Why does Haiti Have So Much Bad Luck?

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  • mc317
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    Because Wyclef's guitar plays ? boi music sponsored by haitian jack
  • blue_london
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    France is to blame
  • Turfaholic
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    LUClEN wrote: »
    Them ? ? off ? somehow

    I met a Jew who thought this. He thinks because they practice voodoo ? is punishing them. He said that's why Louisiana got wrecked, too.

    My parents old pastor said the same ? . I refused to go to that church again after that. My best friend family got caught up in Katrina.
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    SimplyKrys wrote: »
    *Reads thread title*

    My bf who is Haitian himself just said a few days ago, "that place is cursed."

    This ? . The only place that is cursed is Detroit. All Haiti needs is investment an educated workforce.

    Until next year's hurricane destroys it again. Face it, ? don't like that country
  • Turfaholic
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    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.

    Yea, my granny does Santeria
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    MazterChef wrote: »
    HAARP weapons
    and haiti has the deepest trench in the caribbean...

    there is no way the chinese and euros are investing in a place with that much frequent damage

    so nobody is investing in them....
    but they are sending man made hurricanes to them for what reason for fun?
    your conspiracy doesnt even make sense

    i think you misunderstood.

    the chinese and euros are very deep there.....they ARE investing.

    they are investing more there than they are in the DR

    just seems crazy but we know there are not
  • Jabu_Rule
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.

    Voodoo was inspiring and all, but what played a huge part was france not being able to put up a real defence. They were too busy fighting the napoleonic wars. They couldn't seen a force nor were they concerned looking at the bigger issues they were facing. At the end of the day, voodoo didn't keep the United States from going over there to ? them over.
  • Turfaholic
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.

    Yea, my granny does Santeria

    I was dealing with a 40 year old Puerto Rican this time last year. ? was bomb. She was too crazy for my taste though. She practiced it. ? intrigued the ? out of me. She was putting me on to some ? . Talking about burning black candles in water. We fell out and we never went through with it.
  • Broddie
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.

    No supposedly about it. Dark and light magic is real.
  • Jabu_Rule
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.

    No supposedly about it. Dark and light magic is real.

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  • felliwonda
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    A lot of Haiti's "bad luck," stems from systematic racism and white supremacy. Unlike other nations in Latin America and the Caribbean where the dominate society maintained control of those nations. You had the not only the first black republic in the history of the world, but a nation that was formed out the first successful slave revolt, so racist white supremacists (being the vile evil creatures that are,) punished the Haitians for it which resulted in Haiti never getting a firm economic base.

    Then you have the problem with the endemic political corruption. Say what you will about the racist white supremacists brutal and sexually depraved slavers that founded this nation, Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, Adams, Monroe, Jay, and Washington'em were on point when it came to ideas about government and how to run a government.

    Muthafuckas revered Washington so much that it took 143 years for somebody to break the tradition of serving only two terms in office. Also Washington set a powerful precedent when he refused to allow his generals to make him George I of America.

    As great as Toussaint and Dessalines were they ? the game up when when Toussaint made himself governor-general for life and Dessalines made himself emperor.

    Then there's the fact that six white families control Haiti like some Seven Kingdoms of Westeros, only 60% of the people can read and the language of instruction of is French, despite like 95% of Haitians speak Haitian Creole. As I've always said black people world wide, (especially African Americans,) have a ? given duty to help our Haitian brothers and sisters.


    Yes sir in a nutshell. Is in the books just gotta read and find out for yourselves cause they won't teach us this history. Although I would like to add that a lot of Latin American (Black Latinos and Natives) countries are indebted with Haitii as much as The Black American community.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    DR ? with that voodoo/Santeria heavy also
  • MarcusGarvey
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    Put me on game
    Always thought it was due to the embargo after they gained independence, plus debt, weak leadership, the cronyism of the mutts and white families.
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    DR ? with that voodoo/Santeria heavy also

    I'm about to ask my "friends" about this now....

    anything I should know before I ask?
  • felliwonda
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    DR ? with that voodoo/Santeria heavy also

    I'm about to ask my "friends" about this now....

    anything I should know before I ask?

    @2stepz_ahead. I mean it only makes sense that vodou is also practiced in DR. It is also practiced in most of the West Indies if not all and it has spread to many countries in Latin America is actually more common than people think. Only I've been told by people who have seen/experienced it first hand that vodou in Haitii is as advanced as technology in the states so imagine DR and neighboring islands
  • felliwonda
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    Put me on game
    Always thought it was due to the embargo after they gained independence, plus debt, weak leadership, the cronyism of the mutts and white families.

    Definetly this has also a major influence if not most of the influence as to why Haitii is a Nation that has suffered so over these centuries. So yeah this is also right. at least from some of the resources I read
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    felliwonda wrote: »
    DR ? with that voodoo/Santeria heavy also

    I'm about to ask my "friends" about this now....

    anything I should know before I ask?

    @2stepz_ahead. I mean it only makes sense that vodou is also practiced in DR. It is also practiced in most of the West Indies if not all and it has spread to many countries in Latin America is actually more common than people think. Only I've been told by people who have seen/experienced it first hand that vodou in Haitii is as advanced as technology in the states so imagine DR and neighboring islands

    trust me...i beleive in voodoo.

    my dad used to do some ? with candles.....i swear i saw smoke from the wick go along the glass and the wax to the bottom of the candle.
    scared the fukk outta me as a kid.

    im not sure that was voodoo...but i beleive in alot of ? that my dad told me that i never had to see. he never lied to me.
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    mi amor dice

    solamente dios
    eses personas ignorantes y diabolicas



    lol
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    ok ? is going waaaay left now.
    i guess this question can be offensive
  • RickyRich
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    zzombie wrote: »
    that voodoo obeah ? is no ? joke speaking as someone who knows people that practice that ? and who has visited and lived in nations were that ? is somewhat prevalent. KEEP AWAY FROM THAT ? .

    I kno a girl that did it to this ? man . Had that ? ? up
  • Broddie
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    Jabu_Rule wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    And based on my research, before Allah & Jesus, outside of Egypt, Africa was predominantly voodoo. Amerikkka most definitely demonized it for a reason. It supposedly played a huuuuge part in Haiti gaining it's independence. There's supposedly two sides to it. A dark side and a light side. Puerto Rico is still deeply rooted into it as well.

    No supposedly about it. Dark and light magic is real.

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    ^ Non-carribbean person post.
  • Figo
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    ok ? is going waaaay left now.
    i guess this question can be offensive

    that ? is done throughout the Caribbean. Back home in trini, its called Orisha. Santeria in latin countries. Nothing new. They be posting mad flags at their homes.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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  • Olorun22
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    racism and has the most to do with the hate Haiti gets and it's current conditions but voodoo can get some of the blame

    How does Voodoo gets any blame?

    all that voodoo ? scares a lot of people away and adds to the bad image

    You must be ignorant on voodoo because it's more to voodoo then dolls and pins. Being an west african traditional religion it gets a bad rap