Leaked DNC emails reveal secret plans to take on Sanders

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  • Jabu_Rule
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Jabu_Rule wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    C'mon they got caught red-handed rigging the primary process in favor of Clinton.

    It's funny how when ? like this happens in the context of sports it's a bigger deal than if global politics are at stake.

    Can you point out specific incidents of rigging that haven't been debunked?

    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-democratic-primary-wasnt-rigged/

    What has upset me, and what I think is—I wouldn’t use the word rigged, because we knew what the rules were—but what is really dumb is that you have closed primaries, like in New York state, where three million people who are Democrats or Republicans could not participate, where you have situation where over 400 superdelegates came on board Clinton’s campaign before anybody else was in the race, eight months before the first vote was cast.

    That’s not rigged. I think it’s just a dumb process, which has certainly disadvantaged our campaign.
    -Bernie's own words.
      Nor did superdelegates decide the nomination for Clinton. They gave her a symbolic early lead and momentum, but Clinton’s pledged delegate lead over Sanders was three times larger than Obama’s margin over Clinton in 2008, under the same rules. I’m in favor of abolishing superdelegates or curtailing their influence, but it’s worth remembering that they’ve followed the pledged-delegate winner in every presidential contest since their creation in 1984.

    Secondly, the Clinton campaign did not intentionally try to suppress the votes of Sanders supporters. Some Sanders supporters point to Arizona, where there were five-hour lines in Phoenix’s Maricopa County during the March 22 primary, as a glaring example of malfeasance. But those lines occurred because Republican clerk Helen Purcell cut the number of polling places from 200 in 2012 to just 60 in 2016—a decision made possible by a 5-4 conservative majority on the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act and ruling that states like Arizona no longer had to approve their voting changes with the federal government.

    Clinton strenuously criticized that decision and sued Arizona over the polling place closures, a lawsuit the Sanders campaign joined. Latino voters in Maricopa County, who were most affected by the long lines, strongly supported Clinton and she won the state overall by 15 points. Why would she disenfranchise her own supporters?

    Voter-suppression accusations were also rampant after the New York primary. Sanders backers falsely accused Clinton of supporting a controversial purge of 125,000 registered voters in Brooklyn. Of the inactive voters purged in Brooklyn, only 8 percent of whom voted in 2012, 5 percent were 18 to 29 and 61 percent were black and Hispanic. While Sanders won young voters in New York by 30 points, Clinton won black voters by 50 points and Latino voters by 38 points, groups whose numbers were much more likely to be lessened by the purge, and carried Brooklyn by 20 points overall. The purge, to the extent that it mattered, hurt Clinton far more than Sanders. “We are very concerned about it because we believe we probably lost a lot of votes there,” said Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri.

    I could go on and on, but the point is that the outlandish claims fall apart when subjected to closer scrutiny.

    Dude... trying to sabotage the Sander's campaign counts as rigging. Period.

    All that other stuff you wrote about was suspicious but done within a realm of deniability so we don't even have to get into the debate schedules, the DNC withholding mailing lists or the mysterious voter purges and ridiculous lines in areas that were polling heavy for Sanders - but I will say that my registration, like many others in NY, was changed from D to independent at some point in the past 8 years without my knowledge. Good though - saved me the trouble.
    The DNC blocked the campaign from the resource Friday after a Sanders staffer accessed data collected and organized by Hillary Clinton's campaign.
    "Clearly, while the information was made available to our campaign because of the incompetence of the vendor, it should not have been looked at, period," Weaver added.
    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/06/14/harvard-study-confirms-refutes-bernie-sanderss-complaints-media
    Bernie Sanders may have suppressed the vote in Puerto Rico, with an official coming forward on Sunday to accuse his campaign of requesting a massive cut in polling places that ultimately led to lines of several hours for voters.
    http://www.inquisitr.com/3173097/did-bernie-sanders-suppress-voting-in-puerto-rico-officials-accuse-sanders-campaign-of-requesting-drastic-cut-in-polling-places-leading-to-long-lines/
    Sanders was the most favorably reported candidate—Republican or Democratic—during the invisible primary,” the study said.
    The study found that Sanders’s ability to gain traction nationally early on was crucially hurt by the media’s obsession with the Republican side of the race, chiefly Donald Trump
    In comparison, though Hillary Clinton received the benefit of a higher volume of coverage, she was suffered from the least favorable coverage among leading presidential contenders in both parties
    Whereas media coverage helped build up Trump, it helped tear down Clinton. Trump’s positive coverage was the equivalent of millions of dollars in ad-buys in his favor, whereas Clinton’s negative coverage can be equated to millions of dollars in attack ads, with her on the receiving end.
    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/06/14/harvard-study-confirms-refutes-bernie-sanderss-complaints-media

    Negative News Sells.

    The only thing left that was screwed up was non-inactive voters being removed which you weren't one of them. You should have gotten a notice though. Regardless, hillary already had a commanding lead in that state and what i posted showed that even with those votes going to Bernie, he would have lost. Regardless of the banter that was in those emails, none of what they discussed came to pass.
  • janklow
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    Jabu_Rule wrote: »
    Come to find out. They were shititng on Clinton too. Talking about selective outrage.
    ? on is one thing; putting your thumb on the scale is another.

    also going to point out that the DNC said they didn't tolerate the kind of language used in the emails... despite only seeming to give a ? about it when they got busted.
  • SneakDZA
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    If you're going to continue to ignore the fact that the DNC got caught trying to scuttle Sander's campaign there's no point in us continuing here.
  • Jabu_Rule
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    If you're going to continue to ignore the fact that the DNC got caught trying to scuttle Sander's campaign there's no point in us continuing here.
    Regardless of the banter that was in those emails, none of what they discussed came to pass
    Can you point out specific incidents of rigging that haven't been debunked?
  • scoop1215
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    There are more emails coming stay tunned
  • SneakDZA
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    Jabu_Rule wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    If you're going to continue to ignore the fact that the DNC got caught trying to scuttle Sander's campaign there's no point in us continuing here.
    Regardless of the banter that was in those emails, none of what they discussed came to pass
    Can you point out specific incidents of rigging that haven't been debunked?

  • Jabu_Rule
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Jabu_Rule wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    If you're going to continue to ignore the fact that the DNC got caught trying to scuttle Sander's campaign there's no point in us continuing here.
    Regardless of the banter that was in those emails, none of what they discussed came to pass
    Can you point out specific incidents of rigging that haven't been debunked?

    They got caught talking. How do you try after the campaign was over? Show me where their talking turned to action which is what trying implies. It also hasn't been shown that they were doing anything other than joking out of frustration. Most of those topics were already out in the air, but they didn't touch it.

    Did You Catch How Bernie Sanders Responded When Jimmy Kimmel Asked: ‘Do You Believe in ? ?’
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/23/did-you-catch-how-bernie-sanders-responded-when-jimmy-kimmel-asked-do-you-believe-in-? /
  • Lou Cypher
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  • scoop1215
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    Think we found the dnc whistleblower.

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-in-Northwest-DC-386316391.html

    Source: 27-Year-Old DNC Staffer Seth Rich Shot, Killed in Northwest DC | NBC4 Washington

    Hillary Clinton spoke about Rich on Tuesday morning, amid remarks in New Hamphire on gun violence.
    "Just this past Sunday, a young man, Seth Rich -- who worked for the Democratic National Committee, to expand voting rights -- was shot and killed in his neighborhood in Washington. He was just 27 years old," she said. "Surely we can agree that weapons of war have no place on the streets of America."


    good old arkancide strikes again
  • scoop1215
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  • BIGG WILL
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    scoop1215 wrote: »
    Think we found the dnc whistleblower.

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-in-Northwest-DC-386316391.html

    Source: 27-Year-Old DNC Staffer Seth Rich Shot, Killed in Northwest DC | NBC4 Washington

    Hillary Clinton spoke about Rich on Tuesday morning, amid remarks in New Hamphire on gun violence.
    "Just this past Sunday, a young man, Seth Rich -- who worked for the Democratic National Committee, to expand voting rights -- was shot and killed in his neighborhood in Washington. He was just 27 years old," she said. "Surely we can agree that weapons of war have no place on the streets of America."


    good old arkancide strikes again

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726250/Enemies-Hillary-Bill-say-27-year-old-murder-victim-Seth-Rich-suspected-leaking-DNC-emails-belongs-Clinton-Death-List-people-ties-couple-died-time.html

    Yesterday Wikileaks announced it is offering a reward -$20,000 - for information leading to a conviction in the murder case, adding fuel to the flames of conspiracy theories that the Clintons are somehow involved in Rich's death


  • D. Morgan
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    BIGG WILL wrote: »
    scoop1215 wrote: »
    Think we found the dnc whistleblower.

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-in-Northwest-DC-386316391.html

    Source: 27-Year-Old DNC Staffer Seth Rich Shot, Killed in Northwest DC | NBC4 Washington

    Hillary Clinton spoke about Rich on Tuesday morning, amid remarks in New Hamphire on gun violence.
    "Just this past Sunday, a young man, Seth Rich -- who worked for the Democratic National Committee, to expand voting rights -- was shot and killed in his neighborhood in Washington. He was just 27 years old," she said. "Surely we can agree that weapons of war have no place on the streets of America."


    good old arkancide strikes again

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726250/Enemies-Hillary-Bill-say-27-year-old-murder-victim-Seth-Rich-suspected-leaking-DNC-emails-belongs-Clinton-Death-List-people-ties-couple-died-time.html

    Yesterday Wikileaks announced it is offering a reward -$20,000 - for information leading to a conviction in the murder case, adding fuel to the flames of conspiracy theories that the Clintons are somehow involved in Rich's death


    See ? like that leads to false convictions just to say they got somebody for the ? . More than likely if they catch someone it just might be on some Chandra Levy ? . In case yall don't know about the new ? and the Chandra Levy case.

    The recording that undid the Chandra Levy murder case

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-recording-that-undid-the-chandra-levy-murder-case/2016/08/06/0ce8b72a-5b45-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html
  • SolemnSauce
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    JJ_Evans wrote: »
    Some of you brothers are lazy and refuse to educate yourselves.



    Wikileaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence

    https://20committee.com/2015/08/31/wikileaks-is-a-front-for-russian-intelligence/


    Assange says Snowden’s escape to Russia was his idea

    https://www.rt.com/news/313829-assange-advise-snowden-russia/



    Why are their ties to Russia important?..........



    Why Russia Is Rejoicing Over Trump

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/2016-trump-putin-russia-gop-platform-214074


    Wikileaks, Russia, and Trump are working as a team to get Donald Trump elected. Stop being dumb, black men.

    Russia does not fear America, Russia fears China. Rather, Putin fears china. Putin does not like americans, or American ideals of excess and power, capitalism. I'm sure at one point before he realized what America really is. He wanted America destroyed.

    Putin realizes that America is the world's referee. He realized America has to exist as a super power to prevent other super powers from trying to over take others. And America should do so in their own best Interest.

    America shouldnt be a part of Nato, there Shouldn't be a Nato. America is self sustained only by its military complex. We don't actually, really make anything anymore but weapons and money. At the same time, the thing keeping America afloat is the thing weakening us.

    More and more in debt to Russia's real enemy. Putin is smart and is not think of today, this year, or next year. He is thinking years from now. He sees a weakened America unable to defend Russia from China should they ever feel like ...? Russia

    Real threat or not, as a man who loves his country and a leader. He has to forsee these things. At least in his mind, so he's tryna slap America outta it's H like comatose state. Saying wake up, stop trying to protect everyone, stop making war with everyone. Stop killing yourself and referee the game like you're spoSe to.

    Real talk, Reagan wasn't a great politicain Reagain was Trump. A face to a feeling, the people around Reagan ran America and put him out as a face their supporters trusted. "Smile look at the camera, just say no" On front street those of them still alive keep the image of him alive tho for their greater good.

    Think about it, of every famous person you have ever known. After they pass, someone from their inner circle has negative things to say about them. You ever heard anything negative said about Reagan from anyone near to him. No man is that great, but no great image is merely a man.

    Anyway b, Putin if anything thinks he can get the same from Trump. He knows Trump knows the whole Reagan thing is ? . That's why no real conservative movement has been made against him. Trump got tons of demons and conservatives with money are evil mufuckas.

    The answer is usually the most simple things if you really look at the entire picture.

    Did I not call it?

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    Goat me