*f-cking dead* Amber Rose Organizing "? Walk" Protest To Combat ? -Shaming
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? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been. -
desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Sexism and racism work together to create a hierarchical social structure where affluent white men are on top
And fosters an environment that is not only hostile for women but blks as well
You want equality well it's counterproductive to continue to to ? shame, subscribe to sexist double standards
Utter and total ?
Expound
You state that sexism and racism work in tandem to keep white men affluent and that's the reason why they are on top and every one else below.
But you discount that we live in a capitalistic democracy and that white people are the sole biggest population Therefore they will naturally be the most affluent population. If you remove sexism and racism whites will still be on top of the social structure because money and wealth are the greatest determining factors that decide status in a capitalistic society. Followed by race and then sex.
A capitalistic environment is intrinsically hostile because it's based on competition, IT'S the white family vs the black family for the use of economic resources. men have to play their role and women have to play their role when this works in harmony we are capable to attaining gains in this system when women/men engage in behaviors that ? with this harmony we are weakened as a whole . Men will not respect ? AND IF WE DON'T respect you we won't be inclined to marry you, because just like money ? has value based on it's level of rarity. Now being that the family in the basic building block of any society if we don't marry you then it weaken black society within the usa.
so we ? shame you to disincentive behaviors that make you undesirable as mates.
Marriage between a woman and man is great and all
But it doesn't pay the bills
Just think back when families, marriages were supposedly the strongest we still were largely impoverished and/or treated like second class citizens
Has there ever been a time in America when the blk community not just pockets has prospered?
Smh
And still you chase the rich white man's patriarchy and wealth, when we should be focusing on creating economic/ social policies that uplift all types of families particularly the most fragile
I want his wealth no ? doubt and any race not chasing that wealth is ? stupid. Also the bolded maked no ? sense of course marriage pays the bills married couples usually have two incomes or even if the wife is a housewife she can still find ways to economically contribute to the household.
? uplifting all families. uplift the family of the competition???? WTF are you crazy
When black marriages were stronger we had a much better economic situation. Today they still treat us like second class citizens AND feminism has not helped us one bit. Now we are in a worse position, because we own nothing our communities are crime infested AND we cannot provide our children with jobs. our men have no respect for the women the women have no respect for the men and we seemingly have no morals.
AND YES THERE have been times when the black community has prospered in certain places black wall street and harlem for example.
As for patriarchy if a black patriarchy is what it takes to fix our social problems and get us to a place were we can economically compete with the other races in america then so be it. Winning is what counts not the feelings of one sex. -
Family makes people weak if anything.
As does religion. -
? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been.
What wrong with that it ????? it works it produces positive results is what we are doing now working ???? if you go to any top school now most of the top black students come from two parent families. whole marriages. it's part of the reason nigerians are doing so good in school the families have ? order and are balanced. -
? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been.
What wrong with that it ????? it works it produces positive results is what we are doing now working ???? if you go to any top school now most of the top black students come from two parent families. whole marriages. it's part of the reason nigerians are doing so good in school the families have ? order and are balanced.
Correlation is not causation; Case in point, Obama was raised by his mother. -
? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been.
What wrong with that it ????? it works it produces positive results is what we are doing now working ???? if you go to any top school now most of the top black students come from two parent families. whole marriages. it's part of the reason nigerians are doing so good in school the families have ? order and are balanced.
Correlation is not causation; Case in point, Obama was raised by his mother.
Obama is not really african american he is however black. Where there is smoke there's fire sometimes correlation in enough. -
? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been.
What wrong with that it ????? it works it produces positive results is what we are doing now working ???? if you go to any top school now most of the top black students come from two parent families. whole marriages. it's part of the reason nigerians are doing so good in school the families have ? order and are balanced.
Correlation is not causation; Case in point, Obama was raised by his mother.
Obama is not really african american he is however black. Where there is smoke there's fire sometimes correlation in enough.
He was born in Hawaii, African father, therefore African American. Did you really post that? -
? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been.
What wrong with that it ????? it works it produces positive results is what we are doing now working ???? if you go to any top school now most of the top black students come from two parent families. whole marriages. it's part of the reason nigerians are doing so good in school the families have ? order and are balanced.
Correlation is not causation; Case in point, Obama was raised by his mother.
Obama is not really african american he is however black. Where there is smoke there's fire sometimes correlation in enough.
He was born in Hawaii, African father, therefore African American. Did you really post that?
You are from canada right???? african americans are there own ethnic group and obama does not belong you have to be a descendant of african slaves to be an african american. -
? shaming is mainly done by other women
True but the context is missing. Women who have been socialized into being prudish (for lack of a better term) are the one's doing the criticizing.
Just like those ? that like say stupid ? against other black people, it's the white dominated society has created that thought process.
Look, people may disagree with me but marriage is about ownership, it's about property, always has been.
What wrong with that it ????? it works it produces positive results is what we are doing now working ???? if you go to any top school now most of the top black students come from two parent families. whole marriages. it's part of the reason nigerians are doing so good in school the families have ? order and are balanced.
I'm not saying whether it works or not, but this is how this particular society is structured.
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@desertrain10
Why are you acting like this ? is a respectable woman and a great mother? She is a well known ? and there is proof of her thotish antics all over the place. This woman and her antics aint nothing to go full feminist over. This ? just want attention and to ease the pain of her past and present. We all have seen this movie before, nothing to see here. You gone defend/cosign/agree with paris hilton, black chyna, super head, and kim k next?
Most of the time when I see a "respectable woman" putting on a cape for a ? in any kind of way it's either two things. 1. That's her potna and she gone ride for her no matter what. 2. She is a reformed ? herself or got skeletons in her closet.
That's why any and everything a THOT do or say to try and change the outlook on their behavior is hit with this
Like somebody said already, we don't hate ? like amber ? 's. WE LOVE DEEZ ? 'S for the role they play in society. ? liker her been around since forever. Without these thots there wouldn't be PORN, STRIPPERS, PROFESSIONAL ? , STREET ? , LATE NIGHT DESPERATE ? , VIDEO ? 'S WITH ASS A ? BOUNCING EVERYWHERE, ? MODELS, AND ? MAGAZINES. As long as they play they roles then it's -
Women who consider themselves as ? or ? are not women of substance.
i wouldnt want a woman who refers to herself as a ? or ? raising my daughter. -
desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Sexism and racism work together to create a hierarchical social structure where affluent white men are on top
And fosters an environment that is not only hostile for women but blks as well
You want equality well it's counterproductive to continue to to ? shame, subscribe to sexist double standards
Utter and total ?
Expound
You state that sexism and racism work in tandem to keep white men affluent and that's the reason why they are on top and every one else below.
But you discount that we live in a capitalistic democracy and that white people are the sole biggest population Therefore they will naturally be the most affluent population. If you remove sexism and racism whites will still be on top of the social structure because money and wealth are the greatest determining factors that decide status in a capitalistic society. Followed by race and then sex.
A capitalistic environment is intrinsically hostile because it's based on competition, IT'S the white family vs the black family for the use of economic resources. men have to play their role and women have to play their role when this works in harmony we are capable to attaining gains in this system when women/men engage in behaviors that ? with this harmony we are weakened as a whole . Men will not respect ? AND IF WE DON'T respect you we won't be inclined to marry you, because just like money ? has value based on it's level of rarity. Now being that the family in the basic building block of any society if we don't marry you then it weaken black society within the usa.
so we ? shame you to disincentive behaviors that make you undesirable as mates.
Marriage between a woman and man is great and all
But it doesn't pay the bills
Just think back when families, marriages were supposedly the strongest we still were largely impoverished and/or treated like second class citizens
Has there ever been a time in America when the blk community not just pockets has prospered?
Smh
And still you chase the rich white man's patriarchy and wealth, when we should be focusing on creating economic/ social policies that uplift all types of families particularly the most fragile
I want his wealth no ? doubt and any race not chasing that wealth is ? stupid. Also the bolded maked no ? sense of course marriage pays the bills married couples usually have two incomes or even if the wife is a housewife she can still find ways to economically contribute to the household.
? uplifting all families. uplift the family of the competition???? WTF are you crazy
When black marriages were stronger we had a much better economic situation. Today they still treat us like second class citizens AND feminism has not helped us one bit. Now we are in a worse position, because we own nothing our communities are crime infested AND we cannot provide our children with jobs. our men have no respect for the women the women have no respect for the men and we seemingly have no morals.
AND YES THERE have been times when the black community has prospered in certain places black wall street and harlem for example.
As for patriarchy if a black patriarchy is what it takes to fix our social problems and get us to a place were we can economically compete with the other races in america then so be it. Winning is what counts not the feelings of one sex.
1. My point was marriage is not a cure for poverty. Two incomes help but marriage isnt going to magically uplift a family out of poverty.
We aren't marrying because when people feel as though they can't afford a wedding or to support a family they often choose not to marry
That has always been the case
Marriage has been largely for the well off
2.Harlem and Black WallStreet were the exception to the rule ...
3. Our problem isn't a lack of morals but instutionalized racism
4. Your insistence on blaming feminism for the state of blk America is ignorant and short sighted... Our problems began way before feminism made its way to Americas shores
5. The pursuit of the wealth and status of white men can be counterproductive
This idea that we could all be rich, well off families is not based in reality considering our current economic system
It has people working against their own economic interest, or voting for yet another tax cut for corporations hoping that will say be head of their own corporation
Doing so even if it's at the expense of funding to pay for a blk single mother to be able to afford for child care, or funding that to help programs that employ ex felons
? is ridiculous
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desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Sexism and racism work together to create a hierarchical social structure where affluent white men are on top
And fosters an environment that is not only hostile for women but blks as well
You want equality well it's counterproductive to continue to to ? shame, subscribe to sexist double standards
Utter and total ?
Expound
You state that sexism and racism work in tandem to keep white men affluent and that's the reason why they are on top and every one else below.
But you discount that we live in a capitalistic democracy and that white people are the sole biggest population Therefore they will naturally be the most affluent population. If you remove sexism and racism whites will still be on top of the social structure because money and wealth are the greatest determining factors that decide status in a capitalistic society. Followed by race and then sex.
A capitalistic environment is intrinsically hostile because it's based on competition, IT'S the white family vs the black family for the use of economic resources. men have to play their role and women have to play their role when this works in harmony we are capable to attaining gains in this system when women/men engage in behaviors that ? with this harmony we are weakened as a whole . Men will not respect ? AND IF WE DON'T respect you we won't be inclined to marry you, because just like money ? has value based on it's level of rarity. Now being that the family in the basic building block of any society if we don't marry you then it weaken black society within the usa.
so we ? shame you to disincentive behaviors that make you undesirable as mates.
Marriage between a woman and man is great and all
But it doesn't pay the bills
Just think back when families, marriages were supposedly the strongest we still were largely impoverished and/or treated like second class citizens
Has there ever been a time in America when the blk community not just pockets has prospered?
Smh
And still you chase the rich white man's patriarchy and wealth, when we should be focusing on creating economic/ social policies that uplift all types of families particularly the most fragile
I want his wealth no ? doubt and any race not chasing that wealth is ? stupid. Also the bolded maked no ? sense of course marriage pays the bills married couples usually have two incomes or even if the wife is a housewife she can still find ways to economically contribute to the household.
? uplifting all families. uplift the family of the competition???? WTF are you crazy
When black marriages were stronger we had a much better economic situation. Today they still treat us like second class citizens AND feminism has not helped us one bit. Now we are in a worse position, because we own nothing our communities are crime infested AND we cannot provide our children with jobs. our men have no respect for the women the women have no respect for the men and we seemingly have no morals.
AND YES THERE have been times when the black community has prospered in certain places black wall street and harlem for example.
As for patriarchy if a black patriarchy is what it takes to fix our social problems and get us to a place were we can economically compete with the other races in america then so be it. Winning is what counts not the feelings of one sex.
1. My point was marriage is not a cure for poverty. Two incomes help but marriage isnt going to magically uplift a family out of poverty.
We aren't marrying because when people feel as though they can't afford a wedding or to support a family they often choose not to marry
That has always been the case
Marriage has been largely for the well off
2.Harlem and Black WallStreet were the exception to the rule ...
3. Our problem isn't a lack of morals but instutionalized racism
4. Your insistence on blaming feminism for the state of blk America is ignorant and short sighted... Our problems began way before feminism made its way to Americas shores
5. The pursuit of the wealth and status of white men can be counterproductive
This idea that we could all be rich, well off families is not based in reality considering our current economic system
It has people working against their own economic interest, or voting for yet another tax cut for corporations hoping that will say be head of their own corporation
Doing so even if it's at the expense of funding to pay for a blk single mother to be able to afford for child care, or funding that to help programs that employ ex felons
? is ridiculous
1. you are taking my points to extremes i never meant them to be taken to, the only cure for poverty is wealth marriage is not a 100% way to build wealth but studies have shown than children born into married couples are richer and do better in life they are more intelligent and become richer adults thus over time marriage benefits the race because even if the parents stay poor odds are in their favor that their children will attain higher economic status
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/11/30/two-parent-families-have-decreased-economic-inequality-has-grown/1CyqxfjZ4mUVBbWsuZ01zI/story.html
2. Harlem and black wall street are the shining examples but there were many more of less grander scale, today we have less than we did back then in terms of wealth not just money
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/08/30/black-incomes-are-up-but-wealth-isnt/
3. Our problems is lack of morals and instutionalized racism one of these two things we have it within our power to fix today. Yet don't because foolish ideologies like feminism have weakened our family structure and family plays a major role in creation ones morals and values.
4. Black problems began in slavery and continued pass the civil rights era but feminism exacerbated many of our issues look at the hate and disrespect black men have for black women now
5. The pursuit of wealth is the basis for the system we are living in, without wealth you are most likely going to be a victim. The black community is preyed upon because we don't have the affective economic strength to fight back, they don't over police higher class neighborhoods. There would be fewer black single mothers and ex-cons if we had that wealth. I don't know where you got this idea that i think we would all be super rich, no. Many of us will still be poor but this number would shrink and there condition would be better if we killed off certain ideologies.
In 2015 unless you are talking about economic power you are talking about nothing our social lives and feelings must also facilitate greater economic attainment. -
BFFN Gang ? Famous For Nothing
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On the serious side, I have no problem with a ? and I think more shaming comes from women to women on that or fathers to protect daughters.
On the other side: that's gonna be one helluva orgy....I mean march if she pulls this off. Unfortunately, they'll probably have more guys there than women.
But really, really how many women you gonna have marching or protesting the right to be a ? ? It's unrealistic
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What do you think of the idea?
I agree with it. Shaming only women for engaging in the exact same sexual behavior that men do is irrational, I don't understand how anyone justifies it. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with either men or women being promiscuous (by whatever standard) even if it isn't always prudential.
I haven't read most of the thread.
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Did this ever actually happen?
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I'm there!
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soul rattler wrote: »Did this ever actually happen?
Yes and it was amazing -
Stop bumping this old ass ? , dont nobody care about that tennis ball head ? or her ? walk
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? dont walk they suck
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soul rattler wrote: »Did this ever actually happen?
Yes and it was amazing
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desertrain10 wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »
Me the troll? Lol
The way u are stubbornly trying to make it seem as though no double standard exist, and male and female promiscuity are viewed by soceity in the same light leads me to believe u are the troll
As I already stated fact is guys who sleep around are perceived differently than women who do the same
It's undeniable
That's why I believe it's about policing womens bodies
If you can't even come to terms with that, we have nothing further to discuss
I'm not trolling. As I said before. I've explained why it's not a real double standard on multiple occasions, but if you'd like me to do so again I will.
For something to be a double standard, two parties have to be treated differently for some reason when all other things are equal.
There is a double standard when it comes to how women are paid because a woman can go into a company and do the same exact job as men (sometimes bettesexand still get paid a lower amount. That is a true double standard.
This whole ? vs playa ? isn't really a double standard because all other things are not equal due to traditional gender roles. The roles men and women are expected to play in sexuality and relationships are different. Men are expected to be the pursuers. Women are expected to be the discriminators and choosers.
Men get called playas or pimps or whatever you want to call it because if they have a lot of sex that means they have some set of skills or characteristics that lead to them getting chosen frequently. So besides simply having the sex, they are actually accomplishing something.
Women don't get that same respect when they have a lot of sex because they don't have to accomplish anything to have sex. It literally comes to them. Most women get hit on from sun up to sun down, so there is nothing particularly impressive getting a lot of ? . In fact, it really just meaning you're not playing that "discriminator" role too well.
The analogy I always use is that men are set up to be hunters and women are set up to be prey. The lion that can get the ? every time it goes out is going to be treated as a valued member of the pride. The gazelle that lays down and lets the lion get it is just food. There is nothing respectable about that.
It's not a double standard. That doesn't mean its fair. Women have the same urges men do, so they shouldn't necessarily be relegated solely to a role of discriminating between who offer is the best, but that's how the traditional gender roles are set up. Which is I've been saying this whole time that if you want to get rid of this so-called double standard, the best way is to get rid of the gender roles. And you don't do that by continuing to accept the role but complaining about the treatment you receive when you break the rules of that role. That's stupid
And lol @ women not accomplishing anything by having sex
While we may not always initiate contact, we accomplish and set the same goals as a man
And when we do intiate contact it can be with something as simple as a smile or a long stare
Than we also must first find a willing partner with whom find suitable to help satisfy our urges
But I disagress u admit women have the same urges men do and that all that needs to be said
We shouldn't be viewed any differently than men for acting on those urges
That is all that needs to be said
You can say that all you want and it will still be besides the point. Men aren't praised for simply having a it of sex. If that were the case dudes would get praised for buying prostitutes or ? fat and/or ugly chicks with low self confidence and no standards, but that's not the case. Men get praised for having the tools necessary to get lots of sex from desirable females. That praise would make no sense for females because y'all don't need any special skills to get sex. No matter how much you sidestep that point, it will still be true. -
I would eat Amber's ? out like it was the Last Supper
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and then I would reverse slam dunk my ? in that mouf of her