The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years To Build The Wealth Of A White Family Today

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  • Olorun22
    Olorun22 Members Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    jews didn't have a nation of their own for a long ? time but they still managed to become wealthy and influential as ? even before the holocaust.

    Jews weren't submitted to the same institutional discrimination though, so I'm no even sure why you'd make that comparison.

    Not to mention that there was also no shortage of Jews who became wealthy by exploiting blacks and others. Look at the music industry as an example.

    yeah but they suffered well over 1000 years of discrimination and hatred in western nations... the point is that black people have to stop this crying and complaining ? other people have suffered racism and hate also SO STOP CRYING ABOUT IT... aand get on with the job of creating a race that can compete with all the others

    ? HISPANICS ARE on track to be wealthier than us we should be ? ashamed.

    I thought they already were
  • Vellum
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    Should cite sources in your OP.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-average-black-family-would-need-228-years-to-build-the-wealth-of-a-white-family-today/

    The article gets into no detail really, but worse off, it offers no solutions. Typical of journalist in general, especially modern ones.

    What black americans need to do is continue increasing our presence with being college educated and graduated, getting advanced degrees when necessary, and flooding into the all of the markets. From computer programming to political careers, to being a geneticist. We have to start getting into more traditionally non black careers that we have all but ignored for DECADES. Many of them being skilled labor jobs. We have to spend less, and save more. Then invest that into businesses that offer more than sneakers and cotton tshirts. The list goes on.


    Like for example. How have we been doing hip hop for decades, but action bronson is the first hip hop artist that seems to have captured 3 different ? markets at one time. He captured the chef food craze going on. He captured the weed craze, and hes a rapper. This dudes cooking on mainstream morning shows and night shows. Has two tv shows. One just them getting high and watching tv, and besides mayhem. Its a show thats 3 white dudes. lol

    How did we not have a black person not capturing all three of those groups a decade ago???????? Its because we were sitting in our own box and comfort zones too much, and not culturally branching out. We were just rapping and wasting money for most of us. It wasnt until 2007 with ciroc, did black folks finally step into the business of alcohol. They vary thing we were promoting for free, but never bothered to learn anything about. Now you have a new propaganda trying to further segregate us from embracing capitalism, because of all this perceived abundance of racism going on.

    Stick to a few simple basics can 180 this articles math in a decade tops. Its a new era.
  • mrtdb
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    Bet I make it faster though
  • fortyacres
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    i know average black families richer than white families today.
  • ThaNubianGod
    ThaNubianGod Members Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The problem is we keep embracing socialism under the guise that it will uplift us out of poverty. American-Jews embraced capitalism and used it to their advantage by taking over industries like film, TV, law, medicine.

    We dominate American culture and set the standard. That's reflected in film, music, sports, but we don't collaborate and own like we should. Our communities had massive white flight decades ago, and we've spent far too much time asking corporate entities to come in and "give" us low-wage jobs. All that low-cost property needs to be snatched up by us, and we need to spend our $1 trillion+ on investing in new businesses. The cost is relatively low, and the profit is potential enormous because no one is tapping into these areas or uplifting these populations. The same thing you see when a 3rd-world region ascends, would be what you would in our poor communities. I'm talking professional businesses, black owned and invested, and that train and produce black professionals within that community. We don't get hired at the same rate, so ? that and let's put our heads/money together and do it ourselves. We need more black law firms, local black banks, black web firms, black owned entertainment firms, black clinics, black investment firms, and on and on. We have the mans now to make this happen, especially int he age of social media, but as i write this, even I don't know who or what can organize such a movement. Sure as hell isn't the current black talking heads out there.

    Don't want to make this political, but people have to understand that socialism is collectivism, which means the majority rule and minorities get the crumbs. That what every single socialist nation on this Earth has looked like. There is no moving up the ladder, instead those at the top stay there and at the bottom never move up. Capitalism is more individualistic, so yes, there are some who will win bigger than others, but everyone including minority populations can improve themselves. Populations that working cohesively tend to do the best. pretty much all the nations with working economies use this system.
  • aneed123
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    The original Jew's were black....the powerful Jew's today are a different people. With that said they haven't endured it worse as black folk and that 500 year head start slavery provided whites. Add in Jim crow and then no civil rights ....
  • The Lonious Monk
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    You cannot be serious b. Jew have faced a lot of discrimination going back centuries. It is only in the 19th century that they started to overcome.

    The discrimination they faced in America wasn't as bad as in Europe, but they did faced some discrimination.

    Still, they benefited in America by being white.

    ? , I didn't say they didn't face any discrimination. I said they didn't face the same institutional discrimination as us. Show me the laws that stopped jews from voting or owning homes in certain areas or attending certain educational institutions.
    zzombie wrote: »

    That is historically incorrect the jews had whole sections of nations in which they could not freely travel and there were also restrictions on the kind of work they could do.

    pre-? germany the jews were allowed to prosper but if you go back a little further history records them being blocked from freely participating in german life

    Again, that's all well and good, but it has nothing to do with being discussed here. If you're going to compare contemporary jews and their success to contemporary blacks and our lack of success, you have to compare our contemporary circumstances. You can't dig up some ? that happened to them 500 years ago and give it the same same weight as something that happened to us 50 years ago.

  • Splackavelli
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The average black family needs to get off their ass and get it together . Today is my b-day I ain't thinking about the struggle right now. All I want for my b-day is some big booth ? !!!!

    How big is that?

    As long the booth is wide enough for them to shake that ass im'ma be alright.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You cannot be serious b. Jew have faced a lot of discrimination going back centuries. It is only in the 19th century that they started to overcome.

    The discrimination they faced in America wasn't as bad as in Europe, but they did faced some discrimination.

    Still, they benefited in America by being white.

    ? , I didn't say they didn't face any discrimination. I said they didn't face the same institutional discrimination as us. Show me the laws that stopped jews from voting or owning homes in certain areas or attending certain educational institutions.
    zzombie wrote: »

    That is historically incorrect the jews had whole sections of nations in which they could not freely travel and there were also restrictions on the kind of work they could do.

    pre-? germany the jews were allowed to prosper but if you go back a little further history records them being blocked from freely participating in german life

    Again, that's all well and good, but it has nothing to do with being discussed here. If you're going to compare contemporary jews and their success to contemporary blacks and our lack of success, you have to compare our contemporary circumstances. You can't dig up some ? that happened to them 500 years ago and give it the same same weight as something that happened to us 50 years ago.

    All contemporary circumstance stand on historical circumstance and i don't have to go back centuries if you go back only to the 1920's the poverty and discrimination jews face outside of their ethnic enclaves was very real. The segregation laws did not just apply to black people
  • zzombie
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    blacks went into entertainment and sports because historically those are the few areas in which blacks were allowed to be openly rich.

    jews went into jewelry and banking for a similar reasons.

    the difference is the jews bossed the ? up and now basically control that industry.
  • I Self Lord & Master
    I Self Lord & Master Members Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    this jew talk is taking a tone that its coming from the false history of the genesis of jews in America was at ellis island

    not only were they here prior to that they flourished. not only did they have plantations, (? some southern towns were monopolized by jewish owners ), they also had companies that insured slave ships.

    even a low level jew could buy ? trinkets / food and go from plantation to plantation sellin it to slaves at dumb markups to get his weight up.

    they werent late to tge game, ? they had hands in creating lots of the "games" from hundreds of years back. WE are the only ones that were late to the game. we disrespect our history with these false equivilances
  • A Talented One
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    zzombie wrote: »
    blacks went into entertainment and sports because historically those are the few areas in which blacks were allowed to be openly rich.

    jews went into jewelry and banking for a similar reasons.

    the difference is the jews bossed the ? up and now basically control that industry.

    In America, blacks weren't even allowed to go into sports at first (in the post-civil war era). I was just reading something that talked about the stereotypes people had about blacks round 1930. Being athletic was not among them, whereas that would be one of the main stereotypes people have today.

    Anyway, we really have to do more to convince black boys especially that they can be success in fields other than entertainment or sports.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    this jew talk is taking a tone that its coming from the false history of the genesis of jews in America was at ellis island

    not only were they here prior to that they flourished. not only did they have plantations, (? some southern towns were monopolized by jewish owners ), they also had companies that insured slave ships.

    even a low level jew could by ? trinkets / food and go from plantation to plantation sellin it to slaves at dumb markups to get his weight up.

    they werent late to tge game, ? they had hands in creating lots of the "games" from hundreds of years back. WE are the only ones that were late to the game. we disrespect our history with these false equivilances

    this isn't limited to america or even the jews.... THE JEWS did not flourish in america SOME JEWISH FAMILIES flourished in america and they did so because they provided services that people wanted so despite their anti-semitism americans still had to deal with them.

    and that was the first cohort of jews after them others came much later on and they did not get ?
  • I Self Lord & Master
    I Self Lord & Master Members Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the same can be said about America in general

    whites didn't flourish, SOME WHITE FAMILIES flourished... and we see what that had done for whites in general. apply that to the jewish subset as well

    the history aint comparable
  • Shuffington
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    Vellum wrote: »
    Should cite sources in your OP.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-average-black-family-would-need-228-years-to-build-the-wealth-of-a-white-family-today/

    The article gets into no detail really, but worse off, it offers no solutions.

    Full document: http://www.ips-dc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/The-Ever-Growing-Gap-CFED_IPS-Final-1.pdf

    Addressing this growing crisis:

    •Conduct an evidence-based, government-wide audit of federal policies to understand the role current policies play in perpetuating the racial wealth divide (P.18)

    •Fix unfair, upside-down tax incentives to ensure households of color also receive support to build wealth (P.19)

    •Address the distorting influence of concentrated wealth at the top through the expansion of existing progressive taxes and the exploration of a dedicated wealth tax (P.21)

    They go into more detail on how to start to solve some of these issues.
  • Shuffington
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    Lot of cool colorful charts , graphs and sh*t.
    Just here to help

    -Shuffington :-)
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the same can be said about America in general

    whites didn't flourish, SOME WHITE FAMILIES flourished... and we see what that had done for whites in general. apply that to the jewish subset as well

    the history aint comparable

    LOL WHITES AS A WHOLE COMPARATIVELY FLOURISHED . YOU ARE JUST looking for excuses, it is easier to blame the system keeping you down than it is to addressed the failings of your own community
  • I Self Lord & Master
    I Self Lord & Master Members Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    you jus tryna force an argument, like a ?

    ? can't even chop it up with yall hoe ass ?

    it aint that deep g
  • zzombie
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    you jus tryna force an argument, like a ?

    ? can't even chop it up with yall hoe ass ?

    it aint that deep g

    BLAMING everything on racism and slavery is not "chopping it up" it's complaining and crying, Every group suffers LEARNS from it and moves on not to make the same mistakes again except black people world-wide we are the only people you cannot get our act together
  • I Self Lord & Master
    I Self Lord & Master Members Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i aint say none of that, i said what i said... I shouldn't have to make that kind of a statement to a man
  • A Talented One
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    Zombie blames black people, instead of racism, for where we are.

    ? is disgusting.
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Can we stop talking about jews
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Zombie blames black people, instead of racism, for where we are.

    ? is disgusting.

    I blame black people for our stupid reactions to racism.... IN a game you don't blame your opponents for scoring against you that's what he's supposed to do, but if you play like a fool and keep turning over the ball then the only person you have to blame is yourself.

    black people like you are primary the culprits behind why we are losers, your stance on almost every issue is no different from those white leftist that have weakened our race almost to the point of obsolescence.

    from your rampant love of white women to your barely veiled support of socialism and abortion... your entire perspective is disgustingly weak
  • Olorun22
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    AggyAF wrote: »
    Can we stop talking about jews

    Apparently not look at what they had to overcome in America slavery Jim crow oh wait that wasn't them at all
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    En-Fuego22 wrote: »
    AggyAF wrote: »
    Can we stop talking about jews

    Apparently not look at what they had to overcome in America slavery Jim crow oh wait that wasn't them at all

    when are you going to stop blaming racism for everything and take responsibility???