Is the east coast style of hip hop dying out? Lets talk about it.

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  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I hate to break this to ya'll but if a ? is rhyming over a beat anywhere on earth, he has that party in the Bronx to thank for it. There's over 200 species of turtle, but I bet they all got shells.

    Internet killed regional sound by the way.
  • Lab Baby
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    Weazel wrote: »
    1st answer: not dead, according to my playlist.
    2nd answer: been dead for many years already (mainstream)
    1st opinion about it: ? it, I can listen to it whenever I want.
    2nd opinion about it: the radio rather play/promote mumble rap.

    You know what, ? the radio, and ? the fake Hip Hop media.
    With that being said, East coast styled Hip Hop relied heavy on samples.
    And that ? cost money.
    Keep in mind that being a hustler is more important in Hip Hop nowadays..

    ..then being a dope MC

    So yeah
    Ain't nothing wrong with making money
    But a lot of these artists, ain't artistic, at all.
    They can't rhyme, they barely rap, plus they ain't got ? to say.

    Maybe 4 to 8 years of Trump will give 'em something to talk about.

    The biggest factor in all this. (Heavy) Sampling died down starting in the late 90s and the early 2000s, and unless your name is Erick Sermon, Swizz, Dame Grease or P. Killa (might be forgetting a few) there weren't too many producers using original sound in NY. There's tons of original sound in the south in particular, that's why they been able to stretch themselves so thinly for over a decade.
  • lamontbdc
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    wasn't this thread made last year?

    it's made every year i've been on here
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Brian B. wrote: »
    The country is merging, people doing ala carte. People wearing Polo, Timbs, Grills, Gucci, and riding foreigns which is some NY ? . Like I said A la Carte.

    Young MA, and Bobby didn't sound non NY to me.


    I'll give you timbs, but grills & cars sum NY ? lol
    my granny got permanent golds (open face) & there's a plethora of old folks down here who've had them 40+ yrs

    & don't talk about cars like ? in NY main transportation ain't the iron horse lol

    Fronts were popularized in BK
    If u ever been to New York you'd know ppl drive
  • Trillfate
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    Dipset jumped on the southern wave early af... they saw the change coming
  • Weazel
    Weazel Members Posts: 3,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lab Baby wrote: »
    Weazel wrote: »
    1st answer: not dead, according to my playlist.
    2nd answer: been dead for many years already (mainstream)
    1st opinion about it: ? it, I can listen to it whenever I want.
    2nd opinion about it: the radio rather play/promote mumble rap.

    You know what, ? the radio, and ? the fake Hip Hop media.
    With that being said, East coast styled Hip Hop relied heavy on samples.
    And that ? cost money.
    Keep in mind that being a hustler is more important in Hip Hop nowadays..

    ..then being a dope MC

    So yeah
    Ain't nothing wrong with making money
    But a lot of these artists, ain't artistic, at all.
    They can't rhyme, they barely rap, plus they ain't got ? to say.

    Maybe 4 to 8 years of Trump will give 'em something to talk about.

    The biggest factor in all this. (Heavy) Sampling died down starting in the late 90s and the early 2000s, and unless your name is Erick Sermon, Swizz, Dame Grease or P. Killa (might be forgetting a few) there weren't too many producers using original sound in NY. There's tons of original sound in the south in particular, that's why they been able to stretch themselves so thinly for over a decade.

    But Sermon used a lot of samples tho
    And he's a way better producer then Swizz

    Swizz just smashing buttons on his keyboard, lol
  • Peezy_Jenkins
    Peezy_Jenkins Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Boom bap is gone and dated, east coast music is cool when it incorporates other styles with out seemingly blatantly doin it to make a hit or some buzz imo
  • GetoBoy
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    That ? been dead
  • AP21
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    Lefty_ wrote: »
    I hate to break this to ya'll but if a ? is rhyming over a beat anywhere on earth, he has that party in the Bronx to thank for it. There's over 200 species of turtle, but I bet they all got shells.

    Internet killed regional sound by the way.


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  • _God_
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    How old are y'all ? 38+ ?
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Trillfate wrote: »
    Dipset jumped on the southern wave early af... they saw the change coming

    Swizz was the first; he went to school in Atlanta that's where he was influenced TJ get away from sample less production
  • Lab Baby
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    Weazel wrote: »
    Lab Baby wrote: »
    Weazel wrote: »
    1st answer: not dead, according to my playlist.
    2nd answer: been dead for many years already (mainstream)
    1st opinion about it: ? it, I can listen to it whenever I want.
    2nd opinion about it: the radio rather play/promote mumble rap.

    You know what, ? the radio, and ? the fake Hip Hop media.
    With that being said, East coast styled Hip Hop relied heavy on samples.
    And that ? cost money.
    Keep in mind that being a hustler is more important in Hip Hop nowadays..

    ..then being a dope MC

    So yeah
    Ain't nothing wrong with making money
    But a lot of these artists, ain't artistic, at all.
    They can't rhyme, they barely rap, plus they ain't got ? to say.

    Maybe 4 to 8 years of Trump will give 'em something to talk about.

    The biggest factor in all this. (Heavy) Sampling died down starting in the late 90s and the early 2000s, and unless your name is Erick Sermon, Swizz, Dame Grease or P. Killa (might be forgetting a few) there weren't too many producers using original sound in NY. There's tons of original sound in the south in particular, that's why they been able to stretch themselves so thinly for over a decade.

    But Sermon used a lot of samples tho
    And he's a way better producer then Swizz

    Swizz just smashing buttons on his keyboard, lol

    Not so much towards the late 90s. If he did, the samples were just layered around a beat he already made.

    Sidenote: I read somewhere that Neptunes sound was inspired by this:

    https://youtu.be/ajt5GfTuuHw
  • hiphop12345
    hiphop12345 Members Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Brian B. wrote: »
    The country is merging, people doing ala carte. People wearing Polo, Timbs, Grills, Gucci, and riding foreigns which is some NY ? . Like I said A la Carte.

    Young MA, and Bobby didn't sound non NY to me.


    I'll give you timbs, but grills & cars sum NY ? lol
    my granny got permanent golds (open face) & there's a plethora of old folks down here who've had them 40+ yrs

    & don't talk about cars like ? in NY main transportation ain't the iron horse lol

    Gold teeth is ancient but removable fronts is NY ? . I read some interview where Paul Wall was even talking about how in the south(or texas) people wore gold but it was permanent and this guy from NY came down and taught him and others how to make fronts. Also you have Eddie who took his business to Atlanta brought what was being done in NY.

    Permanents and removable are two different things.

    Everyone main transportation would be trains if the cities could afford to build them.
  • BackInWhite
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    Lefty_ wrote: »
    I hate to break this to ya'll but if a ? is rhyming over a beat anywhere on earth, he has that party in the Bronx to thank for it. There's over 200 species of turtle, but I bet they all got shells.

    Internet killed regional sound by the way.

    Irrelevant
  • bigrizz
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    As the originator it can't....
  • vespesianus
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    Reks still doin his boom bap east coast thing, the east coast sound ain't dead, just underground at the moment. It'll come back into the mainstream eventually don't worry, these things go in cycles
  • BackInWhite
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    bigrizz wrote: »
    As the originator it can't....

    Irrelevant
  • qawshun
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    Young m.a is weak imo she has no depth she's just looking for that 1 song she can play over and over ooouuu is prolly it but that'll be it from her. I don't see her lasting long.
    As for the rest of the list they all trash prolly i mean I've never wanted to hear any of their ? ever. But I've noticed you purposely skipped Dave east the one guy who has staying power outta the new breed of rappers.
    If these mf in position of power and influence stop supporting this trash ass rappers the game as a whole would be better. It's not just ny sound that's dying it's quality rap
  • BedStuy
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    Brian B. wrote: »
    The country is merging, people doing ala carte. People wearing Polo, Timbs, Grills, Gucci, and riding foreigns which is some NY ? . Like I said A la Carte.

    Young MA, and Bobby didn't sound non NY to me.
    but grills & cars sum NY ? lol
    my granny got permanent golds (open face) & there's a plethora of old folks down here who've had them 40+ yrs

    & don't talk about cars like ? in NY main transportation ain't the iron horse lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZxVFW_RMpc

    New York
    we done lost the towers
    but we ain't lose HipHop
    it's ours
    my New York Riders
    c'mon
    it was born inside us
    That's why my state is the livest
    Real ? know that
    every time we see a fitted and throwback
    Putting grills in your mouth
    all that ? is old black
    Y'all know that
    ? wanna to be like Slick Rick
    You're 'bout to get Vicked
    so think quick
    :smirk:

    Grills and cars been a nyc thing. Y'all Duckhead wearing southerners just took it to another level with rims and other ? .
    Word to my cousins in Augusta Georgia
  • Trollio
    Trollio Members Posts: 25,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BedStuy wrote: »
    Brian B. wrote: »
    The country is merging, people doing ala carte. People wearing Polo, Timbs, Grills, Gucci, and riding foreigns which is some NY ? . Like I said A la Carte.

    Young MA, and Bobby didn't sound non NY to me.
    but grills & cars sum NY ? lol
    my granny got permanent golds (open face) & there's a plethora of old folks down here who've had them 40+ yrs

    & don't talk about cars like ? in NY main transportation ain't the iron horse lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZxVFW_RMpc

    New York
    we done lost the towers
    but we ain't lose HipHop
    it's ours
    my New York Riders
    c'mon
    it was born inside us
    That's why my state is the livest
    Real ? know that
    every time we see a fitted and throwback
    Putting grills in your mouth
    all that ? is old black
    Y'all know that
    ? wanna to be like Slick Rick
    You're 'bout to get Vicked
    so think quick
    :smirk:

    Grills and cars been a nyc thing. Y'all Duckhead wearing southerners just took it to another level with rims and other ? .
    Word to my cousins in Augusta Georgia

    Get this stoop kid rap the ? outta here
  • Brian B.
    Brian B. Members Posts: 6,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Slick Rick? Lol

    so golds in NY go back as far as the 80's?


    guess what? it's folks below the mason-dixon who've had golds in they mouth over half a century


    & I kno it's sum folks in NY that got cars, but yall not known for that like in Texas, Florida or Cali


    NY is known for rats, cardboard thin pizza, lil ass apartments & subway stations (no diss)
  • hiphop12345
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    AggyAF wrote: »
    Brian B. wrote: »
    The country is merging, people doing ala carte. People wearing Polo, Timbs, Grills, Gucci, and riding foreigns which is some NY ? . Like I said A la Carte.

    Young MA, and Bobby didn't sound non NY to me.


    I'll give you timbs, but grills & cars sum NY ? lol
    my granny got permanent golds (open face) & there's a plethora of old folks down here who've had them 40+ yrs

    & don't talk about cars like ? in NY main transportation ain't the iron horse lol

    Fronts were popularized in BK
    If u ever been to New York you'd know ppl drive

    I don't know how people can no sign this comment. BK, Queens but obviously NY and NY has more Luxury car dealerships than any U.S city. It take ten years to drive 3 blocks in Manhattan rush our for a reason.

    Listen to the music, while most of America was talking about old American cars and hooking them up, NY was always on some Benz, Beamers, Porsche Lexus, Infinity, Saabs, Roles Royce, etc.
  • BedStuy
    BedStuy Members Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Trollio wrote: »
    BedStuy wrote: »
    Brian B. wrote: »
    The country is merging, people doing ala carte. People wearing Polo, Timbs, Grills, Gucci, and riding foreigns which is some NY ? . Like I said A la Carte.

    Young MA, and Bobby didn't sound non NY to me.
    but grills & cars sum NY ? lol
    my granny got permanent golds (open face) & there's a plethora of old folks down here who've had them 40+ yrs

    & don't talk about cars like ? in NY main transportation ain't the iron horse lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZxVFW_RMpc

    New York
    we done lost the towers
    but we ain't lose HipHop
    it's ours
    my New York Riders
    c'mon
    it was born inside us
    That's why my state is the livest
    Real ? know that
    every time we see a fitted and throwback
    Putting grills in your mouth
    all that ? is old black
    Y'all know that
    ? wanna to be like Slick Rick
    You're 'bout to get Vicked
    so think quick
    :smirk:

    Grills and cars been a nyc thing. Y'all Duckhead wearing southerners just took it to another level with rims and other ? .
    Word to my cousins in Augusta Georgia

    Get this stoop kid rap the ? outta here
    @Trollio
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  • hiphop12345
    hiphop12345 Members Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Brian B. wrote: »
    Slick Rick? Lol

    so golds in NY go back as far as the 80's?


    guess what? it's folks below the mason-dixon who've had golds in they mouth over half a century


    & I kno it's sum folks in NY that got cars, but yall not known for that like in Texas, Florida or Cali


    NY is known for rats, cardboard thin pizza, lil ass apartments & subway stations (no diss)
    lol sound mad bitter. You know more Black people own homes in NYC than any city in all the states you named?

    lmao@ cardboard thin pizza.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHcc6mv2KLc
  • Trollio
    Trollio Members Posts: 25,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like i have a fan

    No autographs today champ


    Just ? yourself and move it along