Hol up, wait a min...What is this I´m hearing that Kanye said Pac was OVERRATED??!!!
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So..... We still have no source of Ye saying this tho?
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Wrong ....but both PAC and Cubes catalogs ? on your idol biggies tho
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Cube catalog ? on 2pacs by the way. Pac was a wanna-be ice cube for the first 3 years of his career anyway.
Cube was a wanna be chuck d if you want to say that .....stole his production team and all -
I said it before, you can go in the ? rainforrest and they will know every word of pacs songs, he wasn't the best rapper ever but the most influent on the [w]hole world. Period.
I feel like there's one word that can perfectly and succinctly describe what you were talking about. It's on the tip of my tongue (nh)... I know it starts with an "o"... -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I really don't see what the hype is.
I realized something about greatness and death,I saw it when my Mother died.back then it felt like we won't even survive but now she's almost forgotten.no matter how great you are when you die after some years people will start to forget... When pac was alive 96 And dominating all these rappers y'all are saying are better than him now we're on the sidelines watching,wanting and wishing to be him.i laugh when people come here and say Nas influenced the game with ILLMATIC,if there's one rapper that actually influenced every rapper Tupac Amaru Shakur.my big bro was never a rap fan but he knows almost every song on eyes on me word to word
Pac made a lot of non hiphop fans start listening to hiphop
To me Biggie is goat but I don't fault anybody that calls pac goat. Pac influenced Biggie,Biggie said it too.i have seen jay,Nas ,Dmx,Ja rule, 50 cent,young buck master p, prodigy, Nate dog and damn near every rapper at least one time try to dress or rap or talk or move like pac or even wish to be like him
.pac was a mans man, the star of the stars He was a natural, he had presence,he commanded attention like no other.i been to different continents,he's the only rapper you will see his picture painted on walls all over the world.pac is the most influential rapper ever.hes to rap what Bob Marley is to reggae. -
Cube was a pac Stan watch the video of them together. Pac surpassed him early in his career. If pac overrated biggie indisputably trash. Lol @ pac lacking "technical" skills. Pac technical skill is at minimum a peer to big's. What you nincompoops forget is that big spent months writing his songs pac did them in minutes. There are multiple songs where pac spit for real and on equal terms to a biggie level. Yall forget this cause the plethora of unfinished sings that released after he died with reused rhyme schemes you were never supposed to hear.
2pac made all eyes on me, one of the greatest rap albums of all time in under a WEEK.
Made 7day theory in under a week. Meanwhile these other ? took years and dropped trash.
In under a year and a half pac recorded
AEOM
Makaveli
UTEOT
Better Days
Still I Rise
And more but he "overrated"???
To fatherless dweebs maybe. -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I really don't see what the hype is.
I realized something about greatness and death,I saw it when my Mother died.back then it felt like we won't even survive but now she's almost forgotten.no matter how great you are when you die after some years people will start to forget... When pac was alive 96 And dominating all these rappers y'all are saying are better than him now we're on the sidelines watching,wanting and wishing to be him.i laugh when people come here and say Nas influenced the game with ILLMATIC,if there's one rapper that actually influenced every rapper Tupac Amaru Shakur.my big bro was never a rap fan but he knows almost every song on eyes on me word to word
Pac made a lot of non hiphop fans start listening to hiphop
To me Biggie is goat but I don't fault anybody that calls pac goat. Pac influenced Biggie,Biggie said it too.i have seen jay,Nas ,Dmx,Ja rule, 50 cent,young buck master p, prodigy, Nate dog and damn near every rapper at least one time try to dress or rap or talk or move like pac or even wish to be like him
.pac was a mans man, the star of the stars He was a natural, he had presence,he commanded attention like no other.i been to different continents,he's the only rapper you will see his picture painted on walls all over the world.pac is the most influential rapper ever.hes to rap what Bob Marley is to reggae.
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ReppinTime wrote: »Cube was a pac Stan watch the video of them together. Pac surpassed him early in his career. If pac overrated biggie indisputably trash. Lol @ pac lacking "technical" skills. Pac technical skill is at minimum a peer to big's. What you nincompoops forget is that big spent months writing his songs pac did them in minutes. There are multiple songs where pac spit for real and on equal terms to a biggie level. Yall forget this cause the plethora of unfinished sings that released after he died with reused rhyme schemes you were never supposed to hear.
2pac made all eyes on me, one of the greatest rap albums of all time in under a WEEK.
Made 7day theory in under a week. Meanwhile these other ? took years and dropped trash.
In under a year and a half pac recorded
AEOM
Makaveli
UTEOT
Better Days
Still I Rise
And more but he "overrated"???
To fatherless dweebs maybe.
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you had to be there mane
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2pac is the rapper most kids have grown up hearing their parents say was the best. Does his catalog stand up though?? What criteria are we using to say he's the best??
I've said this before, pac was amazing at getting g people charged up. He was very intelligent and pro black. Yet with all the revolutionary talk, he's most remembered for his death row/Hit em up phase. Most ? these days claiming pac is the greatest and most influential (because of his views on politics and race) couldn't name 3 songs off 2pacalypse Now or strictly for my ? .
Does he have a place in rap history?? U damn right! Was he articulate while speaking and given interviews?? Definitely. But the GOAT? ? Not to me. To put him in that light as the GOAT would make him overrated -
If we're talkin' strictly rap and discountin' all outside factors, where you guys rank Pac?
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No ? in here just making cases for being fatherless weirdos
Pac was a man's man?
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CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »If we're talkin' strictly rap and discountin' all outside factors, where you guys rank Pac?
Depends on the criteria. And even then, its subjective. -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »If we're talkin' strictly rap and discountin' all outside factors, where you guys rank Pac?
Depends on the criteria. And even then, its subjective.
Subjective? On a discussion board? Word? -
Pac was the last hip hop artist with the ear of the masses that uncompromisingly spoke for "us". That kind of integrity can't be overstated. From a technical aspect, like someone said, there's much to be desired. But he made up for it with a level of charisma, honesty, and emotion that was never matched before, and hasn't been matched at that level since. You can't really quantify his greatness, or put him in a box and gauge him just off the music.
? the music.....
This right here >>>>>>>>>>>>
He was 20 bruh.... TWENTY. FOH wit that overrated ? .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R1jddzm4ic
But they boy J Cole is the truth talkin about his first piece of ? and letting another man down.
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I went to the Lauryn Hill concert this past weekend...made me relisten to her Unplugged.
It reminds me: Fam some of this aint FOR some of you ? . If you not spiritually inclined. ..if you have never picked up a Bible or Koran or Art of War of something of that element ...or if you cant name more than 2 Black Panthers. ...bruh these rare talents are not FOR you. You're not THERE yet and apparently wont get there. J Cole is your idea of depth
Lauryn Hill...Pac...Bob Marley...there's only a handful. Ice Cube is an awesome rapper, but he is not one. J Cole is not one. JAY Z, my #1 rapper all time is not one! Nas, ehhh, maybe, but if Nas is deep my goodness what was Pac???
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lS6OB2W1oRI
Huh??? Lmao On what planet is Tupac overrated? !?! Lmao WOW.
I feel like im feedin trolls at this point this CANT be real, on allHIPHOP.com. No way
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CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I really don't see what the hype is.I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
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Let's pin their catalogs against each other then.
Amerikkkas most wanted vs 2pacalypse Now
Death Certificate vs Strictly 4 my ?
The Predator vs Me against the world
War and peace vol 1 vs All eyes on me
War and peace vol 2 vs 7 day theory
Bonus:
? at will vs Thug life
Ice Cube: 2
2pac: 4
Pac wins -
FlightKing wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I really don't see what the hype is.I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I didn't wanna say sutten I knew would be controversial without bein' sure -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Let's pin their catalogs against each other then.
Amerikkkas most wanted vs 2pacalypse Now
Death Certificate vs Strictly 4 my ?
The Predator vs Me against the world
War and peace vol 1 vs All eyes on me
War and peace vol 2 vs 7 day theory
Bonus:
? at will vs Thug life
Ice Cube: 2
2pac: 4
Pac wins
Not really fair doing it that way. Do it top to bottom, best to worst vs best to worst. -
BackInWhite wrote: »Barkley? Over pippen?
? the Bulls beat magic for the 1st ring
You a goofy
So you saying Pippen >>> Magic?
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BackInWhite wrote: »No ? in here just making cases for being fatherless weirdos
Pac was a man's man?
? is that?
Please go back to school -
manofmorehouse wrote: »2pac is the rapper most kids have grown up hearing their parents say was the best. Does his catalog stand up though?? What criteria are we using to say he's the best??
I've said this before, pac was amazing at getting g people charged up. He was very intelligent and pro black. Yet with all the revolutionary talk, he's most remembered for his death row/Hit em up phase. Most ? these days claiming pac is the greatest and most influential (because of his views on politics and race) couldn't name 3 songs off 2pacalypse Now or strictly for my ? .
Does he have a place in rap history?? U damn right! Was he articulate while speaking and given interviews?? Definitely. But the GOAT? ? Not to me. To put him in that light as the GOAT would make him overrated
So big a goat ? -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »FlightKing wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I really don't see what the hype is.I listened to Pac's discography again yesterday at work.
I didn't wanna say sutten I knew would be controversial without bein' sure
I'm saying, Pac's WHOLE discography? That's a lot of music. You sure? -
You cant even just do a album to album comparison, bc Ice Cube has made a ton of music after his peak solo career and Pac has timeless music on soundtracks and posthumously
An album to album comparison doesnt account for 'Pain', for example
So if you gonna argue Pac, thats in there
And if you gonna argue Ice Cube, 1996 -present DID happen, so that includes:
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A yay ee yaaaay!!!
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