Is The Rap Culture Destroying Black People?

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  • JJ_Evans
    JJ_Evans Members Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think if we're honest with ourselves, this question deserves both a "yes" and a "no" answer.

    Rap definitely has contributed to young black girls aspiring to be video vixens and strippers. It has also contributed to young ? killing everything that move, with no ? given. The disrespect given to black elders can also be blamed on rap. I don't see how either of these are debatable.



    But.................



    What about other factors that are contributing to the destruction of black people?......criminal injustice, terribly structured educational system, government programs (section 8 housing) designed to split up black families, violent video games (GTA) geared towards attracting black kids, government-planned ? epidemic of the 80s/90s that is still being felt in the black community because those ? babies are now adults, etc..................



    I feel that a strong-minded individual, rather young or old, can listen to anything and differentiate between "reality" and "fantasy". Unfortunately, our communities were/are filled with weak-minded individuals that allow music to creep into their consciousness and lead them to turn the "fantasy" of music into their new "reality". This is why I believe this question has both a "yes" and "no" answer.
  • MrMinimalist
    MrMinimalist Members Posts: 787 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes it is, the ? sounding rappers that came out within the last 4 years.
  • smp4life
    smp4life Members Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There's all kinds of rap out there so I'd say no. But it is interesting to look at what was once popular in rap and what is popular now. You had crews like Public Enemy kicking that positive message and succeeding. Even the ? acts like Ice T and NWA were kicking knowledge. If you listen to the lyrics of a track like Dopeman, it's actually a really powerful anti-drug and anti-drug dealing song. I guess that was when rap was seen as the black CNN and rappers were calling themselves street reporters. Now a days, with the internet, maybe that role is just not needed anymore. Popular rap now is just entertainment but I lot of it turns me off content-wise. I don't want to hear a rapper tell me I ain't ? because I don't spend $50K on jewelry and that he can take my girl, etc...
  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    jono wrote: »
    I don't.listen to rap as much and it would be a lie to say rap has no influence on Black culture but I wouldn't go so far as to say its destroying black people.

    Pretty much
  • iron man1
    iron man1 Members Posts: 29,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White people been ? our culture well before hip hop was created
  • A Talented One
    A Talented One Members Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭
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    Every time this topic comes up, without fail people make the same stupid comments. You carefully point out why they can't be right, but to no avail.
    Copper wrote: »
    Black people in america have the same problems we had before rap music for the most part...

    I know you're not the brightest, but this is wrong. Even if one thing preceded a certain problem, that doesn't mean that it can't contribute to the same problem. There were broken families before there were drugs, but it would be incorrect to say that from this it follows that drugs could not possibly contribute to broken families.
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
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    yes its destroying 'african american' culture not black culture but i aint gonna stop listening to it tho.
  • mrrealone
    mrrealone Members Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    When I was younger, you couldn't tell me rap was the reason for some of this destruction. If you should take it from anyone, take it from a funeral home director. Don't know if its as he says, but I think you get the message....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A0qCQ0w3Oc
  • Mister B.
    Mister B. Members, Writer Posts: 16,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Turn the ? radio and BET/vh1 off. That should help.
  • Turfaholic
    Turfaholic Members Posts: 20,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It personally influenced me in more ways than one. Most notably womanizing, foul language, and drug use. And I was almost destroyed because of the choices I made. I'm not going to blame rap music for forcing me to do what I did, but I know that rap music definitely influenced me to make the choices I did.


    When all you constantly hear is:


    1. Have sex with as many women as you can
    2. Do drugs, it's cool.
    3. Hate everybody that is not with you
    4. Shoot, ? , murder, bang, bang anybody that is the enemy
    5. Money this, money that
    6. With every curse word imaginable laced between every other word
    (side note for #6-Girls are cool with being called "hoes, ? , thots" and every other derogatory term. Rap music played a big part in the mainstream use of these words being directed toward women. Now they call each other by those names with no problem it seems like. It's kind of crazy when you think about it.)

    how can you not be influenced by the messages you are pumping into your soul when all you are letting in is what it's listed above? It happened to me! I haven't always been saved. And I know how I was before I was saved. All I did was listen to Mac dre, suga free, no limit, lil wayne, pac, big, etc. back in the day. And there was nothing positive in that mix of music. And my life showed it.



    Now that I know the truth after coming to the light of Jesus Christ I see the bigger picture at work. And there is a spiritual enemy that is behind all things that are ungodly. A spiritual enemy who is an expert in music and entertainment, being that he once led all the host of heaven in worship music to ? . So it's no wonder that he clothes himself as an angel of light in order to deceive humanity. His PhD is in deception. And there is no one better than him at doing it.


    Therefore when you have no light coming in all that remains is darkness. And that darkness will influence you until you let the light come in. And the bottom line truth is that there is a lot of darkness in rap music. Just today I was reading about young pappy who was killed in chicago and the article said that he was killed because of the music he made which was taunting his enemies. So I wanted to hear what he said and this is what I found:

    https://youtu.be/0uSn98gkT1Y



    I can't imagine how I would be if I was growing up listening to that. I almost became a statistic just listening to Mac Dre. But as my Pastor told me when I first got saved: "Garbage in, Garbage out". Meaning if you let garbage in your ears and eyes, you will let garbage come back out of your mouth and actions. And it's as simple as that.


    My sermon. Amen.

    Speak bad on Mac Dre again Eddie Long Jr......
  • numbaz...80's baby
    numbaz...80's baby Members Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
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    Art imitates life then life exaggerates Art.
  • felliwonda
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    Koltrain wrote: »
    Is it destriying the culture? No...seems like society as a whole is at a decline when it comes to commercialism and morals/principles vs. Money/fame. Just look at reality TV.

    Rap just turns out to be one of the most highly commercialized industries that exist today. Commercial rap may be harming the culture, but not destroying it.

    Good point and well hip-hop is just influencing part in what is today destroying the future generations including me I would say cause you also got social media, "tell a vision entertainment" like Eddie Griffing said, you got music in general, fashion, the educational system is not how it once was and politics of course l, so I would say hip hop influences towards what helps destroy generations and sometimes because there is good hip hop out there is also what the media constantly feeds the masses I would say are more damaging
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    simple answer..
    yes..

    Basically, people are really in denial about this. If rap music isn't the reason, then it DEFINITELY is making the problem worse.

    I'm in the middle on this. I agree that it's making it worse, but the real problem is muthafuckas are so damn weak-minded. Rap ain't entirely to blame (partially, yes, there could be much better content aimed at our more impressionable brothas and sistas). We give these females so much flack for their seeming inability to take accountabilty for anything, well it's the same thing here. Call a ? a ? . The main problem, I believe, is that so many parents neglect to instill certain guideposts in their children. Are you talking to them or is television and internet raising them? And, as stated above this is nothing new, so I'm not blaming only young parents. ? was raising stick up kids well before the advent of gangsta, mafioso and trap rap. (This here is where I agree that it's making ? worse). All I hear about is negativity, violence, drugs, materialism, sex. I'm just glad that I'm strong enough to see through the ? . I feel bad for any induvidual whose mind is so undeveloped that they can't see this ? for what it is: art. I remember reading about that secret meeting with record execs to push nothing but damnable rhetoric into our community, that was a direct war on the Black psyche, because they know that a large section of our people are sheep. Seldom is anything of value placed in the media for us. It ain't just rap, most of our movies are negative, reality TV - lord, I honestly believe that in particular is the worst thing they aim at us today (particularly, with our women)...

    Man, ? , I'm rambling. My mind is all over the place, but this is something I constantly think about.
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Teen pregnancy is down, graduation rates are up (especially for black women), crime is down.....

    Exactly what aspect of black culture is being destroyed by hip hop ? It's very easy to make these allegations but rarely do folks back it up
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Rap just lacks balance on a commercial level. The new age socially conscious rapper doesnt receive the same space on musical platforms as the turnup rappers.

    No, "turn up" rap has always ruled. People want to party and have fun, not read a essay about America's White Supremacist Capitalist Power Structure. Hip-Hop was literally invented by Kool Herc at parties. It has always been that way.

    People forget that when "Conscious Rap" was at its commercial peak in the late 80s/early 90s, it was because Public Enemy were able to a combine pro-black conscious message with insanely hype party beats and Flava Flav's humor. Native Tongues had the same approach, they were making music girls wanted to dance to.

    Nowdays? "CONSCIOUS RAP" almost exclusively seems to come in the form of super serious, dark, depressing, Lyrical Miracle ? . Well guess what. Radio isn't gonna wanna play that ? between dance & love songs, DJs aren't gonna wanna spin that ? at parties & clubs, Strippers aren't gonna wanna twerk to that ? , and most teenagers + the vast majority of FEMALES will say its boring.

    Most people in general want music to be an fun escape, not a serious political exercise. Life is hard and depressing enough on its own. Nobody wants to hear Ras Kass - Nature of the Threat in a bar on a friday night. Immortal Technique and Paris aren't doing songs with Future.

    Juicy J - Where The Justice At is probably the closest thing we've had to a militant pro-black club banger this year
  • MrSoutCity
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  • NoCompetition
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    These days I'd say not really. Back in the 90s and earlier 2000s people I noticed seemed more influenced and took it more seriously "keepin it real" and whatnot. Today crime is way down, dropout rates are way down, etc. So hard to say one of the most popular forms of music is "destroying" when large numbers of the people who listen to it are showing improvement. I'd say the opposite in today's world but I guess its how you look at things and your perspective. For some yeah but for others no. For those of us who are grown its not the same as it was back in the 90s and earlier 2000s. Actually seeing these rappers find a way legally is inspiring to a lot of people at the same time. Whether they wanna rap or do something else.
  • D. Morgan
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    It definitely plays a part..

    Exactly.

    By itself no its not but yes it is when added in with all the other problems ? our culture up.
  • Kwan Dai
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    So, any music that promotes, drugs, alcohol, simping, ? , and partying non-stop isn't destructive?

    Gotcha..
  • NothingButTheTruth
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    What's the subject matter of rap? Murder death ? drugs fuking ? materialism no fighting shooting etc ... to front like it isn't a factor is naive and wrong. Combine it with young infant parents TV and the internet raising kids and u have a cesspool of ignorance

    You sound like a white person. That's the subject matter of the commercial slave ? , the fly by night, hip-pop ? , not the MCs we all have in our top 10 lists.
  • D. Morgan
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    What's the subject matter of rap? Murder death ? drugs fuking ? materialism no fighting shooting etc ... to front like it isn't a factor is naive and wrong. Combine it with young infant parents TV and the internet raising kids and u have a cesspool of ignorance

    You sound like a white person. That's the subject matter of the commercial slave ? , the fly by night, hip-pop ? , not the MCs we all have in our top 10 lists.

    What do you actually think most young kids are listening to?

    There is a reason ? like young thug and lil yatchy are popular or growing in popularity and it ain't because of mostly grown folks.

    It doesn't matter how long that popularity lasts because the damage is already done and being followed up by someone just as bad as they were or possibly even worse.