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Historically Black Colleges Are Becoming More White
http://time.com/2907332/historically-black-colleges-increasingly-serve-white-students/
Graduates stand for the anthem "Lift Every Voice and Sing" during 2014 commencement ceremonies at Howard University in Washington May 10, 2014.
An average of one in four students at traditionally black schools in the U.S. is a different race than the one the college was intended to serve
When junior Brandon Kirby brought home an award from a national biomedical conference, it was a nice boost for his small college in a dying coal town in the heart of Appalachia.
It also seemed incongruous, given that the conference was for minorities, the college is historically black — and Kirby is white.
So are 82 percent of the students at West Virginia’s Bluefield State College, which nonetheless qualifies for a share of the more than a quarter of a billion dollars a year in special funding the federal government set aside for historically black colleges and universities in 2011, the last year for which figures are available. These schools, known as HBCUs, can also apply for federal loans through the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program. Last year, they got $303 million from that program, on top of $1.1 billion in previously approved loans. The HBCU designation was created by Congress in 1965 to refer to any accredited school “established prior to 1964, whose principal mission was, and is, the education of black Americans.”
HBCU’s have always enrolled students of all races, but they are increasingly becoming less black. At some, like Bluefield, blacks now comprise less than half of the student body. At Lincoln University in Missouri, African-Americans account for 40 percent of enrollment while at Alabama’s Gadsden State Community College, 71 percent of the students are white and just 21 percent are black. The enrollment at St. Philip’s College in Texas is half Hispanic and 13 percent black, according to 2011 enrollment data from the U.S. Department of Education. Nationwide, an average of one in four HBCU students is a different race than the one the school was intended to serve, according to research conducted at the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education.
Many HBCUs were started under segregation to provide African-Americans with higher education opportunities. After integration, they became seen as places for black students to overcome economic and educational inequities. Indeed, HBCUs have been instrumental in developing the black middle class, graduating substantial numbers of teachers, engineers and other professionals. But as schools that had been predominantly white opened their doors to other races, black students became scarcer at historically black colleges. To survive, the universities have had to market themselves to all students.
But George Cooper, the executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs, says such wild demographic swings are a testament to the modern-day flexibility of HBCUs. These schools still are, and always will be, legally considered historically black, he said.
“The definition is a federal definition,” Cooper says. “They’re living up to it.”
Congress has never stipulated whether an institution could continue to be considered historically black if it became mostly white. The legislation that gives the schools their largest pool of money says only that they have “contributed significantly to the effort to attain equal opportunity through postsecondary education for black, low-income, and educationally disadvantaged Americans.”
http://time.com/2907332/historically-black-colleges-increasingly-serve-white-students/
Graduates stand for the anthem "Lift Every Voice and Sing" during 2014 commencement ceremonies at Howard University in Washington May 10, 2014.
An average of one in four students at traditionally black schools in the U.S. is a different race than the one the college was intended to serve
When junior Brandon Kirby brought home an award from a national biomedical conference, it was a nice boost for his small college in a dying coal town in the heart of Appalachia.
It also seemed incongruous, given that the conference was for minorities, the college is historically black — and Kirby is white.
So are 82 percent of the students at West Virginia’s Bluefield State College, which nonetheless qualifies for a share of the more than a quarter of a billion dollars a year in special funding the federal government set aside for historically black colleges and universities in 2011, the last year for which figures are available. These schools, known as HBCUs, can also apply for federal loans through the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program. Last year, they got $303 million from that program, on top of $1.1 billion in previously approved loans. The HBCU designation was created by Congress in 1965 to refer to any accredited school “established prior to 1964, whose principal mission was, and is, the education of black Americans.”
HBCU’s have always enrolled students of all races, but they are increasingly becoming less black. At some, like Bluefield, blacks now comprise less than half of the student body. At Lincoln University in Missouri, African-Americans account for 40 percent of enrollment while at Alabama’s Gadsden State Community College, 71 percent of the students are white and just 21 percent are black. The enrollment at St. Philip’s College in Texas is half Hispanic and 13 percent black, according to 2011 enrollment data from the U.S. Department of Education. Nationwide, an average of one in four HBCU students is a different race than the one the school was intended to serve, according to research conducted at the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education.
Many HBCUs were started under segregation to provide African-Americans with higher education opportunities. After integration, they became seen as places for black students to overcome economic and educational inequities. Indeed, HBCUs have been instrumental in developing the black middle class, graduating substantial numbers of teachers, engineers and other professionals. But as schools that had been predominantly white opened their doors to other races, black students became scarcer at historically black colleges. To survive, the universities have had to market themselves to all students.
But George Cooper, the executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs, says such wild demographic swings are a testament to the modern-day flexibility of HBCUs. These schools still are, and always will be, legally considered historically black, he said.
“The definition is a federal definition,” Cooper says. “They’re living up to it.”
Congress has never stipulated whether an institution could continue to be considered historically black if it became mostly white. The legislation that gives the schools their largest pool of money says only that they have “contributed significantly to the effort to attain equal opportunity through postsecondary education for black, low-income, and educationally disadvantaged Americans.”
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Historically Black Colleges Are Becoming More White
Not everyone agrees. Economist Richard Vedder favors eliminating special funding for HBCU’s on the grounds that all schools should receive money based on present realities, not historic mission. “If you’re going to give subsidies for institutions, you shouldn’t give it on the basis of some sort of historical [legacy],” says Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity.
At Bluefield, officials and students contend they haven’t strayed from their original mission for the same reason Kirby and his classmates are allowed to participate in the biomedical conference.
“We’re all considered minorities because we’re in a poverty state,” Kirby says, referring to West Virginia.
The university primarily draws rural students from Appalachia, many of them low income and the first in their families to attend college. “The students that we serve would not necessarily have other options for higher education,” Bluefield State President Marsha Krotseng says.
The schools, and many experts, are quick to point out that public HBCUs are often underfunded by their states. Even with the extra money they receive from the federal government, they argue, the schools get less than 3 percent of federal higher-education funding — slightly less than the proportion of students they enroll.
They also say there remains a need for historically black schools: to serve disadvantaged students of any color. Many of them are actively courting low-income students of all races. Their goal, they say, is unchanged: to help those who have few other college options.
HBCUs “are there to provide opportunity and avenues for education for people who were disenfranchised,” says Michael Sorrell, president of Paul Quinn College, an HBCU in Dallas. “Slavery has been over for a long time, so you can’t have such a narrow view point on this.”
Anthony Bradley, a professor at The King’s College in New York City who has written about HBCUs, disagrees. He says that broadly targeting disadvantaged students isn’t enough to merit continued special funding from the federal government, since many other colleges and universities also do this.
“That doesn’t set them apart from community colleges,” Bradley says. “Most colleges in the country have special programs to recruit and matriculate and graduate disadvantaged students.”
On a practical level, the increasing diversity of HBCUs has resulted from a need to fill seats to survive. Before desegregation, more than three-quarters of black college graduates went to HBCUs. Today, less than one-sixth of college-going blacks do, according to research by the Ford Foundation. (The Ford Foundation is a financial supporter of The Hechinger Report.)
These institutions, in general, are also having trouble attracting students because of financial problems, low graduation rates, and other poor outcomes, and their enrollment is shifting along with broader changes in the demographics of incoming college students. The number of Hispanics and Asians in particular at HBCUs is climbing. Asian enrollment rose 60 percent from 2001 to 2011, and Asians now comprise about 1 percent of HBCU students, according to the University of Pennsylvania research. Hispanics make up about 3 percent.
“The reality is that if HBCUs — with the exception of maybe the top five or six — do not diversify, they’re all going to die,” says Bradley. “While they may continue in their mission in respect to providing opportunities to African-Americans on paper, in reality they’re simply going to have to become more like any university in the country.”
That’s what happened at Bluefield State. The transformation began in the 1960s, when falling racial barriers meant blacks could attend any university or college, and the school recruited returning Korean War veterans just to stay open.
In 1968, after a student set off a bomb on campus, the state closed the dorms. That turned Bluefield State into a commuter campus in a predominantly white area, which grew even whiter when the coal industry left town.
By the mid 1990s, black enrollment had dipped to about 6 percent, and there were no black faculty.
One alumnus, William White, who graduated from the school in 1968, said returning to the campus in the 1990s, when it had become overwhelmingly white, was “the worst feeling I’ve ever had in my life.” Even so, he thinks the definition of HBCU should be flexible. It is possible for an HBCU to be minority black, he says, and the schools should “educate anybody that comes through their doors.”
This story was produced by The Hechinger Report, a nonprofit, nonpartisan news outlet affiliated with Teachers College, Columbia University.
What the ? is "Becky," cheesin' at in the picture. ? is hella disrespectful. -
Most HBCU's were started by white millionaires and for a specific purpose
HBCU's have never been off limits to white people -
I blame the ? parents of these athletes who keep sending them to white schools our athletes are one of our biggest natural resources to generate cash but we keep sending them to massas plantation
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I remember they tried to align and merge my HBCU with UNC-Greensboro, or at least discussed it. Alumni and us students didn't allow that. I went to NC A&T, where we're still overwhelmingly black and take pride in our blackness. There are some whites that attended while I was there, but it wasn't and today it's not a significant number. At least IMO. With us being the largest HBCU, and with the clout & prestige that we carry, I was surprised more whites don't attend.
A lot of Africans and middle easterners at the school tho. -
This ain't new.
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Most HBCU's were started by white millionaires and for a specific purpose
HBCU's have never been off limits to white people
Whites think so though...I've even heard them called racist by cacks -
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-White rappers in hiphop
-White R & B singers
-White people using the N-word (in a hiphop-influenced context)
Everybody wanna be black, but nobody wanna be black.
Cultural appropriation gone full circle. -
Now the degrees gone b worth something
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Replace the name ASHLEY in your thread title with KATIE.
I've known quite a few black chicks named Ashley. -
yall young ? hate everything without any actual purpose -
You late ?
There are a couple predominately white HBCU's.ghostdog56 wrote: »I blame the ? parents of these athletes who keep sending them to white schools our athletes are one of our biggest natural resources to generate cash but we keep sending them to massas plantation
You don't know what the ? you're talking about. College athletics are plantations for students whether they're HBCU or PWI. They don't pay their athletes but the athletes have to go their in order to play professionally.
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It makes sense. Most of the non-football/basketball/track athletes were white at DSU when I went.
? , our starting QB is white now.....even though that muhfucker threw a 102-yd pick 6 to pretty much end our homecoming game today. ? ass muhfucker. -
soul rattler wrote: »You late ?
There are a couple predominately white HBCU's.ghostdog56 wrote: »I blame the ? parents of these athletes who keep sending them to white schools our athletes are one of our biggest natural resources to generate cash but we keep sending them to massas plantation
You don't know what the ? you're talking about. College athletics are plantations for students whether they're HBCU or PWI. They don't pay their athletes but the athletes have to go their in order to play professionally.
Do you even know how much money HBCU's make by playing just one PWI?
No ? , but I rather see that money go to a black college than a white one -
This ? is not new. Whites can get minority scholarships at HBCUs too. I've always thought it was good for HBCUs to have some diversity, but not to the point they lose their identity and stop supporting their intended function.
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It's a business first school second
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Wtf? How in the hell did that happen? LolIt makes sense. Most of the non-football/basketball/track athletes were white at DSU when I went.
? , our starting QB is white now.....even though that muhfucker threw a 102-yd pick 6 to pretty much end our homecoming game today. ? ass muhfucker. -
Who esle going to play on the soccer and golf teams. All about that revenue.
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ghostdog56 wrote: »I blame the ? parents of these athletes who keep sending them to white schools our athletes are one of our biggest natural resources to generate cash but we keep sending them to massas plantation
Every time I see this argument being made it seems like it's ignored the NCAA would still be the NCAA and the athletes would still be getting ? over regardless of where they go to school at. Wasn't it at Grambling where the players protested just a year ago because they caught staph infections, long ass traveling for games, and saying the school was going on about it like they gave no ? about them? -
ghostdog56 wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »You late ?
There are a couple predominately white HBCU's.ghostdog56 wrote: »I blame the ? parents of these athletes who keep sending them to white schools our athletes are one of our biggest natural resources to generate cash but we keep sending them to massas plantation
You don't know what the ? you're talking about. College athletics are plantations for students whether they're HBCU or PWI. They don't pay their athletes but the athletes have to go their in order to play professionally.
Do you even know how much money HBCU's make by playing just one PWI?
No ? , but I rather see that money go to a black college than a white one
I'm going to need you to clarify.
Because it sounds like you just said that you would rather a black student get ? over by a black school then a black student getting ? over a white school. As if one is better than the other. -
Unrelated but I've Had a lot of white people complain to me about Affirmative action policies that benefit minorities. Every time I tell them that when it comes to college these policies hugely benefit whites because Asians are by far the most competitive for post secondary schools in terms of grades and extracurriculars they never have ? to say.
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Unrelated but I've Had a lot of white people complain to me about Affirmative action policies that benefit minorities.
Also, when some ? CAC tell you some ? boy ? like that tell'em this.
Affirmative Action Is Great For White Women. So Why Do They Hate It?
The Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the program benefits the women who fought against it most of all.
01/21/2016 12:22 pm ET | Updated Jun 23, 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/affirmative-action-white-women_us_56a0ef6ae4b0d8cc1098d3a5
Chloe Angyal
Front Page Editor, The Huffington Post
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE/ASSOCIATED PRESS
On Thursday, the Supreme Court narrowly upheld affirmative action in higher education admissions, protecting a landmark victory of the Civil Rights movement against yet another assault.
The face of Fisher v. Texas, Abigail Fisher, is a young, educated and white woman who sought to undo affirmative action in the erroneous belief that the system limited her chances because of her race.
But if the court had dismantled affirmative action across the nation, Fisher, and many other white women like her, would have been sorely disappointed. The fact is that white women are disproportionately likely to benefit from affirmative action policies. You’d never know that from listening to Fisher — or her demographic.
Data from the 2014 Cooperative Congressional Election Study — an annual large-scale academic survey that aims to track political attitudes — show that 66 percent of young white people between 17 and 34 describe themselves as “somewhat opposed” or “strongly opposed” to affirmative action policies in employment and admissions. Among young white women, 67 percent are against affirmative action. Among young women of color — the study polls black, Hispanic and Asian American women — only 29 percent oppose it either strongly or somewhat.
Affirmative action, when it was introduced by President John F. Kennedy in 1961, originally required entities that receive federal funding to take tangible steps “to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin.” In 1967, Lyndon Johnson added sex to that list.
And yet, just as most people think of Title IX as being about athletics funding (there’s a lot more to it than that), the general perception of affirmative action is that it’s “just” about race.
But affirmative action has been quite beneficial to women, and disproportionately beneficial to white women. Women are now more likely to graduate with bachelor’s degrees and attend graduate school than men are and outnumber men on many college campuses. In 1970, just 7.6 percent of physicians in America were women; in 2002, that number had risen to 25.2 percent. But — and this is a big but — those benefits are more likely to accrue to white women than they are to women of color, and that imbalance has very real effects on employment and earnings later in life. In other words: affirmative action works, and it works way better for white women than it does for all the other women in America.
But white women have made a practice of publicly objecting to affirmative action policies. As researcher Jessie McDaniel notes, since the landmark 1978 Supreme Court case Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, in which the court ruled that race may be factored into university admissions, “the people suing universities for discrimination in the academic admissions process have been white women: Abigail Fisher; Barbara Grutter (Grutter v. Bollinger); Jennifer Gratz (Gratz v. Bollinger) and Cheryl Hopwood (Hopwood v. Texas).” Those landmark cases challenged university affirmative action programs in Michigan and Texas, respectively.
And those women are far from alone in believing that a system that’s designed to help them and has helped lots of women like them has actually robbed them of something that’s rightfully theirs — and should be dismantled as a consequence. In fact, they’re more likely than white men in their age group to object.
It’s likely most of them don’t understand how affirmative action helps them, said Jesse Rhodes, an assistant professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst who recently analyzed some of the CCES data for Al Jazeera.
“For most polling,” Rhodes said, “understanding of policies is pretty limited. Citizens have a hard time connecting their experience to policies unless they’re regularly receiving pretty clear signaling from government about the benefits of those policies.” Younger citizens tend to be the least knowledgeable, Rhodes noted, simply by virtue of having less experience and less time to collect information. Guided only by the popular perception of affirmative action that it only (or mostly) benefits people of color, it’s possible that young white women see no benefit from the diversity it brings to classrooms and workplaces and view it as an obstacle to their own chances of gaining access to those spaces.
But even if young white women are aware of how affirmative action could likely benefit them — and how likely it is that they, in fact, have already benefitted from it — it’s possible these millennials view efforts to remedy the effects of racism as unnecessary, just as they view efforts to remedy the effects of sexism.
Rhodes and his co-author at Al Jazeera, Sean McElwee, write that the data suggest young white Americans, “rather than seeing racism as a persistent problem still in need of remedy... are inclined to believe America is a colorblind society and that little remains to be done to remedy past racial injustices.”
Due to him being a Latino and since Latinos are a minority in America.
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ghostdog56 wrote: »I blame the ? parents of these athletes who keep sending them to white schools our athletes are one of our biggest natural resources to generate cash but we keep sending them to massas plantation
Every time I see this argument being made it seems like it's ignored the NCAA would still be the NCAA and the athletes would still be getting ? over regardless of where they go to school at. Wasn't it at Grambling where the players protested just a year ago because they caught staph infections, long ass traveling for games, and saying the school was going on about it like they gave no ? about them?
We all know the athletes get ? but at least use your talents to build up black colleges. Grambling wouldn't have had those problems if they had the money for better facilities which those athletes could bring
