40 Acres and a Mule Would Be at Least $6.4 Trillion Today—What the U.S. Really Owes Black America
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http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/make-it-right/infographic-40-acres-and-a-mule-would-be-at-least-64-trillion-today
Sources:
Introduction
http://theconversation.com/slavery-in-america-back-in-the-headlines-33004
http://www.civil-war.net/census.asp?census=Total
1.
1.5 million pounds in 1790 and 2.25 billion pounds in 1859, based on Empire of Cotton, by Sven Beckert (2014) pgs. 104, 106
77% based on: Cotton and Race in the Making of America: The Human Costs of Economic Power, by Gene Dattel (2009)
http://mshistorynow.mdah.state.ms.us/articles/161/cotton-in-a-global-economy-mississippi-1800-1860
Joshua Rothman, email correspondence, 2015
http://eh.net/encyclopedia/the-economics-of-the-civil-war/
http://abrahamlincolnsclassroom.org/abraham-lincoln-in-depth/abraham-lincoln-and-civil-war-finance
48.3% in 1860 according to Gavin Wright, Slavery and American Economic Development (LSU Press, 2006, paperback 2013) [personal communication]
2.
http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=jlasc
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/dc_emancipation_act/
http://philosophy.fullerton.edu/people/2007 - Heiner - Abolition Democracy - Rad Phil Today 5.pdf
http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/slavery_in.PDF
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21583992-fifty-years-after-martin-luther-kings-speech-fixing-americas-racial-ills-requires-new/comments?page=8
The Politics of Despair: Power and Resistance in the Tobacco Wars. Tracy Campbell, 2015
7% based on: Documents of the Assembly of the State of New York, Vol. 4. 1979.
3.
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n4/v70n4p49.html
70-80%, according to: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations/361631/#ii-a-difference-of-kind-not-degree
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2010-08-05/html/CREC-2010-08-05-pt1-PgS6836.htm
http://www.farmaid.org/atf/cf/{6ef41923-f003-4e0f-a4a6-ae0031db12fb}/FARM_AID_2014_ISSUE_BRIEF-BLACK_FARMING_AND_LAND_LOSS.PDF
http://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/lui.pdf
http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=jlasc
4.
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2014/demo/p60-249.pdf
Dime based on: http://www.insightcced.org/uploads/CRWG/LayingTheFoundationForNationalProsperity-MeizhuLui0309.pdf
http://newsreel.org/guides/race/whiteadv.htm
$59 trillion: http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2013/01/calculated-minimum-reparation-due-to.html
$15 trillion: National Legal and Policy Center, http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-reparations-black-farmers/2010/02/21/id/350458/
$25 trillion: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-11/23/047r-112399-idx.html
Martin Luther King: http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2014/07/mlk_s_case_for_reparations_included_disadvantaged_whites.html
Sources:
Introduction
http://theconversation.com/slavery-in-america-back-in-the-headlines-33004
http://www.civil-war.net/census.asp?census=Total
1.
1.5 million pounds in 1790 and 2.25 billion pounds in 1859, based on Empire of Cotton, by Sven Beckert (2014) pgs. 104, 106
77% based on: Cotton and Race in the Making of America: The Human Costs of Economic Power, by Gene Dattel (2009)
http://mshistorynow.mdah.state.ms.us/articles/161/cotton-in-a-global-economy-mississippi-1800-1860
Joshua Rothman, email correspondence, 2015
http://eh.net/encyclopedia/the-economics-of-the-civil-war/
http://abrahamlincolnsclassroom.org/abraham-lincoln-in-depth/abraham-lincoln-and-civil-war-finance
48.3% in 1860 according to Gavin Wright, Slavery and American Economic Development (LSU Press, 2006, paperback 2013) [personal communication]
2.
http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=jlasc
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/dc_emancipation_act/
http://philosophy.fullerton.edu/people/2007 - Heiner - Abolition Democracy - Rad Phil Today 5.pdf
http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/slavery_in.PDF
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21583992-fifty-years-after-martin-luther-kings-speech-fixing-americas-racial-ills-requires-new/comments?page=8
The Politics of Despair: Power and Resistance in the Tobacco Wars. Tracy Campbell, 2015
7% based on: Documents of the Assembly of the State of New York, Vol. 4. 1979.
3.
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n4/v70n4p49.html
70-80%, according to: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations/361631/#ii-a-difference-of-kind-not-degree
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2010-08-05/html/CREC-2010-08-05-pt1-PgS6836.htm
http://www.farmaid.org/atf/cf/{6ef41923-f003-4e0f-a4a6-ae0031db12fb}/FARM_AID_2014_ISSUE_BRIEF-BLACK_FARMING_AND_LAND_LOSS.PDF
http://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/lui.pdf
http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=jlasc
4.
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2014/demo/p60-249.pdf
Dime based on: http://www.insightcced.org/uploads/CRWG/LayingTheFoundationForNationalProsperity-MeizhuLui0309.pdf
http://newsreel.org/guides/race/whiteadv.htm
$59 trillion: http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2013/01/calculated-minimum-reparation-due-to.html
$15 trillion: National Legal and Policy Center, http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-reparations-black-farmers/2010/02/21/id/350458/
$25 trillion: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-11/23/047r-112399-idx.html
Martin Luther King: http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2014/07/mlk_s_case_for_reparations_included_disadvantaged_whites.html
Comments
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We not getting the ? let it go! Lol..
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damobb2deep wrote: »We not getting the ? let it go! Lol..
we let EVERYTHING go though...where does a line get drawn and a standard of any sort get set -
^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations
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That's about 120,000 for every black person
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? aren't getting ? .
This is like trying to hold ya parents responsible for breaking their promise of taking you to Disney summer of '89.
Yes these cacs have ? us over, but who do you think is going to be the one to decide to give us reparations? -
I Self Lord & Master wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »We not getting the ? let it go! Lol..
we let EVERYTHING go though...where does a line get drawn and a standard of any sort get set
The line should have STARTED with letting reparations go.. its been 150 years bruh.. and this country is not going to fold trying to keep a dream that was sold to people (all of which are dead now).. now anything that effects us now... yes fight for that.. but ? like that should be let go... -
any one have any details of how Johnnie Cochran planned to go on his reparations crusade? He was on that when he passed
at the very least, a mass scale class action lawsuit against the federal government over forcefully and illegally acquired properties of ours should be considered...too many of us got them stories in our families -
damobb2deep wrote: »I Self Lord & Master wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »We not getting the ? let it go! Lol..
we let EVERYTHING go though...where does a line get drawn and a standard of any sort get set
The line should have STARTED with letting reparations go.. its been 200 years bruh.. and this country is not going to fold trying to keep a dream that was sold to people (all of which are dead now).. now anything that effects us now... yes fight for that.. but ? like that should be let go...
the slavery era ended in the 60s, 200 years my ass... -
King Erauno wrote: »^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations
Lol so what we gone do hashtag ourselves into the land that they "owe" us? -
King Erauno wrote: »^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations
As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be. -
damobb2deep wrote: »We not getting the ? let it go! Lol..
lmaooo I promise it's coming, we just gotta use the ones who speak like this to our advantage and keep their mouths shut
#4 though...but brothers will swear up and down we've made progress -
This country has given reparations to other groups, it's time for the United States to pay up.
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King Erauno wrote: »^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations
As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.
how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power -
damobb2deep wrote: »We not getting the ? let it go! Lol..
lmaooo I promise it's coming, we just gotta use the ones who speak like this to our advantage and keep their mouths shut
#4 though...but brothers will swear up and down we've made progress
Progress is COMPLETELY different than an this.. -
Japanese get reparations... Jews get reparations... Native Americans get reparations... Haiti got a good deal of their loan forgiven... Black Americans, ? ya and let it go... It happened years ago and you're playing the victim with your race baiting...
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If people can't stand together to get this done, you can't possibly think we as individuals will elevate the standing of our race or pull together to do the little things in combination it will take to reverse the effects of slavery
There's no way to reverse what's been done or rebound w/o acknowledgment of what was done by the govt in some form of reparations...so if you've given up on the idea of that, you've given up on the idea of Black people in America. You're content to die just as your ancestors did, a slave -
This country has given reparations to other groups, it's time for the United States to pay up.
Question... would you willingly to go homeless because you told your neighbor "if the Cleveland Browns ever win a superbowl I will sell you my house"
This country is not going to fold because of a 150 year old promise.. -
I Self Lord & Master wrote: »King Erauno wrote: »^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations
As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.
how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power
Because it's a waste of time. That's why. If we build, we build from inside out, starting with our households, then moving education then to electing officials who genuinely have our best interests in mind and using our voting power to get em out of there if they not serious, then we can get it on the agenda because they respect our gangsta now. Hashtag movements and marches are only products of knee ? reactions with knee ? , microwave solutions. The world has become more sophisticated, and if there is good work to be done, it must be done standing on solid ground. They appease us with ? , and we wonder why we keep goin through the same ? , it's because our power is not what we think it is.
For instance...... Teen gets shot, hashtags, marches, jesse jackson or whoever the ? they sendin for a week...Then....Back to normal, rinse and repeat. We hold the solution, but it's time to think different to achieve it. We keep thinkin the same, we gon stay the same. ? been talkin about reparations since the 1800s bruh. The same dull convo, they don't respect us in Washington because we ain't earned it, and lost what little bit we had.
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? that, I want my money bruh
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Focal Point wrote: »Japanese get reparations... Jews get reparations... Native Americans get reparations... Haiti got a good deal of their loan forgiven... Black Americans, ? ya and let it go... It happened years ago and you're playing the victim with your race baiting...
None of those demographics are over 10 percent of the total population of America either..
BTW if we DID get reparations wtf are most going to do with it... all of our problems are not going to miraculously over because we got something from the government... -
Whitey:? take your water fountain rights and shut the ? up
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T. Sanford wrote: »? that, I want my money bruh
But if you never get it would it really effect you? -
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I Self Lord & Master wrote: »King Erauno wrote: »^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations
As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.
how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power
Because it's a waste of time. That's why. If we build, we build from inside out, starting with our households, then moving education then to electing officials who genuinely have our best interests in mind and using our voting power to get em out of there if they not serious, then we can get it on the agenda because they respect our gangsta now. Hashtag movements and marches are only products of knee ? reactions with knee ? , microwave solutions. The world has become more sophisticated, and if there is good work to be done, it must be done standing on solid ground. They appease us with ? , and we wonder why we keep goin through the same ? , it's because our power is not what we think it is.
For instance...... Teen gets shot, hashtags, marches, jesse jackson or whoever the ? they sendin for a week...Then....Back to normal, rinse and repeat. We hold the solution, but it's time to think different to achieve it. We keep thinkin the same, we gon stay the same. ? been talkin about reparations since the 1800s bruh. The same dull convo, they don't respect us in Washington because we ain't earned it, and lost what little bit we had.
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive
this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that..it aint a waste of time...it can simply be an extension of black history if we get our kids out of white institutions -
I Self Lord & Master wrote: »i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive
this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that
Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk ? about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..
Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..