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  • playmaker88
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    Would be hilarious and just if the electoral college flipped on Trump
  • VIBE
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    Would be hilarious and just if the electoral college flipped on Trump

    Crazy rednecks would try to start another civil war for real. That's not even a joke.

    I still think this is plausible no matter what
  • Stiff
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    I'm hearing a lot of talk that Congressional Republicans will try to impeach Trump so they can get Pence (somebody who is more predictable and controlable) in.
  • infamous114
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  • blackrain
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    blackrain wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeff-sessions-racist-comments-derailed-federal-judgeship
    Sessions, Now Up For AG, Once Rejected From Judgeship For Racist Remarks

    A Republican-controlled Senate once rejected Sen. Jeff Sessions' (R-AL) nomination to a federal judgeship after several U.S. attorneys testified that he made racist comments.

    Due to his legal background, Sessions is currently one of President-elect Donald Trump’s rumored picks to fill the position of attorney general in his incoming administration. He is also currently a member of Trump’s transition team.

    Then the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Alabama, Sessions' nomination for the state's U.S. District Court was rejected in 1986 after other U.S. attorneys testified that he was hostile to civil rights cases and once called an African-American lawyer “boy," the New York Times noted Tuesday.

    According to a 2002 report by the New Republic, the attorney in question testified that Sessions also warned him to "be careful what you say to white folks."

    "Had Mr. Sessions merely urged me to be careful about what I said to 'folks,' that admonition would have been quite reasonable," the attorney wrote in a statement provided to reporters, according to a contemporaneous New York Times report. "But that was not the language that he used."

    Sessions denied making most of the remarks. He apologized for one comment he made in 1981, during a murder investigation involving the Ku Klux ? : That he had thought the ? was alright until he heard that some members smoked marijuana. He dismissed the remark as a joke, according to Tuesday's report by the Times.

    A Justice Department employee also came forward and testified that Sessions derided the NAACP and ACLU as "Communist-inspired" and "un-American." Sessions repeated that characterization during his own confirmation hearings, according to the New Republic, and went on to describe the Voting Rights Act as a "piece of intrusive legislation."

    Sessions said that he "meant no harm" by his remarks about the NAACP, the Times reported back then.

    He denied being racist, the New Republic reported, and defended himself by citing his children's attendance at integrated schools as well as multiple occasions when he shared a hotel room with a black lawyer.

    Vice President Joe Biden, then a Delaware senator and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, urged then-President Ronald Reagan to withdraw his nomination of Sessions from consideration, according to the 1986 Times report. Biden called prospects for the nomination "bleak" in a contemporaneous interview, saying Sessions' comments demonstrated that he was unfit to serve in a federal judgeship.

    The CQ Almanac noted at the time it was "only the second time in 48 years" that the Senate Judiciary Committee had refused to send a judicial nominee to the full chamber.

    This is all very confusing.. Since Trump "supporters" say he's not racist.. Yet he keeps putting racist ass people in positions of power.. Hmm...



    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-sessions-attorney-general
    Donald Trump has decided to nominate Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) to be his attorney general, according to Friday morning reports from CBS News, Bloomberg News, and the New York Times.

    CBS News reported that Trump "offered" the post to Sessions, citing "sources directly involved in the selection process," while Bloomberg News reported that Trump had chosen Sessions but that it was unclear whether the senator had officially been offered the post. The New York Times reported that Trump has "selected" Sessions to be his attorney general.

    Sessions' nomination will likely be met with opposition in the Senate. While serving as a U.S. attorney in Alabama, Sessions was nominated for a federal judgeship in 1986, but he was never confirmed due to past racist comments. He withdrew his name from consideration and went on to be the Alabama attorney general and later a senator.

    The more people he puts in position the more I've seen some of the "it won't be so bad" pulling this kjd8laryppxl.gif

    Those people are frauds, who only live by a code when it's convenient. It's good that they're being exposed, that way you can know not to ? with them, as they're proven to buckle under pressure.

    Or maybe they're smart enough to know when they were talking out the side of their neck and we're saying something stupid

    If that's the case, it's also a red flag, as a man should always think things through before speaking/acting. You should never stand with something to the point where you now think it's stupid after only a few weeks. You're suppose to do the research BEFORE you bring it to the people.

    Huge character flaw. Screams snitch ass ? . Cut 'em off.

    Because changing your mind is a terrible trait...especially changing it as you gain new information...you do know part of being a man is also being able to admit when you were wrong and adjust accordingly?
  • Peace_79
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    Go figure wrote: »
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Hilary made that speech to Wall Street tho ...

    Yea she did.

    And she wanted to keep the same bankers in power that got bailed out for ? the country into recession.


    Well...

    Destabilizing the pillars of our multi-Trillion dollar infrastructure is NOT a trivial thing.

    That would introduce a multitude of sizeable known and unknown problems to the world economy.

    Sensible regulation makes a lot more sense than the radical platitudes that Bernie promised on the campaign trail.









    Go figure wrote: »
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Hilary made that speech to Wall Street tho ...


    How does trump being a ? bag take away from that?


    It doesn't "take away" from that.

    But let me ask you this - Which would you rather have?:

    - The prospect of going to Bank of America to deposit a check ... like you always have.

    - Or the prospect of the President of the United States meeting with international Diplomats and bargaining our country's politcal influence for a night at one of his hotels




    In other words, which one is worse?





  • Go figure
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    Cmon bruh with those hypotheticals
  • Go figure
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    Would u rather have a ? bag or a ? bag with hot sauce in it?
  • marc123
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  • NothingButTheTruth
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    blackrain wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeff-sessions-racist-comments-derailed-federal-judgeship
    Sessions, Now Up For AG, Once Rejected From Judgeship For Racist Remarks

    A Republican-controlled Senate once rejected Sen. Jeff Sessions' (R-AL) nomination to a federal judgeship after several U.S. attorneys testified that he made racist comments.

    Due to his legal background, Sessions is currently one of President-elect Donald Trump’s rumored picks to fill the position of attorney general in his incoming administration. He is also currently a member of Trump’s transition team.

    Then the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Alabama, Sessions' nomination for the state's U.S. District Court was rejected in 1986 after other U.S. attorneys testified that he was hostile to civil rights cases and once called an African-American lawyer “boy," the New York Times noted Tuesday.

    According to a 2002 report by the New Republic, the attorney in question testified that Sessions also warned him to "be careful what you say to white folks."

    "Had Mr. Sessions merely urged me to be careful about what I said to 'folks,' that admonition would have been quite reasonable," the attorney wrote in a statement provided to reporters, according to a contemporaneous New York Times report. "But that was not the language that he used."

    Sessions denied making most of the remarks. He apologized for one comment he made in 1981, during a murder investigation involving the Ku Klux ? : That he had thought the ? was alright until he heard that some members smoked marijuana. He dismissed the remark as a joke, according to Tuesday's report by the Times.

    A Justice Department employee also came forward and testified that Sessions derided the NAACP and ACLU as "Communist-inspired" and "un-American." Sessions repeated that characterization during his own confirmation hearings, according to the New Republic, and went on to describe the Voting Rights Act as a "piece of intrusive legislation."

    Sessions said that he "meant no harm" by his remarks about the NAACP, the Times reported back then.

    He denied being racist, the New Republic reported, and defended himself by citing his children's attendance at integrated schools as well as multiple occasions when he shared a hotel room with a black lawyer.

    Vice President Joe Biden, then a Delaware senator and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, urged then-President Ronald Reagan to withdraw his nomination of Sessions from consideration, according to the 1986 Times report. Biden called prospects for the nomination "bleak" in a contemporaneous interview, saying Sessions' comments demonstrated that he was unfit to serve in a federal judgeship.

    The CQ Almanac noted at the time it was "only the second time in 48 years" that the Senate Judiciary Committee had refused to send a judicial nominee to the full chamber.

    This is all very confusing.. Since Trump "supporters" say he's not racist.. Yet he keeps putting racist ass people in positions of power.. Hmm...



    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-sessions-attorney-general
    Donald Trump has decided to nominate Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) to be his attorney general, according to Friday morning reports from CBS News, Bloomberg News, and the New York Times.

    CBS News reported that Trump "offered" the post to Sessions, citing "sources directly involved in the selection process," while Bloomberg News reported that Trump had chosen Sessions but that it was unclear whether the senator had officially been offered the post. The New York Times reported that Trump has "selected" Sessions to be his attorney general.

    Sessions' nomination will likely be met with opposition in the Senate. While serving as a U.S. attorney in Alabama, Sessions was nominated for a federal judgeship in 1986, but he was never confirmed due to past racist comments. He withdrew his name from consideration and went on to be the Alabama attorney general and later a senator.

    The more people he puts in position the more I've seen some of the "it won't be so bad" pulling this kjd8laryppxl.gif

    Those people are frauds, who only live by a code when it's convenient. It's good that they're being exposed, that way you can know not to ? with them, as they're proven to buckle under pressure.

    Or maybe they're smart enough to know when they were talking out the side of their neck and we're saying something stupid

    If that's the case, it's also a red flag, as a man should always think things through before speaking/acting. You should never stand with something to the point where you now think it's stupid after only a few weeks. You're suppose to do the research BEFORE you bring it to the people.

    Huge character flaw. Screams snitch ass ? . Cut 'em off.

    Because changing your mind is a terrible trait...especially changing it as you gain new information...you do know part of being a man is also being able to admit when you were wrong and adjust accordingly?

    You're a girl?
  • Peace_79
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    Go figure wrote: »
    Cmon bruh with those hypotheticals

    Hypotheticals?

    I alluded to what Clinton was proposing to do and what Trump IS already DOING before he's even been inaugurated.

    What about that is hypothetical?




    Care to answer the question, tho?


  • zzombie
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    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm hearing a lot of talk that Congressional Republicans will try to impeach Trump so they can get Pence (somebody who is more predictable and controlable) in.

    impeach him based on what??? It would be political suicide
  • Go figure
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Go figure wrote: »
    Cmon bruh with those hypotheticals

    Hypotheticals?

    I alluded to what Clinton was proposing to do and what Trump IS already DOING before he's even been inaugurated.

    What about that is hypothetical?




    Care to asnwer the question, tho?

    Obviously the worst one would be the trump option. But when u set up a question for hillary's choice to be neutral/positive and trumps choice to be negative u are fixing the question to your liking.

    U tryna rig the ? like hillary tried to rig the election no wonder u voted for her
  • Rubato Garcia
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm hearing a lot of talk that Congressional Republicans will try to impeach Trump so they can get Pence (somebody who is more predictable and controlable) in.

    impeach him based on what??? It would be political suicide

    Dude has no clue what he is and isn't allowed to do. My guess is they'll have their pick of semi-serious infractions after about a year or so.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm hearing a lot of talk that Congressional Republicans will try to impeach Trump so they can get Pence (somebody who is more predictable and controlable) in.

    impeach him based on what??? It would be political suicide

    Dude has no clue what he is and isn't allowed to do. My guess is they'll have their pick of semi-serious infractions after about a year or so.

    It doesn't work like that you can't just impeach the president because he's an idiot he has to actually willingly break a law.
  • Peace_79
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    Go figure wrote: »
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Go figure wrote: »
    Cmon bruh with those hypotheticals

    Hypotheticals?

    I alluded to what Clinton was proposing to do and what Trump IS already DOING before he's even been inaugurated.

    What about that is hypothetical?




    Care to asnwer the question, tho?

    Obviously the worst one would be the trump option. But when u set up a question for hillary's choice to be neutral/positive and trumps choice to be negative u are fixing the question to your liking.

    U tryna rig the ? like hillary tried to rig the election no wonder u voted for her

    Ok.

    Let's be clear.

    Are you suggesting that a President refusing to dismantle the financial system ...

    is WORSE than meeting with international Diplomats and bargaining our country's politcal influence for a night at one of your hotels?




    Please feel free to phrase that with as much positivity and neutrality for either party; as you like.

  • Go figure
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Go figure wrote: »
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Go figure wrote: »
    Cmon bruh with those hypotheticals

    Hypotheticals?

    I alluded to what Clinton was proposing to do and what Trump IS already DOING before he's even been inaugurated.

    What about that is hypothetical?




    Care to asnwer the question, tho?

    Obviously the worst one would be the trump option. But when u set up a question for hillary's choice to be neutral/positive and trumps choice to be negative u are fixing the question to your liking.

    U tryna rig the ? like hillary tried to rig the election no wonder u voted for her

    Ok.

    Let's be clear.

    Are you suggesting that a President refusing to dismantle the financial system ...

    is WORSE than meeting with international Diplomats and bargaining our country's politcal influence for a night at one of your hotels?




    Please feel free to phrase that with as much positivity and neutrality for either party; as you like.

    Im not suggesting that, youre coming up with ? outta nowhere.

    And as far as dismantling the financial system it would obviously be a long process that wouldnt happen overnight and id be in favor of a non corrupt financial system over a corrupt one.

    And that is not to say Trump is gonna fix it he only sees green...but so does hillary
  • Go figure
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    Would u rather have a corrupt financial system or would u rather steps be taken to begin dismantling it in hopes that practices are fairer over time?
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    Why would Trump dismantle something he's a part of
  • Go figure
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Why would Trump or Hillary dismantle something theyre a part of

    Idk
  • Peace_79
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    Go figure wrote: »
    Would u rather have a corrupt financial system or would u rather steps be taken to begin dismantling it in hopes that practices are fairer over time?

    In a vaccum, that would be fabulous.

    But I also don't think it's plausible or necessary.

    We live in a capitalist society. You can't over correct for every abuse of financial power. You risk suppressing the very oxygen our economy needs to survive.

    There are serious consequences for what you're suggesting.

    A safer course of action would be to introduce and execute sensible regulation.







    But this debate is immaterial.

    Why?

    Because even if what you are suggesting was the absolute BEST thing to do -

    Trump isn't doing it ANYWAY.

    In fact, our President Elect is exceptionally WORSE than his opponent in basically every category imaginable - without even mentioning the Supreme Court, his Cabinet; and the rest of his Adminstration.


    Do you realize this man is going to cut taxes of the 1% by more than half ????


    How does that help your dream of wealth distribution and income equality?

    Help me understand.
  • Stiff
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    At a certain point we're gonna have to stop talking about Hillary... She's gone and she's not coming back

    Trump is talking about ending federal student loans tho
  • Stiff
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    Stiff wrote: »
    At a certain point we're gonna have to stop talking about Hillary... She's gone and she's not coming back

    Trump is talking about ending federal student loans tho

    Pell grants would likely follow
  • Go figure
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    "For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees."

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html