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  • JJ_Evans
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    fortyacres wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/XSX2LP5lLfQ

    lol @ Joe tryna pivot and make excuses for Trump.

    ? Joe and Mika. They gave him his initial platform and helped him throughout the campaign.
  • stringer bell
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-doubles-down-diversity-class-remarks
    Sanders Doubles Down: Dems Need More Than Racial And Gender Diversity Alone

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) posted a statement on Tuesday doubling down on comments he made urging Democrats to support diverse candidates for office who would also focus on the working class and stand up to corporate power.

    In a Medium post titled “How Democrats Move Forward,” Sanders wrote that, given the recent election results, Democrats “need to seriously rethink who we are and how we best go forward.” He emphasized that the Democratic Party is the “party of diversity,” and that it should continue to involve people of diverse racial and gender backgrounds in the political process.

    "But," he wrote, “to think of diversity purely in racial and gender terms is not sufficient.”

    “Yes, we need more candidates of diversity, but we also need candidates—no matter what race or gender—to be fighters for the working class and stand up to the corporate powers who have so much power over our economic lives,” the post read in part. “We need all of our candidates to have the courage to stand up to the Koch Brothers, Wall Street, drug companies, insurance companies, oil companies, and fight for working families — not just the top one percent.”

    The statement came after Sanders made similar remarks over the weekend about how he believes Democrats should shift their focus beyond "identity politics" after Donald Trump's electoral victory.

    During a Q&A session after a speech in Boston on Sunday, Sanders said that while the Democratic Party needed to keep working to elect more racially and gender diverse candidates, “one of the struggles that you’re going to be seeing in the Democratic Party is whether we go beyond identity politics.”

    "It's not good enough to say, 'Hey, I'm a Latina, vote for me.' That is not good enough. I have to know whether that Latina is going to stand up with the working class of this country, and is going to take on big money interests," Sanders said, responding to a someone who asked about her aspiration to be the second Latina U.S. senator.

    "I think it’s a step forward in America if you have an African-American CEO of some major corporation,” Sanders said later in his answer. “But you know what, if that guy is going to be shipping jobs out of this country, and exploiting his workers, it doesn’t mean a whole hell of a lot whether he’s black or white or Latino."

    Those remarks spawned varying interpretations, from the argument that Sanders meant to “layer a big dose of economic populism on top of these social-justice concerns” to the argument that “Sanders himself understands his main intraparty ideological opponents in these terms."

    And this why Bernie couldn't win any states in the primary that had significant black or hispanic folks in it...
  • Mister B.
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    JJ_Evans wrote: »
    If the good Doc pulls this off, I never want to hear from you third party bashers ever a-? -gain.
  • MarcusGarvey
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    1CK1S wrote: »

    I know they trying to funnel public funds to private hands but black kids need chartered schools that are well regulated
  • matches malone
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    Mister B. wrote: »
    JJ_Evans wrote: »
    If the good Doc pulls this off, I never want to hear from you third party bashers ever a-? -gain.

    how would this even work? Jill gets a recount on her terms, w/o Clinton's approval, since Stein is a candidate too and doesnt need her to say anything on it, proves Hillary got more votes, wins the electoral college, and she wins?

    cmon man that ? would be nice but we know it aint happening.
  • 5th Letter
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    Meanwhile

    A federal judge in Texas issued a nationwide injunction on Tuesday against an Obama administration regulation expanding by millions the number of workers who would be eligible for time-and-a-half overtime pay.

    The regulation was scheduled to take effect on Dec. 1. It would raise the salary limit below which workers automatically qualified for overtime pay to $47,476 from $23,660.

    The judge, Amos L. Mazzant III of the Eastern District of Texas, ruled that the Obama administration had exceeded its authority by raising the overtime salary limit so significantly. The ruling was hailed by business groups who argued the new rules would be costly and result in fewer hours for workers.

    lmao poor people stay losing

    But Obama never did nothing for black people

    Poor people=black people and 2 people consigned this ? . Smh.
  • MarcusGarvey
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    Meanwhile

    A federal judge in Texas issued a nationwide injunction on Tuesday against an Obama administration regulation expanding by millions the number of workers who would be eligible for time-and-a-half overtime pay.

    The regulation was scheduled to take effect on Dec. 1. It would raise the salary limit below which workers automatically qualified for overtime pay to $47,476 from $23,660.

    The judge, Amos L. Mazzant III of the Eastern District of Texas, ruled that the Obama administration had exceeded its authority by raising the overtime salary limit so significantly. The ruling was hailed by business groups who argued the new rules would be costly and result in fewer hours for workers.

    lmao poor people stay losing

    But Obama never did nothing for black people

    Poor people=black people and 2 people consigned this ? . Smh.

    So they aren't disproportionately poor? Not what the data says
  • Peace_79
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    Meanwhile

    A federal judge in Texas issued a nationwide injunction on Tuesday against an Obama administration regulation expanding by millions the number of workers who would be eligible for time-and-a-half overtime pay.

    The regulation was scheduled to take effect on Dec. 1. It would raise the salary limit below which workers automatically qualified for overtime pay to $47,476 from $23,660.

    The judge, Amos L. Mazzant III of the Eastern District of Texas, ruled that the Obama administration had exceeded its authority by raising the overtime salary limit so significantly. The ruling was hailed by business groups who argued the new rules would be costly and result in fewer hours for workers.

    lmao poor people stay losing

    But Obama never did nothing for black people

    Poor people=black people and 2 people consigned this ? . Smh.

    Ironic.

    When many of the Non-voter crowd of the IC have overwhelmingly used the (obvious) poor economic condition of black people in America as their reasoning "Democrats haven't done anything for black people".

    Yall can't play both sides.

    FOH
  • 5th Letter
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    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.
  • fortyacres
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    JJ_Evans wrote: »

    deadline is Friday and she needs 2.5 mill for that.

    so she believes in the so called "lesser of two evils" now
  • MarcusGarvey
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,479 Regulator
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    JJ_Evans wrote: »
    fortyacres wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/XSX2LP5lLfQ

    lol @ Joe tryna pivot and make excuses for Trump.

    ? Joe and Mika. They gave him his initial platform and helped him throughout the campaign.

    Mika disappoints me i know she claims to be a democrat (always riding the co-tails of her father) , but the way she acts and speaks she seems like a closet conservative or republican to me, Joe defends, makes excuses for republicans all the time , speaks over her and she doesnt even speak up or defend any of her party's policies , shiets' discustin. These people are part of the con.
  • playmaker88
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    all she does is make faces.. its far and few beween that she digs deep and says something of merit concerning the absurdity of it all.. and Joe is an idiot he reminds me of beavis.. or buthead whatever that ? name was
  • 5th Letter
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes

    When Obama passes policy's for Latinos, gave Jews reparations, pass bills for ? people, did ? for Native Americans, that was SPECIFICALLY for them. Obama doing ? for poor people is not doing anything specific for black people.
  • fortyacres
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes

    When Obama passes policy's for Latinos, gave Jews reparations, pass bills for ? people, did ? for Native Americans, that was SPECIFICALLY for them. Obama doing ? for poor people is not doing anything specific for black people.

    this is not true , do your googles bro its not that difficult.

    If you feel he hasnt done enough then maybe you have a perspective argument, but he has passed legislation and policy for Black People specifically.
  • 5th Letter
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    fortyacres wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes

    When Obama passes policy's for Latinos, gave Jews reparations, pass bills for ? people, did ? for Native Americans, that was SPECIFICALLY for them. Obama doing ? for poor people is not doing anything specific for black people.

    this is not true , do your googles bro its not that difficult.

    If you feel he hasnt done enough then maybe you have a perspective argument, but he has passed legislation and policy for Black People specifically.

    We had this discussion before right?
  • Lord Ether
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    Meanwhile

    A federal judge in Texas issued a nationwide injunction on Tuesday against an Obama administration regulation expanding by millions the number of workers who would be eligible for time-and-a-half overtime pay.

    The regulation was scheduled to take effect on Dec. 1. It would raise the salary limit below which workers automatically qualified for overtime pay to $47,476 from $23,660.

    The judge, Amos L. Mazzant III of the Eastern District of Texas, ruled that the Obama administration had exceeded its authority by raising the overtime salary limit so significantly. The ruling was hailed by business groups who argued the new rules would be costly and result in fewer hours for workers.

    lmao poor people stay losing

    But Obama never did nothing for black people

    Poor people=black people and 2 people consigned this ? . Smh.

    So they aren't disproportionately poor? Not what the data says

    Black people need to stop being grouped with other people in umbrella terms. Thats how we end up receiving the short end of the stick. Our needs need to be addressed specifically. We also don't need any symbolic victories.
  • 5th Letter
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    Lord Ether wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Meanwhile

    A federal judge in Texas issued a nationwide injunction on Tuesday against an Obama administration regulation expanding by millions the number of workers who would be eligible for time-and-a-half overtime pay.

    The regulation was scheduled to take effect on Dec. 1. It would raise the salary limit below which workers automatically qualified for overtime pay to $47,476 from $23,660.

    The judge, Amos L. Mazzant III of the Eastern District of Texas, ruled that the Obama administration had exceeded its authority by raising the overtime salary limit so significantly. The ruling was hailed by business groups who argued the new rules would be costly and result in fewer hours for workers.

    lmao poor people stay losing

    But Obama never did nothing for black people

    Poor people=black people and 2 people consigned this ? . Smh.

    So they aren't disproportionately poor? Not what the data says

    Black people need to stop being grouped with other people in umbrella terms. Thats how we end up receiving the short end of the stick. Our needs need to be addressed specifically. We also don't need any symbolic victories.

    Thank you, you said it better than I could, anyway next topic.
  • Max.
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  • MarcusGarvey
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes

    When Obama passes policy's for Latinos, gave Jews reparations, pass bills for ? people, did ? for Native Americans, that was SPECIFICALLY for them. Obama doing ? for poor people is not doing anything specific for black people.

    What laws/policy did Obama pass specifically for Latinos?

    Get ready for the set up, pick your answer carefully
  • MarcusGarvey
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    I'll concede the point on $12m holocaust survivors, that's another rant for another day. The way the US treats, you know what, we all know what that's about
  • 5th Letter
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes

    When Obama passes policy's for Latinos, gave Jews reparations, pass bills for ? people, did ? for Native Americans, that was SPECIFICALLY for them. Obama doing ? for poor people is not doing anything specific for black people.

    What laws/policy did Obama pass specifically for Latinos?

    Get ready for the set up, pick your answer carefully

    Lol at get ready for the set up let me guess black immigrants benefitted from it too?
  • MarcusGarvey
    MarcusGarvey Members Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    There are poor whites and poor blacks. That policy that Obama put out wasn't done specifically for black people.

    "Specifically"

    Even if the policy would specifically help black people making less than $47k?
    The median income for blacks is like 35k. So that would be a lot of people.

    Chess not checkers

    I don't get the "Barack didn't do anything specifically for black people" crowd sometimes

    When Obama passes policy's for Latinos, gave Jews reparations, pass bills for ? people, did ? for Native Americans, that was SPECIFICALLY for them. Obama doing ? for poor people is not doing anything specific for black people.

    What laws/policy did Obama pass specifically for Latinos?

    Get ready for the set up, pick your answer carefully

    Lol at get ready for the set up let me guess black immigrants benefitted from it too?

    Haha. All right I'm done