Rise of Donald Trump Divides Black Celeberties He calls friends
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Trump is playing his position, he's also friends with the Clinton's. He's sabotaging the Republican party by solidifying himself as the candidate only to self destruct, to allow Hilary no opposition in reaching the office.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »I still think Trump is trolling. There is no way he could seriously being saying all that ? and actually expect to be president even if he really believed them.
I don't see why you feel this way. This is the way a lot the people in his circle feel and talk when they are amongst themselves. Trump is just saying the ? out in the open. Also a lot of white people from all monetary levels and educational levels feel that way.
Obama was really only elected because Bush ? up that bad there was no way another republican was going to be "PUT" (for the clueless VOTED) into office. The same is repeating itself right now. Fools believing all the lies and also the racial aspect of a black man being the figure head of America for 8 years. So called patriots feel that ? has to change.
Once you realize the popular or people's vote doesn't really mean ? when it comes to the presidential election you see why Trump speaks the way he does. The electoral college votes can go to whoever they want them to go to. There is no rule or law saying that the electoral college votes for any state must go to the winner of the popular vote of said state. With Trump knowing that he should really expect that he can win.
Ya'll must not pay much attention to elections. Presidential candidates basically spend their whole runs walking on eggshells trying to avoid angering any group too much. And if they do anger a group, it's only to secure larger support from a bigger group (e.g. candidates will ? on blacks to gain favor from people who dislike or distrust blacks). Trump is basically alienating every minority group out there including white women. There is no way he can win like that. Maybe he gets the Republican party nomination because a significant portion of the base consists of racists, sexist, fanatical Christian xenophobes, but there is no way he wins the presidency like that.
What Trump is saying can win him the republican nomination. Once he has that he has a shot to be the president plain and simple. White women talk that ? but when white men put their foot down majority of those ? fall in line cause they know everything they have starts with their white men. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »I still think Trump is trolling. There is no way he could seriously being saying all that ? and actually expect to be president even if he really believed them.
I don't see why you feel this way. This is the way a lot the people in his circle feel and talk when they are amongst themselves. Trump is just saying the ? out in the open. Also a lot of white people from all monetary levels and educational levels feel that way.
Obama was really only elected because Bush ? up that bad there was no way another republican was going to be "PUT" (for the clueless VOTED) into office. The same is repeating itself right now. Fools believing all the lies and also the racial aspect of a black man being the figure head of America for 8 years. So called patriots feel that ? has to change.
Once you realize the popular or people's vote doesn't really mean ? when it comes to the presidential election you see why Trump speaks the way he does. The electoral college votes can go to whoever they want them to go to. There is no rule or law saying that the electoral college votes for any state must go to the winner of the popular vote of said state. With Trump knowing that he should really expect that he can win.
Ya'll must not pay much attention to elections. Presidential candidates basically spend their whole runs walking on eggshells trying to avoid angering any group too much. And if they do anger a group, it's only to secure larger support from a bigger group (e.g. candidates will ? on blacks to gain favor from people who dislike or distrust blacks). Trump is basically alienating every minority group out there including white women. There is no way he can win like that. Maybe he gets the Republican party nomination because a significant portion of the base consists of racists, sexist, fanatical Christian xenophobes, but there is no way he wins the presidency like that.
What Trump is saying can win him the republican nomination. Once he has that he has a shot to be the president plain and simple. White women talk that ? but when white men put their foot down majority of those ? fall in line cause they know everything they have starts with their white men.
lol No he doesn't. Name one president that went around alienating large chunks of the voting base and won. Hell Hispanics alone are the fastest growing demographic and he pretty much torpedoed the majority of their vote. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »I still think Trump is trolling. There is no way he could seriously being saying all that ? and actually expect to be president even if he really believed them.
I don't see why you feel this way. This is the way a lot the people in his circle feel and talk when they are amongst themselves. Trump is just saying the ? out in the open. Also a lot of white people from all monetary levels and educational levels feel that way.
Obama was really only elected because Bush ? up that bad there was no way another republican was going to be "PUT" (for the clueless VOTED) into office. The same is repeating itself right now. Fools believing all the lies and also the racial aspect of a black man being the figure head of America for 8 years. So called patriots feel that ? has to change.
Once you realize the popular or people's vote doesn't really mean ? when it comes to the presidential election you see why Trump speaks the way he does. The electoral college votes can go to whoever they want them to go to. There is no rule or law saying that the electoral college votes for any state must go to the winner of the popular vote of said state. With Trump knowing that he should really expect that he can win.
Ya'll must not pay much attention to elections. Presidential candidates basically spend their whole runs walking on eggshells trying to avoid angering any group too much. And if they do anger a group, it's only to secure larger support from a bigger group (e.g. candidates will ? on blacks to gain favor from people who dislike or distrust blacks). Trump is basically alienating every minority group out there including white women. There is no way he can win like that. Maybe he gets the Republican party nomination because a significant portion of the base consists of racists, sexist, fanatical Christian xenophobes, but there is no way he wins the presidency like that.
What Trump is saying can win him the republican nomination. Once he has that he has a shot to be the president plain and simple. White women talk that ? but when white men put their foot down majority of those ? fall in line cause they know everything they have starts with their white men.
lol No he doesn't. Name one president that went around alienating large chunks of the voting base and won. Hell Hispanics alone are the fastest growing demographic and he pretty much torpedoed the majority of their vote.
So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you? -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Y'all are quoting Don King and Mike Tyson like anyone with a functioning brain gives af about their opinions.
Mike is actually very ? intelligent..
u realize it once u get past his speech impediment. lol
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So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you?
Individual votes don't matter to much, but voting trends do especially in swing states. A candidate can't turn away damn near every minority group in the country and expect to win. If you disagree, name one president that did that and won. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »
So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you?
Individual votes don't matter to much, but voting trends do especially in swing states. A candidate can't turn away damn near every minority group in the country and expect to win. If you disagree, name one president that did that and won.
None of that matters if the electoral college can give that states vote to whoever they want to regardless of who won the people's vote in that state.
So end the end no matter who gets ? off or how voting trends go that ? doesn't matter if Trump is who the powers that be want to be in office.
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Trump is playing his position, he's also friends with the Clinton's. He's sabotaging the Republican party by solidifying himself as the candidate only to self destruct, to allow Hilary no opposition in reaching the office.
That's been my theory from the jump.
Like he was paid or will have something to gain in the future. -
Trump is playing his position, he's also friends with the Clinton's. He's sabotaging the Republican party by solidifying himself as the candidate only to self destruct, to allow Hilary no opposition in reaching the office.
this ? is all theater. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »
So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you?
Individual votes don't matter to much, but voting trends do especially in swing states. A candidate can't turn away damn near every minority group in the country and expect to win. If you disagree, name one president that did that and won.
None of that matters if the electoral college can give that states vote to whoever they want to regardless of who won the people's vote in that state.
So end the end no matter who gets ? off or how voting trends go that ? doesn't matter if Trump is who the powers that be want to be in office.
My ? , when is the last time a president was elected because an elector went off the reservation and voted against the majority of that state?
That last happened in 1988, and didn't affect the selection of the president at all.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/lessons/davidwalbert7232004-02/electoralcollege.html#2c
On top of that, what you're saying doesn't even work for every state. Some states have laws that require electors to vote along the popular vote in the state. Other states have electors that vote along the popular vote for each county. On top of that electors are voted on by the people, and are typically selected because they will vote along popular lines. So while what you're saying is possible, it's highly unlikely and pretty much never happens, so claiming it is the reason why voting trends don't matter is silly. Especially if you've actually paid attention the past few elections and seen that the presidents that won were the ones in front of those voting trends. -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Y'all are quoting Don King and Mike Tyson like anyone with a functioning brain gives af about their opinions.
Mike is actually very ? intelligent..
u realize it once u get past his speech impediment. lol
That ? is a myth.
He can talk a talk if you willing to listen but the actual life results ain't ? .
Its akin to the old head ? on your street. ? been through it and seen some ? , will even drop bars on you that will blow your mind, ? might not even drink no more but he's still him.
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I'll take Trump over Hillary, yeh I said it. People seemed to forget all the ? Hill & Bill said in 2008 when they went against Obama.
I just really want the establishments to blow up. If Trump wins, the GOP implodes, and the Dems have a meltdown. Maybe we can finally get a third or fourth party -
KingFreeman wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Y'all are quoting Don King and Mike Tyson like anyone with a functioning brain gives af about their opinions.
Mike is actually very ? intelligent..
u realize it once u get past his speech impediment. lol
That ? is a myth.
He can talk a talk if you willing to listen but the actual life results ain't ? .
Its akin to the old head ? on your street. ? been through it and seen some ? , will even drop bars on you that will blow your mind, ? might not even drink no more but he's still him.
But Mike has always been insightful. Even back in the day when he was saying crazy ? , he was dropping jewels. Dude just went back and forth because he was an untreated bipolar person. I ain't saying dude is a genius, but you can't just look at his life and say "Hey, he did a bunch of stupid ? so he's dumb." -
one day you'll understand the game being played here.manofmorehouse wrote: »-murder rates for the nation are down. The only real issue we're seeing on a national level are mass shootings-
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »KingFreeman wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Y'all are quoting Don King and Mike Tyson like anyone with a functioning brain gives af about their opinions.
Mike is actually very ? intelligent..
u realize it once u get past his speech impediment. lol
That ? is a myth.
He can talk a talk if you willing to listen but the actual life results ain't ? .
Its akin to the old head ? on your street. ? been through it and seen some ? , will even drop bars on you that will blow your mind, ? might not even drink no more but he's still him.
But Mike has always been insightful. Even back in the day when he was saying crazy ? , he was dropping jewels. Dude just went back and forth because he was an untreated bipolar person. I ain't saying dude is a genius, but you can't just look at his life and say "Hey, he did a bunch of stupid ? so he's dumb."
Yes I can.
But we can agree to disagree. -
This is the same guy that was sued for discriminating against Black people living in his properties.. also the same guy who took out full page ads calling for the "Central Park 5" to be executed, they were later found not guilty by the way.. Also the same guy who started or helped fuel the "birther conspiracy" against President Obama...
Any Black person that stands by this guy is a fool. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you?
Individual votes don't matter to much, but voting trends do especially in swing states. A candidate can't turn away damn near every minority group in the country and expect to win. If you disagree, name one president that did that and won.
None of that matters if the electoral college can give that states vote to whoever they want to regardless of who won the people's vote in that state.
So end the end no matter who gets ? off or how voting trends go that ? doesn't matter if Trump is who the powers that be want to be in office.
My ? , when is the last time a president was elected because an elector went off the reservation and voted against the majority of that state?
That last happened in 1988, and didn't affect the selection of the president at all.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/lessons/davidwalbert7232004-02/electoralcollege.html#2c
On top of that, what you're saying doesn't even work for every state. Some states have laws that require electors to vote along the popular vote in the state. Other states have electors that vote along the popular vote for each county. On top of that electors are voted on by the people, and are typically selected because they will vote along popular lines. So while what you're saying is possible, it's highly unlikely and pretty much never happens, so claiming it is the reason why voting trends don't matter is silly. Especially if you've actually paid attention the past few elections and seen that the presidents that won were the ones in front of those voting trends.
It don't ? matter the last the ? happened fact of the matter is the ? happened and it can happen again. Which was my whole point.
This from the link that you posted "a state doesn't have to throw all of its electors behind the candidate that receives the most popular votes in that state."
You arguing the likelihood of it happening when all I'm saying that it can happen and has happened. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you?
Individual votes don't matter to much, but voting trends do especially in swing states. A candidate can't turn away damn near every minority group in the country and expect to win. If you disagree, name one president that did that and won.
None of that matters if the electoral college can give that states vote to whoever they want to regardless of who won the people's vote in that state.
So end the end no matter who gets ? off or how voting trends go that ? doesn't matter if Trump is who the powers that be want to be in office.
My ? , when is the last time a president was elected because an elector went off the reservation and voted against the majority of that state?
That last happened in 1988, and didn't affect the selection of the president at all.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/lessons/davidwalbert7232004-02/electoralcollege.html#2c
On top of that, what you're saying doesn't even work for every state. Some states have laws that require electors to vote along the popular vote in the state. Other states have electors that vote along the popular vote for each county. On top of that electors are voted on by the people, and are typically selected because they will vote along popular lines. So while what you're saying is possible, it's highly unlikely and pretty much never happens, so claiming it is the reason why voting trends don't matter is silly. Especially if you've actually paid attention the past few elections and seen that the presidents that won were the ones in front of those voting trends.
It don't ? matter the last the ? happened fact of the matter is the ? happened and it can happen again. Which was my whole point.
This from the link that you posted "a state doesn't have to throw all of its electors behind the candidate that receives the most popular votes in that state."
You arguing the likelihood of it happening when all I'm saying that it can happen and has happened.
No ? . You said that people's votes don't matter and you're using this as the reason why. However, if this ? almost never happens and the one time in recent history where it did happen didn't change anything, it doesn't even come close to supporting the conclusion you made. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
So you one of those that still believes the people's vote matters and determines who will be the president. Are you?
Individual votes don't matter to much, but voting trends do especially in swing states. A candidate can't turn away damn near every minority group in the country and expect to win. If you disagree, name one president that did that and won.
None of that matters if the electoral college can give that states vote to whoever they want to regardless of who won the people's vote in that state.
So end the end no matter who gets ? off or how voting trends go that ? doesn't matter if Trump is who the powers that be want to be in office.
My ? , when is the last time a president was elected because an elector went off the reservation and voted against the majority of that state?
That last happened in 1988, and didn't affect the selection of the president at all.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/lessons/davidwalbert7232004-02/electoralcollege.html#2c
On top of that, what you're saying doesn't even work for every state. Some states have laws that require electors to vote along the popular vote in the state. Other states have electors that vote along the popular vote for each county. On top of that electors are voted on by the people, and are typically selected because they will vote along popular lines. So while what you're saying is possible, it's highly unlikely and pretty much never happens, so claiming it is the reason why voting trends don't matter is silly. Especially if you've actually paid attention the past few elections and seen that the presidents that won were the ones in front of those voting trends.
It don't ? matter the last the ? happened fact of the matter is the ? happened and it can happen again. Which was my whole point.
This from the link that you posted "a state doesn't have to throw all of its electors behind the candidate that receives the most popular votes in that state."
You arguing the likelihood of it happening when all I'm saying that it can happen and has happened.
No ? . You said that people's votes don't matter and you're using this as the reason why. However, if this ? almost never happens and the one time in recent history where it did happen didn't change anything, it doesn't even come close to supporting the conclusion you made.
Actually is does just based off the simple fact that it HAPPENED and can happen AGAIN. The people's vote doesn't ? matter if there are states where there is no law saying the electoral college votes have to go this way because so and so won the popular vote. So if they can vote any way they want how can you say the people's vote matter when in the end the person who won the popular vote can still not be the president?
? almost don't mean a ? thing. I can say I almost ? Rihanna. In the end I didn't so WTF does almost really matter. -
Actually is does just based off the simple fact that it HAPPENED and can happen AGAIN. The people's vote doesn't ? matter if there are states where there is no law saying the electoral college votes have to go this way because so and so won the popular vote. So if they can vote any way they want how can you say the people's vote matter when in the end the person who won the popular vote can still not be the president?
? almost don't mean a ? thing. I can say I almost ? Rihanna. In the end I didn't so WTF does almost really matter.
Does this dumb ? you're saying really make sense to you? Both elections Obama won, he got the popular vote and the electoral vote. How can you say the voters' votes didn't matter because the electors could have conceivably voted against the popular vote? Every president in the past 100+ years got both the popular and electoral vote except Bush when he ran against Gore, and even then, the electors still voted along the popular votes within their states. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Actually is does just based off the simple fact that it HAPPENED and can happen AGAIN. The people's vote doesn't ? matter if there are states where there is no law saying the electoral college votes have to go this way because so and so won the popular vote. So if they can vote any way they want how can you say the people's vote matter when in the end the person who won the popular vote can still not be the president?
? almost don't mean a ? thing. I can say I almost ? Rihanna. In the end I didn't so WTF does almost really matter.
Does this dumb ? you're saying really make sense to you? Both elections Obama won, he got the popular vote and the electoral vote. How can you say the voters' votes didn't matter because the electors could have conceivably voted against the popular vote? Every president in the past 100+ years got both the popular and electoral vote except Bush when he ran against Gore, and even then, the electors still voted along the popular votes within their states.
Can the electoral college vote go against the popular vote? Yes or No? -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Actually is does just based off the simple fact that it HAPPENED and can happen AGAIN. The people's vote doesn't ? matter if there are states where there is no law saying the electoral college votes have to go this way because so and so won the popular vote. So if they can vote any way they want how can you say the people's vote matter when in the end the person who won the popular vote can still not be the president?
? almost don't mean a ? thing. I can say I almost ? Rihanna. In the end I didn't so WTF does almost really matter.
Does this dumb ? you're saying really make sense to you? Both elections Obama won, he got the popular vote and the electoral vote. How can you say the voters' votes didn't matter because the electors could have conceivably voted against the popular vote? Every president in the past 100+ years got both the popular and electoral vote except Bush when he ran against Gore, and even then, the electors still voted along the popular votes within their states.
Can the electoral college vote go against the popular vote? Yes or No?
We've already established that it can.
Has that stopped, every president except Bush from being elected along the popular vote? No. So every president except 1 has been elected along the lines of the popular vote, then clearly the popular vote matters. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Actually is does just based off the simple fact that it HAPPENED and can happen AGAIN. The people's vote doesn't ? matter if there are states where there is no law saying the electoral college votes have to go this way because so and so won the popular vote. So if they can vote any way they want how can you say the people's vote matter when in the end the person who won the popular vote can still not be the president?
? almost don't mean a ? thing. I can say I almost ? Rihanna. In the end I didn't so WTF does almost really matter.
Does this dumb ? you're saying really make sense to you? Both elections Obama won, he got the popular vote and the electoral vote. How can you say the voters' votes didn't matter because the electors could have conceivably voted against the popular vote? Every president in the past 100+ years got both the popular and electoral vote except Bush when he ran against Gore, and even then, the electors still voted along the popular votes within their states.
Can the electoral college vote go against the popular vote? Yes or No?
We've already established that it can.
Has that stopped, every president except Bush from being elected along the popular vote? No. So every president except 1 has been elected along the lines of the popular vote, then clearly the popular vote matters.
That is all.
If one day they decide to go against the popular vote and there is nothing to stop them then that shows the popular vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of it all. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Actually is does just based off the simple fact that it HAPPENED and can happen AGAIN. The people's vote doesn't ? matter if there are states where there is no law saying the electoral college votes have to go this way because so and so won the popular vote. So if they can vote any way they want how can you say the people's vote matter when in the end the person who won the popular vote can still not be the president?
? almost don't mean a ? thing. I can say I almost ? Rihanna. In the end I didn't so WTF does almost really matter.
Does this dumb ? you're saying really make sense to you? Both elections Obama won, he got the popular vote and the electoral vote. How can you say the voters' votes didn't matter because the electors could have conceivably voted against the popular vote? Every president in the past 100+ years got both the popular and electoral vote except Bush when he ran against Gore, and even then, the electors still voted along the popular votes within their states.
Can the electoral college vote go against the popular vote? Yes or No?
We've already established that it can.
Has that stopped, every president except Bush from being elected along the popular vote? No. So every president except 1 has been elected along the lines of the popular vote, then clearly the popular vote matters.
That is all.
If one day they decide to go against the popular vote and there is nothing to stop them then that shows the popular vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of it all.
That shows that the popular vote didn't matter in that one particular election. If all the other elections ran along the lines of the popular vote, then clearly the popular vote mattered. That's established fact, you can't just ignore that and care on with your twisted silly ass logic.
Who the ? judges what has and is happening over remote possibilities of what could happen. Are you going to stop living your life today because a meteor could hit the Earth and ? everyone tomorrow? -
The ONLY good thing about Trump is that it's exposed all the closet biggots and ? in this country. Once this dude doesn't become president they can't go back behind that door and hide like they ? blowin over. Nothin about what this dude reps is for anyone but the inept and the ill informed. He's a ? cartoon character.
