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I thought the Cavs at full strength would make a difference.
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Shizlansky wrote: »Cleveland gotta stop switching on picks. ? ain't working and it's getting the role players easy shots.
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So Lebron is now 0-7 vs GS
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I thought the Cavs at full strength would make a difference.
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Lebron will never be greater than Kobe.... Case closed
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Ain't really much else to say the Warriors are simply better. The Cavs have to work for every shot while the Warriors are getting easy baskets, and when the Cavs do defend well they're hitting tough shots. Ain't ? else they can do.
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joeyfkncrakk wrote: »Lebron will never be greater than Kobe.... Case closed
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OhioState1987 wrote: »If these ? don't get it together in game 3 they might have to add another chapter to the ESPN 30 for 30 Believeland
These first 2 games is enough alone to add another chapter to 30 for 30. The Cavs are downright embarrassing and really are showing how bad the Eastern Conference is. What they gone do if they get swept this series? Keep going to the ECF every year like the Pistons did from '03-08 and keep losing every year? (At least the Pistons got 1 title & 2 Finals appearances) This Cavs team looks worse than the one that played in the Finals last year. -
That's a weak argument.
It's "most valuable player in the league"
What, his value differs in the playoffs? If anything it should go UP.
Who's the real MVP to you?
My vote would've went
Lebron CP3 Curry Durant Westbrook
So lebron
Look at it like this
Cavs with Bron can get to the finals at best
No Bron they may be an 8-9 seed
Warriors with no Curry 5-7 seed
With curry 73-9 and second straight championship
Now my question is which is more valuable a finals appearance and another loss or second straight ring and the greatest record of all time?
I can word it differently and NOT rely on hypotheticals (which have no place in a debate anyways).
Before Lebron was drafted Cleveland had 17 wins. As a rookie they doubled the wins then never lost less than 42.
His last years they won 66 and 61. He leaves and the very next year they win 19, then 21, then 24, than 33. Never got close to winning the amount he did in his ROOKIE year. He comes back, the next two years they in the finals.
THAT's value.
And inarguable.
What does his rookie year and before have to do with MVP of 2016?
Showing you the value of him being on a team, and what the team does when he's not there.
You see what the Warriors do when Curry isn't playing or is ineffective.
And you can judge Curry's value in a ring or the best record ever....this season!
Ok so tell me about Curry's games in this and last years finals...
Go ahead and look them all up.
He wasn't even most valuable on his own team last finals.
Tell me about brons and how they ended
Let's see, he averaged something like 36 13 and 9.
The guy who HELD him to those stats got MVP.
This year curry scored 10 and 18 and hasn't been the best player on his team in any game. Not even close actually.
Lol you trolling good job guy
So if we basing MVP on scoring..
Harden>>>> -
joeyfkncrakk wrote: »Lebron will never be greater than Kobe.... Case closed
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That's the agenda going on in here tonight. -
An understated aspect of this the type of players Lebron and Kyrie are.
They are two ball dominate guys who needs the ball to be effective.
Those kinda skillsets from your stars make it harder for the less talented rotational guys to get involved. -
waterproof wrote: »Smush Parker ain't walkin through that door
He couldn't fit through the door -
Lol @ y'all claiming Curry is not valuable when they don't need him against an inferior opponent.
Like the real Finals wasn't the OKC - Warriors series. -
That's a weak argument.
It's "most valuable player in the league"
What, his value differs in the playoffs? If anything it should go UP.
Who's the real MVP to you?
My vote would've went
Lebron CP3 Curry Durant Westbrook
So lebron
Look at it like this
Cavs with Bron can get to the finals at best
No Bron they may be an 8-9 seed
Warriors with no Curry 5-7 seed
With curry 73-9 and second straight championship
Now my question is which is more valuable a finals appearance and another loss or second straight ring and the greatest record of all time?
I can word it differently and NOT rely on hypotheticals (which have no place in a debate anyways).
Before Lebron was drafted Cleveland had 17 wins. As a rookie they doubled the wins then never lost less than 42.
His last years they won 66 and 61. He leaves and the very next year they win 19, then 21, then 24, than 33. Never got close to winning the amount he did in his ROOKIE year. He comes back, the next two years they in the finals.
THAT's value.
And inarguable.
What does his rookie year and before have to do with MVP of 2016?
Showing you the value of him being on a team, and what the team does when he's not there.
You see what the Warriors do when Curry isn't playing or is ineffective.
And you can judge Curry's value in a ring or the best record ever....this season!
Ok so tell me about Curry's games in this and last years finals...
Go ahead and look them all up.
He wasn't even most valuable on his own team last finals.
Tell me about brons and how they ended
Let's see, he averaged something like 36 13 and 9.
The guy who HELD him to those stats got MVP.
This year curry scored 10 and 18 and hasn't been the best player on his team in any game. Not even close actually.
Lol you trolling good job guy
So if we basing MVP on scoring..
Harden>>>>
Please point out where i said its only about scoring.
And you're wrong on another front because curry was the scoring champ this year. -
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They need Big Z
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I might be ? . Doris Burke is looking right right now.
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waterproof wrote: »Smush Parker ain't walkin through that door
He couldn't fit through the door
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit lhd into oblivion -
5th Letter wrote: »They need Big Z
They need the OKC Thunder -
That's a weak argument.
It's "most valuable player in the league"
What, his value differs in the playoffs? If anything it should go UP.
Who's the real MVP to you?
My vote would've went
Lebron CP3 Curry Durant Westbrook
So lebron
Look at it like this
Cavs with Bron can get to the finals at best
No Bron they may be an 8-9 seed
Warriors with no Curry 5-7 seed
With curry 73-9 and second straight championship
Now my question is which is more valuable a finals appearance and another loss or second straight ring and the greatest record of all time?
I can word it differently and NOT rely on hypotheticals (which have no place in a debate anyways).
Before Lebron was drafted Cleveland had 17 wins. As a rookie they doubled the wins then never lost less than 42.
His last years they won 66 and 61. He leaves and the very next year they win 19, then 21, then 24, than 33. Never got close to winning the amount he did in his ROOKIE year. He comes back, the next two years they in the finals.
THAT's value.
And inarguable.
What does his rookie year and before have to do with MVP of 2016?
Showing you the value of him being on a team, and what the team does when he's not there.
You see what the Warriors do when Curry isn't playing or is ineffective.
And you can judge Curry's value in a ring or the best record ever....this season!
Ok so tell me about Curry's games in this and last years finals...
Go ahead and look them all up.
He wasn't even most valuable on his own team last finals.
Tell me about brons and how they ended
Let's see, he averaged something like 36 13 and 9.
The guy who HELD him to those stats got MVP.
This year curry scored 10 and 18 and hasn't been the best player on his team in any game. Not even close actually.
Lol you trolling good job guy
So if we basing MVP on scoring..
Harden>>>>
Please point out where i said its only about scoring.
And you're wrong on another front because curry was the scoring champ this year.
I'm sorry. When you answered with point totals I assumed you were attempting to make a point. -
I might be ? . Doris Burke is looking right right now.
Yea ? , it's time to put the bottle down -
for everyone saying lebron should just go to the basket it's not that simple. he has no one on one handle or moves.
now that he is older his only move is lowering his shoulder or stiff arm to the basket.
draymond green and andre have the wide shoulders and length to challenge his shot and not get run over.
avg post game and no mid range game lebron is looking like karl malone. just physically stronger than most of his opponents.
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