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PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Otto Graham played in an era where QBs were throwing more INTs than TD and still ended up with 39 more TDs than INTs.
He only led the NFL/AAFC in INTs once, but led in TDs 3 times, Yards 5 times and Comp % 4 times in 10 seasons.
Fall back.
So basically in the league full off sorry ass Qb somebody has to be good and get into the HOF Right
Lol he still top 20 in QBR and has the record most yards per completion ? that has stood for 60 plus years and the point of the game is to win and he was a winner that's the main reason why he is in the hall of fame -
Romo isn't great so the comparison is on point
Stats say otherwise
It ain't all about stats homie... turnovers at crucial times by romo negate a lot of stats
What stats are you talking about be specific?
It's tons of article that negate the perception of being a choke artist.
Them articles don't negate my eyes. I seen him ? up vs Seattle dropping the fg I seen him lose games throwing picks. I've seen him sprawled out in the sand angel position after sacks.
? love to bring that up that seattle game when as a QB he lead them down the field but as a placeholder he fumble the ball. But that fumble doesn't actually prove your point but like i said he lead them down the field.
The lack of success that the cowboys has had will always be a team effort. Romo had great performances way more than bad ones.
If romo isn't great why the ? we lost without him? Look at the numbers. This is first time we have won without romo like this.
You take tom brady off the pats you get a 14 and 6.
Take romo off were 6 and 13 ( this includes this year 5-1 record) and its worst going back further
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ericb4prez wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Otto Graham played in an era where QBs were throwing more INTs than TD and still ended up with 39 more TDs than INTs.
He only led the NFL/AAFC in INTs once, but led in TDs 3 times, Yards 5 times and Comp % 4 times in 10 seasons.
Fall back.
So basically in the league full off sorry ass Qb somebody has to be good and get into the HOF Right
Lol he still top 20 in QBR and has the record most yards per completion ? that has stood for 60 plus years and the point of the game is to win and he was a winner that's the main reason why he is in the hall of fame
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I dont think a lot of people really understand up until 2 years ago how much Romo had to do in order for the Cowboys to win. The offensive line was trash and we were only good on defense for a few years like 09, 08 and I think 07 we pretty solid.
Yeah Romo has had some crucial turnovers in the past but imo a lot of that was due to him trying to make something happen because he knew we may not get another opportunity
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? got 7 chips but he was not part of the reason we were winning?Shizlansky wrote: »ericb4prez wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Otto Graham played in an era where QBs were throwing more INTs than TD and still ended up with 39 more TDs than INTs.
He only led the NFL/AAFC in INTs once, but led in TDs 3 times, Yards 5 times and Comp % 4 times in 10 seasons.
Fall back.
So basically in the league full off sorry ass Qb somebody has to be good and get into the HOF Right
Lol he still top 20 in QBR and has the record most yards per completion ? that has stood for 60 plus years and the point of the game is to win and he was a winner that's the main reason why he is in the hall of fame
So you would start your team with Otto over Romo?
Yup lol ? got 7 titles but I'm supposed to pick a ? that can't even handle the snap for his kicker to seal the deal -
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ericb4prez wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Otto Graham played in an era where QBs were throwing more INTs than TD and still ended up with 39 more TDs than INTs.
He only led the NFL/AAFC in INTs once, but led in TDs 3 times, Yards 5 times and Comp % 4 times in 10 seasons.
Fall back.
So basically in the league full off sorry ass Qb somebody has to be good and get into the HOF Right
Lol he still top 20 in QBR and has the record most yards per completion ? that has stood for 60 plus years and the point of the game is to win and he was a winner that's the main reason why he is in the hall of fame
He's 21st. I'm actually shocked because his td/int isn't good nor is his completion percentage -
Basically admitted to missing the system CB
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How you gonna compare a QB from today to a QB from the 40s/50s?
It was an entirely different era and the game of footall was nowhere near as advanced as it is now. For his era, Otto Graham was a legend just like the Browns were legendary. But you put them against a modern NFL team, they're getting smoked and half the roster is getting put on IR. -
How bout the Ravens losing back to back to that gawd awful NFC East we kept hearing about all off season.
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Quincy Carter>>>>>>>> Dak Prescott
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PanchoYoSancho wrote: »How you gonna compare a QB from today to a QB from the 40s/50s?
It was an entirely different era and the game of footall was nowhere near as advanced as it is now. For his era, Otto Graham was a legend just like the Browns were legendary. But you put them against a modern NFL team, they're getting smoked and half the roster is getting put on IR.
I understand it's a different era and I acknowledge tha in one of my post. I was judging otto off of his completion percentage and TD/INT ratio.
But you have browns fans acting like having romo on their team is bad. Dude had to go back to the 50's to make his point. I actually forgot about otto because it was a long time ago but I don't think he's good that's just my opinion but otto was what he was for his era -
It was a different era man. Teams just threw it deep and defenders could do what they wanted to receivers. The passing game was nowhere near as complex as it is now.How bout the Ravens losing back to back to that gawd awful NFC East we kept hearing about all off season.
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vageneral08 wrote: »This ? defense and the playcalling smh
You still getting those 8 wins? -
ghostdog56 wrote: »Quincy Carter>>>>>>>> Dak Prescott
You must be his snorting buddy -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »ghostdog56 wrote: »Quincy Carter>>>>>>>> Dak Prescott
You must be his snorting buddy
Pay him no mind he just wants attention -
PanchoYoSancho wrote: »How you gonna compare a QB from today to a QB from the 40s/50s?
It was an entirely different era and the game of footall was nowhere near as advanced as it is now. For his era, Otto Graham was a legend just like the Browns were legendary. But you put them against a modern NFL team, they're getting smoked and half the roster is getting put on IR.
I understand it's a different era and I acknowledge tha in one of my post. I was judging otto off of his completion percentage and TD/INT ratio.
But you have browns fans acting like having romo on their team is bad. Dude had to go back to the 50's to make his point. I actually forgot about otto because it was a long time ago but I don't think he's good that's just my opinion but otto was what he was for his era
I never said having Romo on our squad would be bad I was responding to you saying we never had a great QB and Romo would be the best we ever had which is false -
Pretty sure u misinterpreted that post unless you're a Ravens fan of course.
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I wonder if our O-line healthy the rest of the season can produce similar results for the rest of the season.
First time all 5 starters on the line played together this whole season and the results were fantastic. -
Romo isn't great so the comparison is on point
Stats say otherwise
It ain't all about stats homie... turnovers at crucial times by romo negate a lot of stats
What stats are you talking about be specific?
It's tons of article that negate the perception of being a choke artist.
Them articles don't negate my eyes. I seen him ? up vs Seattle dropping the fg I seen him lose games throwing picks. I've seen him sprawled out in the sand angel position after sacks.
? love to bring that up that seattle game when as a QB he lead them down the field but as a placeholder he fumble the ball. But that fumble doesn't actually prove your point but like i said he lead them down the field.
The lack of success that the cowboys has had will always be a team effort. Romo had great performances way more than bad ones.
If romo isn't great why the ? we lost without him? Look at the numbers. This is first time we have won without romo like this.
You take tom brady off the pats you get a 14 and 6.
Take romo off were 6 and 13 ( this includes this year 5-1 record) and its worst going back further
That fumble showed he nuts up under pressure the end -
ericb4prez wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »How you gonna compare a QB from today to a QB from the 40s/50s?
It was an entirely different era and the game of footall was nowhere near as advanced as it is now. For his era, Otto Graham was a legend just like the Browns were legendary. But you put them against a modern NFL team, they're getting smoked and half the roster is getting put on IR.
I understand it's a different era and I acknowledge tha in one of my post. I was judging otto off of his completion percentage and TD/INT ratio.
But you have browns fans acting like having romo on their team is bad. Dude had to go back to the 50's to make his point. I actually forgot about otto because it was a long time ago but I don't think he's good that's just my opinion but otto was what he was for his era
I never said having Romo on our squad would be bad I was responding to you saying we never had a great QB and Romo would be the best we ever had which is false
Look ? I don't give a ? about some old ass qb. I don't give a ? about your browns I don't give a ? about Cleveland I don't give a ? about the state of Ohio.
That part -
A lot of Romo talk in here. Let me save yall some time.
His fragile ass will be hurt again by the playoffs and Dak will be #1 on the depth chart. -
How bout the Ravens losing back to back to that gawd awful NFC East we kept hearing about all off season.
@bow to royalty