Petition to Electoral College: Make Hillary President on 12/19 has 4.5 Million signatures
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https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=631600064&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylinkOn December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!
We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton.
Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.
Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.
PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!
I signed just in case this works
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Even Ultracoon Larry Elder signed and shared
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fucc no
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Neither one of them is fit to serve. America has spent centuries affirming the merits of this republican electoral process; I doubt they'll do anything against it now.
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fucc no
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Pass. Why couldn't they get this organized to get people to vote for her? It's too late now.
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I doubt they'll do it but I agree with the point of the petition.
The electorate was probably compromised to begin with.
I also don't agree with people saying "move on" without scrutinizing this ? . -
Its gon be a lot of white feelings and coward singing if the Hillary for pres starts ringing..
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I'm glad people are finally realizing unrestricted democracy is bound to fail. Presidential and damn near any higher office should REQUIRE a person to have served the public, wither it be through military serve, working with the public or for them through government agency's, or serving the public in lower offices (mayors, public defenders, etc etc.) Democracy without duty is a danger to this country
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I ain't signing this.
I didn't vote for either of them (I voted for Dr. Jilly Jill Stein), so at this point, ? em both. 45 will get everything coming to him by the American people, as they are ALL on his ass now. Hillz would get the same. This would just be a never-ending legal ? , which would make the office of POTUS weak as hell.
The only reason why I'd even consider this is because his win alone has empowered these Neo-? ? to do Neo ? ? ...however, if people start checking that ? at the gate - in schools, in the streets, whatever - they'll have no choice but to calm that ? down or GET calmed down. Word to the hick that got knocked the ? out at the Taco Bell by the black kid working there when he started on that "Trump won, Sieg Heil 2016" monkeyshit.
? this cac 45, but the best way to deal with this ? is just to stay on his and especially his cabinet's ? to make sure they don't pass no fuckshit, and if they do, go after them with the FULL POWER of the rights of the people. -
I think its too late. He won by the rules in place at the time. Too many sat out in close key states and want a do over. But some did their part, it is what it is. Not trying to rain on parades If it succeeds somehow.
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no.
while I dislike trump, he won fair and square. -
How is the electoral college differing from the popular vote fair / democratic ?
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? Hillary
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This is a horrible idea
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I signed but it ain't gonna do ?
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This is a horrible idea
Just because it won't work doesn't mean it's a horrible idea -
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They need to get rid of the electoral college all together and just go by popular vote.
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The best I could think is work to get it changed and more accurate going forward. I think the past election is over.
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hilary already conceded so would it matter?
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Now the electoral college is a problem?
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Not gonna happen.. but the streets will be occupied for 4 years.. and i hope protests are taken to the inauguration
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Donald Trump won fair and square,Democrats need new leadership to retool get their base out to vote in the mid term election in 2018 and presidential election 2020.
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What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.
And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.
But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were ? , no other 'minority' groups.