Cuba willing to give up American fugitives to USA for Cuban spy. USA wants Assata Shakur....
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Obama's boys want Assata Shakur in this prisoner swap.
SMH
Hope Ms Assata leaves Cuba and gets to Africa or another country that will grant her PA.
Cuba Wants Convicted Spy Released in U.S. Prisoner Swap
Cuba and the United States are discussing possible exchanges of prisoners, including the release of a woman considered one of the most damaging spies in recent history, U.S. officials told NBC News.
The discussions, said to be in their early stages, are part of efforts by the two countries toward normalization of diplomatic relations.
Among the names floated by Cuban leaders, officials say, is Ana Montes, convicted in 2002 of spying for the Cuban government for nearly two decades while working for the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency.
Montes was sentenced to 25 years in prison and is due to be released in 2023.
For their part, American officials say the U.S. is interested in getting back Americans who sought refuge in Cuba from U.S. prosecution.
"Cuba has been a haven for U.S. fugitives," said one federal law enforcement official.
Among those U.S. officials would like back is Joanne Chesimard (Assata Shakur), who escaped from a New Jersey prison in 1979 where she was serving a life sentence for killing a state trooper by shooting him with his own gun at a traffic stop.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/u-s-cuba-relations/cuba-wants-convicted-spy-released-u-s-prisoner-swap-n585601
SMH
Hope Ms Assata leaves Cuba and gets to Africa or another country that will grant her PA.
Cuba Wants Convicted Spy Released in U.S. Prisoner Swap
Cuba and the United States are discussing possible exchanges of prisoners, including the release of a woman considered one of the most damaging spies in recent history, U.S. officials told NBC News.
The discussions, said to be in their early stages, are part of efforts by the two countries toward normalization of diplomatic relations.
Among the names floated by Cuban leaders, officials say, is Ana Montes, convicted in 2002 of spying for the Cuban government for nearly two decades while working for the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency.
Montes was sentenced to 25 years in prison and is due to be released in 2023.
For their part, American officials say the U.S. is interested in getting back Americans who sought refuge in Cuba from U.S. prosecution.
"Cuba has been a haven for U.S. fugitives," said one federal law enforcement official.
Among those U.S. officials would like back is Joanne Chesimard (Assata Shakur), who escaped from a New Jersey prison in 1979 where she was serving a life sentence for killing a state trooper by shooting him with his own gun at a traffic stop.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/u-s-cuba-relations/cuba-wants-convicted-spy-released-u-s-prisoner-swap-n585601
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Damn shame.
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Once Cuba and US relations got better over the last couple of years, I knew something like this was going to happen....I hope she is able o make it to another country that grants her political asylum
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welp its only a matter of time
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She'll be gone. I'll donate to her gofundme.
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The last I recall...........Why Cuba will never send Assata Shakur to the U.S.
http://www.essence.com/2015/03/05/cuba-says-returning-assata-shakur-us-off-the-table
Despite improved relations between the United States and Cuba, Cuban officials have no plans to turn American fugitive Assata Shakur over to the U.S.
President Obama announced in December that the two countries have restored relations, even releasing political prisoners from both sides. But, the chances that Cuba will agree to turn over Shakur are slim. Earlier this week, Gustavo Machin, deputy director for American affairs at the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told Yahoo! News, "I can say it is off the table. There are very serious doubts about that case. We consider that a politically motivated case against that lady." -
Time to make travel arrangements -
Obama with the patent fuckery....
But Hes yall ? tho.... so
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Is this the result of Obamas trip to Cuba?
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can Obama pardon her???? will he pardon her???
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
Time to make travel arrangements
U think. Cuba just gonna let her go right now?
If shes smart, she would of left, when they sent Jay and "Angela Davis" I mean Beyonce over there. -
better Montes stay in jail in the US than go back just over Shakur. not worth it.
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can Obama pardon her???? will he pardon her???
Lmaoooo... Obama is the company man. That hoe ? aint gonna pardon ? , but them white ? up his ass. -
Assata was the first person that crossed my mind when i heard about the opening of relations with Cuba. Obama is the type of dude to go out of his way to sell Assata out. He is the same guy who gave us the beer summit.
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Only way she leaving that island now is if they get her now she's been on the run to long they won't let her get away again.
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Obama has been in office for nearly 8 years and done absolutely nothing for Black America, why are you surprised he would pull this? He grew up identifying with his white half, and only embrace his father's side when opportunities sprung up.
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can Obama pardon her???? will he pardon her???
Mutulu Shakur did his 30 and they still holding him....so i doubt it.
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shitload of African nations have no extradition treaty with the US. Assata need to sneak her ass off that island and get on a plane to one of them. Truthfully she shoulda been outta Cuba tho. High tail it to Eritrea or Ethiopia or some ? .
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who is the Cuban spy they speak of that all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere
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who is the Cuban spy they speak of that all of a sudden appeared out of nowhereMontes spied for 17 years, patiently, methodically. She passed along so many secrets about her colleagues — and the advanced eavesdropping platforms that American spooks had covertly installed in Cuba — that intelligence experts consider her among the most harmful spies in recent memory. But Montes, now 56, did not deceive just her nation and her colleagues. She also betrayed her brother Tito, an FBI special agent; her former boyfriend Roger Corneretto, an intelligence officer for the Pentagon specializing in Cuba; and her sister, Lucy, a 28-year veteran of the FBI who has won awards for helping to unmask Cuban spies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/04/18/ana-montes-did-much-harm-spying-for-cuba-chances-are-you-havent-heard-of-her/
Her story needs a movie. She wasn't even Cuban. If it wasn't for Sept 11th, she would have kept it going. I don't see how Assata is comparable to her in terms of their actions.
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better Montes stay in jail in the US than go back just over Shakur. not worth it.
Not a fair trade anyway. A spy is a big deal -
can Obama pardon her????
No and I never wanted him to. Because according to the Supreme Court (Burdick v. United States), accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. And she didn't do ? . So ? that.
this story is ducktales, yall can relax.
Two Reasons:
1) The CIA, NSA, and the rest of the intelligence community will NEVER....EVER....co-sign letting a convicted spy go, that's why they had Jonathan Pollard in a cage for 3 decades despite Israel screaming for his release. When Bill Clinton raised the possibility of releasing Pollard to Israel as part of the Oslo peace talks, the intelligence community went ? NUTS. These guys take that ? personally - Snitches Get Stitches. A "Bridge of Spies" trade to get one of your own agents back is different because that's a calculated move to regain their expertise and anything they might have seen on the other side. The CIA will let the FBI trade one of the worst spies in U.S history for a fugitive over their dead ? body.
"Carmichael, who had led DIA's investigation of Montes, named Montes as being directly responsible for the death of Green Beret SGT Gregory A. Fronius who was killed at El Paraíso, El Salvador, on March 31, 1987 during the FMLN attack."
Again, over their DEAD ? BODY.
however more importantly,
2) For Cuba, turning Shakur in to U.S. authorities would constitute a betrayal of its long, very carefully cultivated relationship with the African-American community, with the African diaspora and Africa itself. Castro didn't just do photo ops with Malcolm X; under his leadership, Cuba articulated a vision for the elimination of institutional racism and attempted to dismantle it (though even he admitted this was not as successful as he'd hoped), put men and women on the ground in several wars of liberation in Africa, trained doctors from Africa for free through its Latin American School of Medicine and, in recent years, extended scholarships to the school through the Congressional Black Caucus to U.S. students from underserved communities. (Of course, all this has also resulted in tremendous tolerance by African and other Third World countries of Cuba's human rights abuses.)
Returning Shakur to the U.S. would be an inconceivable 180 on the principles that governed all that. And whatever Cuba's actual record on more general ethical behavior, this is one issue on which it has never wavered.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-cuba-assata-shakur-fbi-america-obama-perspec-1230-20141229-story.html
Get it? The Cuban Government actually cares about Pan-African opinion...........they want the approval of all of us in this thread...........in fact, they care so much that they FOUGHT A ? WAR OVER IT:
in 1974 Fidel Castro decided to send thousands of Cuban troops to Angola to protect the nascent revolutionary MPLA government from falling to the racist South African army. The South Africans had invaded Angola with a force of about 8,000 soldiers seeking to overthrow the MPLA and install a puppet government friendly to the apartheid regime.
Despite being in the midst of talks with the Ford administration about normalization of relations, Castro decided to carry out the fight against apartheid and for the liberation of Africans who had suffered centuries of colonial ? . Not getting involved in Angola may well have meant an end of the embargo and the omnipresent hostilities against Cuba. Regardless, Castro decided not to turn his back on Angola and leave the MPLA to suffer what would have been an inevitable defeat.
For 15 years, Cuba maintained a military presence in Angola to see their mission through to the end, despite the ire and hostility of successive American administrations. When Jimmy Carter assumed the Presidency he was open to relations with Cuba, but set a precondition of the removal of Cuban troops from Angola.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/21/why-cuba-wont-extradite-assata-shakur/
So you mean to tell me Cuba's gonna flush all that down the toliet for a non-cuban white ? that's getting released in 7 years anyway???
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I hope that lady lives all her days as a free woman. All of em.....
"The United States continues to seek the return from Cuba of fugitives from U.S. justice. The Department repeatedly raises fugitive cases with the Cuban government and will continue to do so at every appropriate opportunity."
Oh, I'm sure they will keep doing so. I wonder how Assata felt when Barry recently went over there for that "Change" junk and/or was her freedom going to be a part of that..... -
Okay so most likely he won't pardon her but I still hope he does because I would like that old lady to live out the rest of her life without the threat of jail hanging over her head... besides to us and the righteous thinking people of the world she will always be innocent anyway
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