Future Questions Jay-Z and Reasonable Doubt Status in Hip Hop
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RD was released 20 years ago, went gold in a matter of months and had a couple of gold singles.....Good for a ? on Rocafella/Freeze records....U ? kno that popularity doesnt define quality....Was rocking RD early and prolly calling it a classic not too long after its release.....So it had to be an instant classic?...lol
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RD sales wise flopped, and it ain´t have the impact Jay wanted, later on when in a position to use his celebrity, is when Jay started forcing this rhetoric down ppls throat, that the album was a classic and liken it to illmatic and the other classic albums of the era, telling ? they were sleepin, nah, it just didnt have that impact at the time, cuz it wasn´t ? with what was out at the time, ? couldn´t survive at that time, point blank!
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you got clowns now and you had clowns back in the days too! real hip hop heads knew about jay and reasonable doubt Biggie and Foxy where on the ? album! AZ and Biggie and Lil cease were in the video playin monopoly with real money first time we ever saw that ? in a video what the ? were ya'll clowns listening too ? hahaha
and he had 4 mics in the source ,just because some people only knew what was poppin on comercial radio ,dont mean he was nobody ! fact is ,In my lifetime had a big hype but it dissapointed,so he made Streets Is Watching ,got hot again and blew up big time on vol.2 by that time Reasonable doubt was already considered a classic -
shieeet ? went Gold independent so they caked off compared to those other names he's compared to
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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 wrote: »http://news.hiphopearly.com/future-argues-jay-zs-reasonable-doubt-wasnt-hot-until-biggie-pac-died/
Future talking about when nas dropped his first album then mentions "If I ruled the world" calling it when i ruled the world, which wasn't even on illmatic. ? outta here Future Luther Queen. He don't even know what he talking about. -
Cutler 26 INT's LOL! wrote: »I knew who Jay was in 96 due to Aint No ? but that song was promoting the Nutty Professor soundtrack.
I copped Reasonable Doubt in 2003
How dumb are you???? Ain't no ? might have been on nutty professors sound track,Kevin liles put it on there for promotion when def jam wanted to partner up with the Roc but it's still a ? Jayzs song on reasonable doubt
Meaning you knew Jay from Jays song.
Smfh at the guys that consigned this ignorance -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »He told the truth. Outside of ny Jay ain't get popular til 98 when hard knock life Annie sing dropped. When pac said ? Jay z other regions listened . Also the fast rap camp lo style wasn't tight to a lot of folk
So you south ? was like "? Dead Presidents and Can't Knock the Hustle but this Annie sample we just can't resist."
dead presidents was dope but he wasnt big in 96 . no pun intended lol
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nawledge_? wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »He told the truth. Outside of ny Jay ain't get popular til 98 when hard knock life Annie sing dropped. When pac said ? Jay z other regions listened . Also the fast rap camp lo style wasn't tight to a lot of folk
So you south ? was like "? Dead Presidents and Can't Knock the Hustle but this Annie sample we just can't resist."
dead presidents was dope but he wasnt big in 96 . no pun intended lol
#Bars
he was big for someone with a first album on a small company.. -
international wrote: »RD sales wise flopped, and it ain´t have the impact Jay wanted, later on when in a position to use his celebrity, is when Jay started forcing this rhetoric down ppls throat, that the album was a classic and liken it to illmatic and the other classic albums of the era, telling ? they were sleepin, nah, it just didnt have that impact at the time, cuz it wasn´t ? with what was out at the time, ? couldn´t survive at that time, point blank!
You killed your own argument with the Illmatic comparison. Illmatic sold under 15 k it's first week. It did not go plat until damn near 10 years. The difference was Nas was an M.C.with a build up who delivered with an undeniable classic. Jay came back with a new style and a very good album. ? Jay even says he didn't know how to structure a song when he did RD. He was not yelling classic and yall slept ? he was suppose to retire after volume 1. But best believe Hip Hop heads were talking about the album. Being a Hip Hop head was not the norm as it is today. ? you couldn't hear Hip Hop in a club until damn near 3 A.M.some nights. -
dalyricalbandit wrote: »shieeet ? went Gold independent so they caked off compared to those other names he's compared to
What's the position you hold? Can you really match
a triple platinum artist buck by buck by only a single goin gold?
? - all struck
Your single was 99 cents, mines was 4 bucks
Last year, when ? thought it was all up
But this year I've done it again, jigga!
What the ?
These are the words of a independent artist" -
Cutler 26 INT's LOL! wrote: »I knew who Jay was in 96 due to Aint No ? but that song was promoting the Nutty Professor soundtrack.
I copped Reasonable Doubt in 2003
How dumb are you???? Ain't no ? might have been on nutty professors sound track,Kevin liles put it on there for promotion when def jam wanted to partner up with the Roc but it's still a ? Jayzs song on reasonable doubt
Meaning you knew Jay from Jays song.
Smfh at the guys that consigned this ignorance
How dumb are you?? The argument was about Reasonable Doubt status in 96. I stated a knew who Jay-Z was but I aint know he had a album called Reasonable Doubt till 2003.
Jigga Warriors be thirsty to try and prove somebody wrong about they daddy Jay-Z