Ray Lewis "Black Folks, We Gotta Do Better"

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  • deadeye
    deadeye Members Posts: 22,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Couldn't even make it through the video.


    Would've been better if he just talked the way he normally does.
  • zzombie
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    Copper wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    ? don't listen to the intelligent black men they just want to waste time protesting and blaming the white man for everything. feminism and leftism is at the heart of all our social problems and these create a large parts of our economic problems but you ? won't listen instead you want to disrespect me for not being a ? democrat and telling you the truth about BLM being a waste of ? time.. When I tell you we need to return to traditional values you don't listen instead you disrespect me for being an immigrant

    Cosign

    We need to be nice to white people and vote for Ted Cruz....that'll work.

    Nice to white people????? anyway ? do you have anything to add to the conversation or will you just make your usual snarky remarks??? who else should we vote for???? Bernie sanders that will destroy the economy or Hilary who thinks black men are super predators.

    Yeah Cruz (a man that voted against wage fairness wage act bill) would be great for black people bc he thinks so highly of us


    ...more snarky remarks

    RAISING the minimum wage is a horrible idea for the whole nation. I don't give a ? about how a politician feels about me all I care about is how I can use the system to better my situation... I mean you really thing the Clintons, or sanders give a ? about you.

    A politican can say whatever the ? he or she wants as long as how they govern can be to our benefit I am not concerned with the small ? .

    ...and the way Cruz governs will not be to the benefit of America

    Possibly not but he is a better option than Sanders and trump
  • blackamerica
    blackamerica Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So because black low income communities have high murder rates, that should justify a white cop unjustly killing a unarmed black kid? Cops should be innocent based of black on black crime? Somebody get this tap dancin ? outta here.

    I can't stand a ? who say ? just to appease white ppl
  • ChillaDaGawd
    ChillaDaGawd Members Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Black people are fine like we are......now crackas...
  • ghostdog56
    ghostdog56 Members Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Does this ? own any businesses that employs black people?
  • S2J
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    Im still stuck on 'before we can adress the problem we first must acknowledge the root"

    Like what does that MEAN. On a practical level. It SOUNDS amazing. But on a practical level its fluff

    Like if its a housing workshop for low income folk how does that come into play?

    'Now before we start this presentation on property ownership.. I put together a couple of slides on the CIA's infiltration of the Black Panthers

    Its fluff! Stop stalling and progress
  • D0wn
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    zzombie wrote: »
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Yeah we can speak on it but what are we going to do about it???? we knew about this ? for well over a decade already and also no one forces people to do drugs and no one makes people shoot people.

    It's somewhat hypocritical of you to feel "leftism" is the root of the problem,and thus that has to be directly addressed before any real change can be had .....

    but yet you say addressing systemic racism and discrimination (the root) of the black community's "ratchet" state will ultimately accomplish nothing

    The root of black "ratchet" behavior is leftism not racism blacks did not behave the way we do now back in the 30's and there was more racism and poverty back then so if we are going to find the "root" of our rachet behavior we have to look at what negative changes were made during the 60's and 70's, what we should be doing is recognizing both the positive and negative results of the era of change.

    there is no viable solution to getting rid of racism all that can be done is mitigate it's effects.

    And the ? era, which was systematically implemented into the blk community, had nothing to do with that? ............. okay ..
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    D0wn wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    a.mann wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Yeah we can speak on it but what are we going to do about it???? we knew about this ? for well over a decade already and also no one forces people to do drugs and no one makes people shoot people.

    It's somewhat hypocritical of you to feel "leftism" is the root of the problem,and thus that has to be directly addressed before any real change can be had .....

    but yet you say addressing systemic racism and discrimination (the root) of the black community's "ratchet" state will ultimately accomplish nothing

    The root of black "ratchet" behavior is leftism not racism blacks did not behave the way we do now back in the 30's and there was more racism and poverty back then so if we are going to find the "root" of our rachet behavior we have to look at what negative changes were made during the 60's and 70's, what we should be doing is recognizing both the positive and negative results of the era of change.

    there is no viable solution to getting rid of racism all that can be done is mitigate it's effects.

    And the ? era, which was systematically implemented into the blk community, had nothing to do with that? ............. okay ..

    the ? era wouldn't have affected black america as deeply as it did had leftism not first destroyed the black family.
  • Ajackson17
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    I didn't watch the video. I don't watch sports entertainers opinion on social issues and anyway we always have cause and effect, but you learn what causes the cause and why did it had the effect it did. Then keep pushing forward to make improvements, that's it.

    @zzombie do you have any reading material on how "leftism" destroyed the black family or any documentation on this subject?
  • Ajackson17
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    Here is a good article on both.

    http://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

    I think black people need a completely different outlook on politics and how they sway us and what we would like from them. I'm big on the environment and supports on scientific reasoning. So a politician that supports those two things and small businesses I think I will definitely go for that politician.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
    Cunt_Lyfe Members, Writer Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    People who never take the time to do understand how white supremacy, anti-Blackness and capitalism work in conjuction are always the ones making videos like this because they're apolitical, ahistorical, and filled with self-hate.

    You talk about this like it's a moral issue, yet ignore the lack of resources (social, divestment, high impoverishment, globalization, mass incarceration, and immigration bills (which increased surveillance towards Black immigrants) that created this.

    Like, people need to research before they speak on this ? because not all opinions are helpful and spread misinfomation.

    Nobody argue about this with me. You know that I'm right.
  • the dukester
    the dukester Members Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He needs to stick to his "? dance."

    Isn't this the same guy who stabbed up two dudes? I'll never forget the press conference when his coach told the media to stop asking questions about MY PLAYER (code for my slave) because he's our cash cow.

  • SolemnSauce
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    zzombie wrote: »
    ? _Lyfe wrote: »
    People who never take the time to do understand how white supremacy, anti-Blackness and capitalism work in conjuction are always the ones making videos like this because they're apolitical, ahistorical, and filled with self-hate.

    You talk about this like it's a moral issue, yet ignore the lack of resources (social, divestment, high impoverishment, globalization, mass incarceration, and immigration bills (which increased surveillance towards Black immigrants) that created this.

    Like, people need to research before they speak on this ? because not all opinions are helpful and spread misinfomation.

    Nobody argue about this with me. You know that I'm right.

    I really wish you would drown yourself...that maybe wrong but people like you are more destructive than any white supremacist.

    Your entire identity and social political perspective is a result of leftism and needs to be destroyed.

    Everybody ain't ready for the blue pill fam
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A faux feminist trapper talking about the evils of capitalism. If you don't get all the ? outta here with your hypocritical psudeo-intellectualism
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Here is a good article on both.

    http://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

    I think black people need a completely different outlook on politics and how they sway us and what we would like from them. I'm big on the environment and supports on scientific reasoning. So a politician that supports those two things and small businesses I think I will definitely go for that politician.

    There is no way to scientifically analyze and decide which side of the left right divide is objectively correct because it comes down to perspective.

    Some people would sacrifice everything for social justice and equality. others want freedom to do everything. All we can do is look at the historical outcomes of leftist societies vs more right wing society or center orientated society
  • Ajackson17
    Ajackson17 Members Posts: 22,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A evil person with any system will do evil things, a good person with any system will do good things. Capitalism is just a tool to advance humanity whether who uses that vehicle. This is why I don't have issues with Socialism, Capitalism, and Communism. It's up to the people to use these vehicles, if people want to act a fool they will act a fool regardless.
  • LPast
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    ? _Lyfe wrote: »
    People who never take the time to do understand how white supremacy, anti-Blackness and capitalism work in conjuction are always the ones making videos like this because they're apolitical, ahistorical, and filled with self-hate.

    You talk about this like it's a moral issue, yet ignore the lack of resources (social, divestment, high impoverishment, globalization, mass incarceration, and immigration bills (which increased surveillance towards Black immigrants) that created this.

    Like, people need to research before they speak on this ? because not all opinions are helpful and spread misinfomation.

    Nobody argue about this with me. You know that I'm right.

    I don't think you get it. Without community none of that matters... Without community, it is unattainable.

    Y'all must think we are inferior if you can name and document all of our obstacles yet ignore things we can do to better ourselves.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    A evil person with any system will do evil things, a good person with any system will do good things. Capitalism is just a tool to advance humanity whether who uses that vehicle. This is why I don't have issues with Socialism, Capitalism, and Communism. It's up to the people to use these vehicles, if people want to act a fool they will act a fool regardless.

    Socialism and Communison are an inherently FLAWED system that bases it's premise off of humans doing not only the best for themselves but each other. Capitalism is at least honest about its complete lack of indifference in most cases
  • LPast
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    Smh @ the lack of resources in Chicago...

    If the gang violence stopped in Chicago today. No one would starve to death...

  • Ajackson17
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Here is a good article on both.

    http://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

    I think black people need a completely different outlook on politics and how they sway us and what we would like from them. I'm big on the environment and supports on scientific reasoning. So a politician that supports those two things and small businesses I think I will definitely go for that politician.

    There is no way to scientifically analyze and decide which side of the left right divide is objectively correct because it comes down to perspective.

    Some people would sacrifice everything for social justice and equality. others want freedom to do everything. All we can do is look at the historical outcomes of leftist societies vs more right wing society or center orientated society

    Then I'll do my independent research.
  • Ajackson17
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    A evil person with any system will do evil things, a good person with any system will do good things. Capitalism is just a tool to advance humanity whether who uses that vehicle. This is why I don't have issues with Socialism, Capitalism, and Communism. It's up to the people to use these vehicles, if people want to act a fool they will act a fool regardless.

    Socialism and Communison is an inherently FLAWED system that bases it's premise off of humans doing not only the best for themselves but each other. Capitalism is at least honest about its complete lack of indifference in most cases

    That has happened before or otherwise you and me wouldn't have exist, we'll be extinct. It's man's ability to cooperate and work together that has dominated the other hominids and become the top predator and create some civilization. It's just that man's greedy eye gotten too big.

    I mean then what's the best route for humanity just capitalism? I think some humans are bored so we compete for competition and power struggles to have some sort of thrill in our lives.