Mobb Deep - Drop A Gem On 'Em
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? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol -
hiphop12345 wrote: »
And jus that lil gesture alone ? y'all up for years. Lol & Prodigy was the main one crying.
NY actually got bigger after that, the West was down outside of Dre for almost a decade. Even Game had to get put on by 50. Rocafella, Ruff Ryder, Murder Inc, Nas, Terror Squad, Dipset, G-unit, etc etc all happen after the Green Screen. -
? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol
You were receiving the most mainstream of mainstream music in Mississippi in 96 -
? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol
You were receiving the most mainstream of mainstream music in Mississippi in 96
Naw fam. We were receiving the usual mainstream that the rest of the country was listening to. But I was listening to Master P, UGK, 8ball and MJG, Outkast and Goodie Mob, Tela, Bone thugs and the geto boysback in '96. Unless u lived in my state or in my house u can't tell me what I listened to or didn't playboy. -
Hit Em Up>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No question about it, 2pac ethered them with just a few lines -
kingblaze84 wrote: »
Ether how? They went on to match their initial success 3 albums after that diss, it had no affect on mobb deep, ot prodigy career
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Makavelians
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Tupacs fans are something else. To them he is like Jesus christ but lyrically Mobb Deep got at him while he only really could diss them with a few throwaway lines about a sickness of Prodigy but the mobb exposed his fragilness with the robbery and the ? allegations that where floating about at the time if you where around at the time which most Pac stans were not they would know that the lines in the mobb song were quite x rated at the time and the beat was viscious.
And im from london so all those people talking about it was only a local diss are wrong. Mobb Deep had a cult following all around the world at the time because lyrically not to many could ? with P not even jayz and production wise not to many kind ? with Havoc.
Drop a gem on em is a maserpiece lyrically and production wise. Hit em up was hugh in shook value lyrically it was weak and the production was even worse
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At the time
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This is an interesting thread because really there is no argument. Once it gets to the point where people are arguing that Hit em up had no effect or impact...thats when it gets ridiculous. Yes it definitely had an impact. Its known as the harshest and most well known diss ever...Not sayin Drop a gem...not saying anything about it but its definitely lesser known. It does no good to argue against reality. that said I agree with the ones who said M D and other NY acts went on to still have success. Thats also true. Its called being objective instead of emotional and denying reality. Hit em up definitely affected how people looked at Mobb deep (look at all the testing incidents dude had after that) and the others but at the same time it gave them attention too. Regardless of the emotions objectively Hit em up was the bigger song generally speaking by a wide margin impact wise and popularity they arent even really comparable.
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NoCompetition wrote: »This is an interesting thread because really there is no argument. Once it gets to the point where people are arguing that Hit em up had no effect or impact...thats when it gets ridiculous. Yes it definitely had an impact. Its known as the harshest and most well known diss ever...Not sayin Drop a gem...not saying anything about it but its definitely lesser known. It does no good to argue against reality. that said I agree with the ones who said M D and other NY acts went on to still have success. Thats also true. Its called being objective instead of emotional and denying reality. Hit em up definitely affected how people looked at Mobb deep (look at all the testing incidents dude had after that) and the others but at the same time it gave them attention too. Regardless of the emotions objectively Hit em up was the bigger song generally speaking by a wide margin impact wise and popularity they arent even really comparable.
That's the whole point be been trying to make all weekend. I like Mobb deep, but in no way was "Drop a gem on em" anywhere near as impactful as "Hit em up", and in no way did "Drop a gem on em" Ether Pac In any way, shape or form.
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? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol
Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.
In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.
The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo ? 's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.
Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;
4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.
The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.
Somethin For That ? - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.
Here's an interview where Doo ? discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4nsV3nbA61I/VQ4RbKRK0II/AAAAAAAAAV4/0OCqnzMkSoA/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LKrhSese64Q/VQ4RfCClGUI/AAAAAAAAAWA/iX1oBx6VUVs/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_2.jpg[/img]
Action Pac - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/
DJ Boo The Barber - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/
DJ Buckwild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/
DJ Brucie B - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/
DJ Capone - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/
DJ Chubby Chubb - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/
DJ Clue - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/
DJ Cutmaster C - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/
Doo ? - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-? /
Ron G - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/
DJ S&S - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/
Tony Touch - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/
DJ Whoo Kid - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/
Funkmaster Flex - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/
J Love - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/
Mister Cee - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/
Starchild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/
Stretch Armstrong - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/
The X- Executioners - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/
^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/ -
NoCompetition wrote: »This is an interesting thread because really there is no argument. Once it gets to the point where people are arguing that Hit em up had no effect or impact...thats when it gets ridiculous. Yes it definitely had an impact. Its known as the harshest and most well known diss ever...Not sayin Drop a gem...not saying anything about it but its definitely lesser known. It does no good to argue against reality. that said I agree with the ones who said M D and other NY acts went on to still have success. Thats also true. Its called being objective instead of emotional and denying reality. Hit em up definitely affected how people looked at Mobb deep (look at all the testing incidents dude had after that) and the others but at the same time it gave them attention too. Regardless of the emotions objectively Hit em up was the bigger song generally speaking by a wide margin impact wise and popularity they arent even really comparable.
That's the whole point be been trying to make all weekend. I like Mobb deep, but in no way was "Drop a gem on em" anywhere near as impactful as "Hit em up", and in no way did "Drop a gem on em" Ether Pac In any way, shape or form.
Yeah man I dont think anybody was sayin they sucked or anything like that. Its just simply speaking reality. -
? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol
Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.
In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.
The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo ? 's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.
Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;
4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.
The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.
Somethin For That ? - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.
Here's an interview where Doo ? discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4nsV3nbA61I/VQ4RbKRK0II/AAAAAAAAAV4/0OCqnzMkSoA/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LKrhSese64Q/VQ4RfCClGUI/AAAAAAAAAWA/iX1oBx6VUVs/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_2.jpg[/img]
Action Pac - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/
DJ Boo The Barber - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/
DJ Buckwild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/
DJ Brucie B - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/
DJ Capone - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/
DJ Chubby Chubb - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/
DJ Clue - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/
DJ Cutmaster C - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/
Doo ? - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-? /
Ron G - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/
DJ S&S - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/
Tony Touch - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/
DJ Whoo Kid - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/
Funkmaster Flex - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/
J Love - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/
Mister Cee - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/
Starchild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/
Stretch Armstrong - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/
The X- Executioners - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/
^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/
Zackly my point
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? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol
Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.
In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.
The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo ? 's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.
Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;
4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.
The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.
Somethin For That ? - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.
Here's an interview where Doo ? discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4nsV3nbA61I/VQ4RbKRK0II/AAAAAAAAAV4/0OCqnzMkSoA/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LKrhSese64Q/VQ4RfCClGUI/AAAAAAAAAWA/iX1oBx6VUVs/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_2.jpg[/img]
Action Pac - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/
DJ Boo The Barber - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/
DJ Buckwild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/
DJ Brucie B - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/
DJ Capone - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/
DJ Chubby Chubb - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/
DJ Clue - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/
DJ Cutmaster C - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/
Doo ? - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-? /
Ron G - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/
DJ S&S - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/
Tony Touch - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/
DJ Whoo Kid - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/
Funkmaster Flex - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/
J Love - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/
Mister Cee - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/
Starchild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/
Stretch Armstrong - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/
The X- Executioners - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/
^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/
No offense taken, and what u said had some truths to it, but not totally. One assumption u made that was incorrect was about me copping albums or learning about music from the Source magazine. I've never let the Source be the guide for my hip hop decisions. Did I read it? Yes, all teenagers and kids growing up in the 90's did, but I never copped an album because the Source gave it 5 mics. If anything, I always felt like the Source was bias towards the East coast because it always low graded my favorite Mc's from the south. As far as BET and MTV goes same thing. Of course I watched em, especially BET cause it was the ? back then, but a lot of the artists I really liked besides Pac, Snoop,Bone, etc, didn't get much video play on those stations. Master P and No limit had maybe 1 or 2 video at that time, UGK went gold in '96 wit Ridin ? with no video play, 8ball and MJG barely any video play, Hell Geto boys and Outkast barely got video play and they were clearly the most established Southern artist at the time. We relied on word of mouth and what sounded good to us. -
And of course u guys are gonna get more exclusive stuff in New York because of your location. New York is the media Mecca of the world with all of the record complaines and industry connections. Where I'm from we grassroots, and underground and getting the mainstream of what's popular wherever the artist is from. That's why I say I love hip hop as a whole, I'm more bias to the south and west, but I got love and respect for the east because I had to listen to it all growing up.
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? outta here wit that hick town ? , them wack ass do ? and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.
Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.
@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?
Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin ? as a high school freshman. Lol
Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.
In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.
The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo ? 's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.
Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;
4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.
The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.
Somethin For That ? - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.
Here's an interview where Doo ? discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4nsV3nbA61I/VQ4RbKRK0II/AAAAAAAAAV4/0OCqnzMkSoA/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LKrhSese64Q/VQ4RfCClGUI/AAAAAAAAAWA/iX1oBx6VUVs/s1600/ABT-doo_? _interview_2.jpg[/img]
Action Pac - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/
DJ Boo The Barber - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/
DJ Buckwild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/
DJ Brucie B - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/
DJ Capone - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/
DJ Chubby Chubb - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/
DJ Clue - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/
DJ Cutmaster C - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/
Doo ? - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-? /
Ron G - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/
DJ S&S - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/
Tony Touch - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/
DJ Whoo Kid - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/
Funkmaster Flex - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/
J Love - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/
Mister Cee - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/
Starchild - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/
Stretch Armstrong - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/
The X- Executioners - http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/
^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/
No offense taken, and what u said had some truths to it, but not totally. One assumption u made that was incorrect was about me copping albums or learning about music from the Source magazine. I've never let the Source be the guide for my hip hop decisions. Did I read it? Yes, all teenagers and kids growing up in the 90's did, but I never copped an album because the Source gave it 5 mics. If anything, I always felt like the Source was bias towards the East coast because it always low graded my favorite Mc's from the south. As far as BET and MTV goes same thing. Of course I watched em, especially BET cause it was the ? back then, but a lot of the artists I really liked besides Pac, Snoop,Bone, etc, didn't get much video play on those stations. Master P and No limit had maybe 1 or 2 video at that time, UGK went gold in '96 wit Ridin ? with no video play, 8ball and MJG barely any video play, Hell Geto boys and Outkast barely got video play and they were clearly the most established Southern artist at the time. We relied on word of mouth and what sounded good to us.
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Here's another Doo ? interview on Unkut.com
Robbie: You were the only person who really called Lil’ Wayne out when he shat on mixtapes. It was kinda ironic, wasn’t it?
Doo ? : Exactly, like how could you do that? And he’s dope to me! The day after I did that, I still played his ? at a party, because that’s what the people want! If you just Google the word ‘mixtapes’, I won’t come-up right now at the top page – Kid Capri won’t even come-up! It’ll be pictures of Lil’ Wayne! He’s dope, he deserves all the fame he gets, but it was just real arrogant and unnecessary [when he was interviewed by Foundation Mag]. Why would you even do that? I did something – he probably never even heard it – but whatever. I just did it to stand-up for the DJ’s. These dude’s just let that ? slide like it’s OK. It didn’t make sense. If I wasn’t me, and a DJ made a record standing up for DJ’s, I’d play the ? out of that record! I never heard it on the radio – Flex never played it. Enuff didn’t play it. DJ’s that I was cool with, and I’m standin’ up for y’all too! Even one time? He ? on y’all! He’s like, ‘Mixtape DJ’s can suck my ? !’ That’s what he said! First of all, you’re not gonna say nothing. Second of all, somebody else says something, you’re not gonna support it, but you play his ? right after that…
http://www.unkut.com/2009/06/doo-? -the-unkut-interview-pt-1-95-live/ -
Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died
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No offense taken, and what u said had some truths to it, but not totally. One assumption u made that was incorrect was about me copping albums or learning about music from the Source magazine. I've never let the Source be the guide for my hip hop decisions. Did I read it? Yes, all teenagers and kids growing up in the 90's did, but I never copped an album because the Source gave it 5 mics. If anything, I always felt like the Source was bias towards the East coast because it always low graded my favorite Mc's from the south. As far as BET and MTV goes same thing. Of course I watched em, especially BET cause it was the ? back then, but a lot of the artists I really liked besides Pac, Snoop,Bone, etc, didn't get much video play on those stations. Master P and No limit had maybe 1 or 2 video at that time, UGK went gold in '96 wit Ridin ? with no video play, 8ball and MJG barely any video play, Hell Geto boys and Outkast barely got video play and they were clearly the most established Southern artist at the time. We relied on word of mouth and what sounded good to us.
Yeah, you relied on word of mouth, but there was some stuff that you just weren't exposed to. I mean if you didn't get it from the radio, The Source, BET and/or MTV then where did you get it from?
My point is that people in New York were exposed to The Source, BET and MTV but there was a whole alternate universe that New Yorkers were exposed to; mixtapes. By your own admission, cats around your way in Mississippi didn't even know that the mixtape scene existed.
The general consensus in this thread is that Hit EM Up was a shocking, monumental, game changer and a GOAT diss, but the people making this claim had no idea that there was a mixtape renaissance in Harlem and that people in the Tri State were focused on copping that new mixtape that contained music that wouldn't be released for another 2-3 months.
Its not that Hit Em Up wasn't a shocking diss, its just that cats in the Tri-State were focused on something else altogether. In hindsight, Hit Em Up was just a a blip on New York's radar. The hottest thing to come out of the mid 90s was Doo ? 's 95 Live tape imo, not anything from Death Row or Bad Boy. -
Another way to look at it was Hit Em Up was like the Pearl Harbor attack. It came out of nowhere and devastated Hawaii.
But in hindsight, the Pearl Harbor attack wasn't THAT devastating. -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died
? hit me up took off the minute pac dropped it quit your caping smh -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died
? hit me up took off the minute pac dropped it quit your caping smh
Remember how 50 cent diss towards Ja Rule picked up momentum as he went on? Well maybe Drop a gem would of did that but Pac died and it put a end to that kind of energy. -
Another way to look at it was Hit Em Up was like the Pearl Harbor attack. It came out of nowhere and devastated Hawaii.
But in hindsight, the Pearl Harbor attack wasn't THAT devastating.
Ok bruh, whatever u say. U can try to downplay "Hit em up" all y'all want too, but that ? was monumental. I know for a fact that it bothered Prodigy n Biggie, & had a whole coast in its feelings. It's been 20 years & whole lot has changed but ya can't take away the history n the waves that rippled after that record first cane out. Good debate tho, I'm glad we could talk about this ? like grown men.
