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  • RickyRich
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    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    I bet there aint no biggie fans in your pm doing that ? ? you be doing. The irony and nerve of you ?

    Why r u bringing up ? that had nothing to do with the topic. When ? lose an agurement they decide bring up anything
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    Nah you tried to play ? acting like they stans. It was very relevant ? ?
  • 5 Grand
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    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    Biggie could rap circles around MC New York

    So why didn't he

    He did
  • RickyRich
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    Nah you tried to play ? acting like they stans. It was very relevant ? ?

    Y u mad bruh. Yo dad still aint come frm the store
  • hiphop12345
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    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    Biggie could rap circles around MC New York

    So why didt he

    You really think this guy couldn't hold himself down if he decided to turn up?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qoSVxQKms
  • DR. JEK
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    Biggie could rap circles around MC New York

    Then why didn't he? I'm pretty sure he had more than 90 days son.


    But even if we entertain what you said, OK....should it really take a month or more to respond to a cat you can "rap circles around"?

    What you guys don't seem to realize....is by not giving Pac his just due, it actually makes Biggie look worse instead of helping his cause. It Makes it look like the best rapper in the world got took out by some herb or something which for y'all should be even more soul burning. It's better if y'all just say Pac was one of the all-time greats and it ain't no shame in losing to him. That would actually make Big look better and possibly get more of a pass from the masses.
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    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    Biggie could rap circles around MC New York

    So why didt he

    You really think this guy couldn't hold himself down if he decided to turn up?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qoSVxQKms

    Pac said he would ? his damn kids tho!!!!

    That's not enough for you as a man to "decide to turn up"?

    BEFORE OTHERS HAD TO STAND UP FOR YOU?

    BEFORE THE ? THAT SAID IT CAUGHT AN UNRELATED FATAL SHOOTING SITUATION MONTHS AND MONTHS LATER?


    Biggie showed alot of restraint bruh, a ? tell me and the rest of the world he gonna ? my seeds, when I see that ? it's on and poppin! Atleast that's how I think.
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    Pac was what 5"10 or something? You 6"3 290 or something and you see that ? at the source awards and he don't catch a beat down for if nothing else disrespecting your family....yet you rapping about pistol whipping cats for stuff that's even less than that?

    Come on now yall


    It doesn't mean Big wasn't still a top five dead or a live but y'all gotta come to grips with He just handled the Pac ? completely wrong and shoulda made the east coast a little more proud by doing what he had to do. He dropped the ball and Pac kicked that same ball over the fence.
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    DR. JEK wrote: »
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    I know that "All I wanna do is make the whole crowd bounce yall" did get used on another track from Tha Doggfather. This track probably wasn't released because it didn't make the cut. Deathrow model was to record tracks constantly and just use the cream. Also, Snoop was shook up from that Murder case, and he didn't really wanna be bangin' on wax or doing any negative ? at the time. He wanted to be just hip-hop. So yeah, he wasn't gonna join Pac's rampage against whoever. Same with Rage. She wouldn't diss for Pac, and the next day her ? was on the street. Sam Sneed caught the beats from the whole staff, including Pac, for being cool with Dre. etc.....

    But yeah as far as all that woulda coulda shoulda ? .... pfft.... Bad Boy got ? on and didn't really respond. Big should have at least sicced the Junior Mafia on the Outlawz.

    Junior mafia wouldnt even handle outlawz . Yall sayiin outlawz is wacl wat about junior mafia. None of their members r even remembered except lilcease .

    how is lil cease the only one remembered from junior mafia when lil kim continued to go plat and is considered one of the best female rappers? smh whats wrong with yall ? man

    She became a solo artist and blew without them wack cats.

    ? what's your point, read rich post then mine. she still a former junior mafia member that blew up and still remembered. Which was the conversation. Gotdamn from you trying to claim that biggie was scared of the outlawz, to snoop not getting washed by eazy now this. You one dumb ? bruh, I'm not wasting my time, we done here.

    Outlawz may have never achieved the acclaim or fame they had with Pac but they continued to enjoy eating off the game and those that survive still do in one capacity or another. They actually had careers after Pac and only Kim had a career out of Junior Mafia the rest of those kats are footnotes Kim got over as a jump off that studied Biggies rhyme book and adopted the feminine ghost writing persona he had created. Lil Cease only has acclaim for nude male stripping after Biggie while every Surviving Outlaw has made multiple records and went on multiple tours since Pac's passing each establishing themselves in underground circles especially here in the West...
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    Y'all ever thought maybe big just wanted to have fun and make money?

    I'm 25 but I'm a biggie fan and from interviews about this and knowing he was really in the street he probably didn't wanna get back into that ? . For some ? who clearly tweekin? No
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    Y'all ever thought maybe big just wanted to have fun and make money?

    I'm 25 but I'm a biggie fan and from interviews about this and knowing he was really in the street he probably didn't wanna get back into that ? . For some ? who clearly tweekin? No

    I get fam and I hate to sound like a repetitive broken record here when I say this but it's all fun and games till they say they gont shoot your kids. That should atleast bring the protective "over my dead body" type mentality outta you, but instead ? all on yo mtv raps sounding all ? when asked about it.
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    Y'all ever thought maybe big just wanted to have fun and make money?

    I'm 25 but I'm a biggie fan and from interviews about this and knowing he was really in the street he probably didn't wanna get back into that ? . For some ? who clearly tweekin? No
    He is considered Horrorcore to a Degree and has multiple tracks about violence mutilation and sexual deviancy against individuals and you think the kat was all about Fun and Money. You have a ? up idea of what fun is lil homie...

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    RickyRich wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
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    5 Grand wrote: »
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    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
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    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    Biggie could rap circles around MC New York

    So why didt he

    You really think this guy couldn't hold himself down if he decided to turn up?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qoSVxQKms

    Im not sayin he cant im sayin why didt he do that.
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    Y'all ever thought maybe big just wanted to have fun and make money?

    I'm 25 but I'm a biggie fan and from interviews about this and knowing he was really in the street he probably didn't wanna get back into that ? . For some ? who clearly tweekin? No

    Excuses . All he had to do was reply thats it.
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    I have the outlawz on insta and they both look like they are doin well for themselves. They still tour and they very big out in Europe most of their shows are sold out. Edi doin the radio podcast ? now and noble doing his thing. Reason why they are not popular i would say is because pac made alot of enemies which made them get blackballed out the game. But i can they are happy how everything turned out for themselves
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    This just solidifies what was already known about Snoop. He was fake as ? switching sides. Funny to hear him talk about Biggie all those years like they were close buddies when he was recording this trash in the studio. Be a man, Cordozar Broadus.

    5 Grand wrote: »
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    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    I was scrolling back up and knew this was a 5 Grand post before I even saw the name. *smh*
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    Off topic wtf is this illbot donkey geek ? ? Now these goofy ass donkey mods like @stewpid can call on some donkey illbot nerd ? & ban ? from threads? Its official the ic is dead the ? ass donkey killed this ? smh
    DR. JEK wrote: »
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    I know that "All I wanna do is make the whole crowd bounce yall" did get used on another track from Tha Doggfather. This track probably wasn't released because it didn't make the cut. Deathrow model was to record tracks constantly and just use the cream. Also, Snoop was shook up from that Murder case, and he didn't really wanna be bangin' on wax or doing any negative ? at the time. He wanted to be just hip-hop. So yeah, he wasn't gonna join Pac's rampage against whoever. Same with Rage. She wouldn't diss for Pac, and the next day her ? was on the street. Sam Sneed caught the beats from the whole staff, including Pac, for being cool with Dre. etc.....

    But yeah as far as all that woulda coulda shoulda ? .... pfft.... Bad Boy got ? on and didn't really respond. Big should have at least sicced the Junior Mafia on the Outlawz.

    Junior mafia wouldnt even handle outlawz . Yall sayiin outlawz is wacl wat about junior mafia. None of their members r even remembered except lilcease .

    how is lil cease the only one remembered from junior mafia when lil kim continued to go plat and is considered one of the best female rappers? smh whats wrong with yall ? man

    She became a solo artist and blew without them wack cats.

    ? what's your point, read rich post then mine. she still a former junior mafia member that blew up and still remembered. Which was the conversation. Gotdamn from you trying to claim that biggie was scared of the outlawz, to snoop not getting washed by eazy now this. You one dumb ? bruh, I'm not wasting my time, we done here.

    Outlawz may have never achieved the acclaim or fame they had with Pac but they continued to enjoy eating off the game and those that survive still do in one capacity or another. They actually had careers after Pac and only Kim had a career out of Junior Mafia the rest of those kats are footnotes Kim got over as a jump off that studied Biggies rhyme book and adopted the feminine ghost writing persona he had created. Lil Cease only has acclaim for nude male stripping after Biggie while every Surviving Outlaw has made multiple records and went on multiple tours since Pac's passing each establishing themselves in underground circles especially here in the West...

    Lol lil cease learned from the best cuz big was out here n va n a hotel butt ass nekkid chillin wit ? n the room like it was all good no mann smh...but yeah the outlawz as a group went farther then the mafia after pac & big died
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    Lol stop don't nobody give a ? about the outlawz, them ? been releasing albums and dying since 96, and don't no one give a ? . Why is tupac even brought up anyway

    Because ole boy up there just assumes Big can destroy whoever and when Pac and the outlaws started actin a damn fool and getting at him real tough we saw no evidence of this monster MC Big was suppose to be. We saw a runner and a plea copper that resulted in NY taking an L. I will concede Biggie is an all-time great rapper as far as making hits and things of that nature, but just maybe he wasn't great at the battle rap on wax ? so having said that, why couldn't Snoop possibly get wit Big in a wax battle?especially Vs Big who admitted on life after deaths first track he tryna sell records like Snoop? Snoop coulda came at him like get off my ? fat Albert ass ? !

    im not even here to defend that ? but nowhere did that ? say big could destroy whoever.
    lethal5 wrote: »
    Snoops nice off the top of his head, but biggie would of killed it if he responded....especially since snoop looks like he weigh 2 pounds, u could make too good disses off that fact alone.

    he said Snoop because if you havent noticed thats who this thread is about. snoop dissing big. you simply took a simple quote of someone and try to make it out more than it was like you did with mine in that flex/bow wow thread lol. cut it out with this "NY took a L" ? .. especially when every single person on hit em up is from the NY/NJ area. it was a problem between 2 labels, pac said it himself. " I have no problem with the east coast im from the east coast, its just certain rappers"- The words of your GAWD tupac corleone. this the second time you trying to start some ? about some east/west ? that doesnt even need to go that route, leave your feelings in the 90s b

    and with your stupid logic of bring up "big couldnt even handle tupac" how did that battle with eazy E, a ? who wasnt even a legit rapper btw, work out for snoop?

    Eazy got embarrassed, that's why he had to go get BG knockout and them guys to do the heavy lifting in that beef but that was that ? . I'm talking about this right now, I'll go back to that beef in a little bit if you want.

    He said Biggie woulda killed it if he responded, how do we know that when he don't really have a track record of devastating responses to wax disses? Biggie had a great chance to make an example outta some people throwing rocks at the throne and he DIDN'T DO ? ! And no disrespect to Lethal5 I ain't got no issue wit him like that(I'm saying this off the bat so don't try to twist it up) but Don't be tryna tell me what that man said, I know what he ? said! Snoop a better rapper than anybody give him credit for, especially back then near the ? days. Yeah he suck today but back then he was still good enough to where a Big Vs Snoop ain't no guranteed Loss for Snoop. I have a right to believe what I believe based off what I seen and heard from Snoop, what I seen and heard from Big OR LACK THERE OF To formulate a logical response on the situation.

    I was around also From 94 to 97 so you can't trick me, I'm from that era not this ? skinny jean ? so I know what happened after "hit em up" dropped. Y'all can't revise the history as long as cats like me is still around and I'm not gonna let you. Biggie lost!! I remember being dissapointed because I was like everybody else, I thought he was better than Pac, probably better than Snoop, I know for a fact he was better than Jay and I almost convinced myself he was better than Nas, then Hit em up happen. Don't call yourself King of New York if you not gonna stand up for yourself if a ? tryna rip your heart outta your chest! CNN and Mobb shouldna had to pull a BG Knock out and stand up, he said he was gonna shoot your ? Cot damn kids, not theirs!!! ? is wrong wit y'all ? ? If you king of new York you you basically everything New York in the flesh so when you lose New York lose because you the embodiment of pride in New York. No ? way should these cats have come thru and kick his ball over the fence like that. Stop it!!!

    ? you sound so stupid you cant even stick to your own logic. ok so say we use that "if so and so lost to whoever how could he beat whoever". why dont you use that same logic for snoop losing to eazy e? what would be worst losing to pac or eazy e non rapping taking 12 hours to record 1 song ass?

    Im not even going to get into the long kiss goodnight OG version with cap being recorded before pac death ? cause its been told to you pac stans over 10000000000 gotdamn times and yall still go with this ? that everyone was so damn scared of the big bad Don tupac corleone that got shot and did nothing but throw temper tantrums over tracks that many people didnt even take serious. pac stans in 2017 still believe that who shot ya was a pac diss and he's alive in cuba sippin hennessy, so wtf can I tell ya huh?

    anyway, snoop got WASHED by eazy, either stick to your logic or shut cut the ?

    Ummmm....Snoop didn't lose to Eazy E, Dre and Snoop hurt that ? 's brand for a long ass time, don't know why u keep saying that. Bg knock out was the only one spit fire on the Eazy E side and then Nate Dogg went upside they ? head wit a golf club. I don't know what that ? got to do with Biggie not even standing up for y'all. You the one sound stupid. You defending something that's indefensible. Don't give me that long kiss goodnight ? either that was after a ? dead or the folktale that it was so vicious they had to cut some of it. Really my ? ? if it didn't come out and only junior mafia heard it it don't ? count! Hit em up did drop tho. ? said he ? his wife and gont ? his ? kids cot dammit! Big had almost eight months to drop a response (when ? coulda got on flex Hogan show the next day or two weeks later or even two months later and went off) before Pac got shot down and ? didn't. Go ahead and justify why CNN and Mobb could respond and Big didn't until a year in a quarter after a ? dead. Go head I'll wait


    Damn, you act like Christopher Wallace was your damn best friend from grade school or some ? ! It's like damn man,...what I'm saying is common knowledge, what you saying is some ole "best friend from school ass, change the narrative to Eazy E" ass ? .

    @ the bolded. Pac died 90 days after Hit Em Up was released

    In comparison, Ether came out about 90 days after Takeover was released.

    My point is that waiting 90 days wasn't unusual back then.

    Pac died before Big responded.

    Excuses. Pac was running his mouth bout big before hit em up drop . He could of diss at that time . Yall biggie fans be defendin that ? wit ur life

    Biggie could rap circles around MC New York

    So why didt he

    You really think this guy couldn't hold himself down if he decided to turn up?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qoSVxQKms

    Pac said he would ? his damn kids tho!!!!

    That's not enough for you as a man to "decide to turn up"?

    BEFORE OTHERS HAD TO STAND UP FOR YOU?

    BEFORE THE ? THAT SAID IT CAUGHT AN UNRELATED FATAL SHOOTING SITUATION MONTHS AND MONTHS LATER?


    Biggie showed alot of restraint bruh, a ? tell me and the rest of the world he gonna ? my seeds, when I see that ? it's on and poppin! Atleast that's how I think.

    Pac died right?
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    If the GIF was Dre you would be correct money cannot buy you happiness but it definitely can buy you protection and insurance...

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    If the GIF was Dre you would be correct money cannot buy you happiness but it definitely can buy you protection and insurance...

    Shout out to Dre apple deal but:

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    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sean-diddy-combs-becomes-hip-hops-first-billionaire-2017-brunson+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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    Sacrificed his "mans" life for it too...... i guess thats just how them least coast ? move thomjgrin.png
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    Nice smooth beat, trash song though