rhetoric, and no one has a problem with it. The last Hip-Hop album I purchased was Kendrick's last album (before then I haven't purchase a Hip-Hop record since maybe the early '00), but even then it was greatly projected with the elements I just described. If I find myself listening to any Hip-Hop its Lauryn Hill, Fugees, Nas, Dead Prez, some Pas stuff, Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, and De La Soul; generally 90s stuff with a balance. My ears have adapted now towards R&B and Jazz, referring to drug culture, calling women ? and hoes, degrading black women, gets played out as you mature; especially for women.
The culture of Hip-Hop today is in a worse state than it has ever been. Today, it glorifies non-black women like a normalcy. I can't look at any mainstream rap videos and see a black woman. Yet, when I go look at white videos I see nothing but white women, even white artist who culturally appropriate black culture don't use non-white women.
There is generally no R&B thats mainstream today; if you consider Chris Brown R&B then... but even he doesn't use Black women in his videos unless for props... But yeah, I'm pretty much over Hip-Hop of today, these rappers ain't talking about nothing, they all sound the same, rapping about the same ? . But in the end they are all anti-Black female.
I was watching something on the Oprah O.W.N network a while back that was discussing Hip-Hop, and a white guy that was discussing it made a good point, which was Black male rappers claim to be so proud to be black, yet when he looks at their videos he don't see black women at all. He see's women who look closer racially to him. I believe it was on that documentary Oprah had about race. Anyway, he made a great point...
I have been noticing that more and more artists are using non-black women too. I commented on this just yesterday: http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/8605378/#Comment_8605378 But this is different issue that deserves its own thread.
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Young Stef wrote: »Cause I Be Strokin and Let's Get It On are Christmas carols compared to Juice Box or Back That Azz Up. No Older music is not any better in terms of content older generations overlook their fuckery to chastise up and coming
generations.
I agree that the content back in the day was just as suggestive, the difference to me is that they were more creative with it back then. It wasnt so blatant and in your face..the wordplay and innuendo kept it sexy without being sleazy.
Now days it's just too much. It's nasty and lacks creativity.
Example ? Because there was nasty ? in the past too.
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There was nasty content, but like I said, artists were more creative with the presentation. You could actually listen to the ? around kids because they wouldn't really understand the adult innuendos. Now days that ? is just in your face, lewd and crude. It's not sexy, it's trashy.
Not all of course but a very high percentage.
I really liked Ushers Good Kisser because it had that creativity to the lyrics. It was clever and sexy. -
Nah
It's not about who you believe in
It's about that in church there are people willing to nurture and teach young black children how to sing, have stage presence, and in some cases read music
This isn't going to happen at school with Ms Ann
Lol
You think Johnny gill learned how to sing like a slave by simple luck
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Who still watches rap videos?
These ? in here linking up -
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? went left because the idea of family was destroyed.My dad said that ? years ago and I must accept it as the truth.
