Hip-HopDX - Biggie Ain't The GOAT
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Shizlansky wrote: »3K Is much better than BigScarface is better than Biggie
we're waiting for a west coast answer, idk why Cain brought the south into it lol.
But no. 3k is as good as Big yes, don't really see how he's better. Scarface Andre BIG are all in my top 10 but Face is definitely not better in any way. -
Shizlansky wrote: »3K Is much better than BigScarface is better than Biggie
They both will tell you themselves they are not better than Biggie.. Truth be told.. Both of them ? have been influenced by Big as well.. But ya'll don't hear me though.
Also.. How the hell y'all gonna say Biggie can't be the GOAT cuz he only put out 2 albums.. Then turn around and nominate one half of a duo who to date has never even released a solo project..
C'mon son. -
Biggie influenced Scarface? Learn something new everyday.
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I mean. I gotta be from A region. I am in America
But I'm not from ATL
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EmM HoLLa. wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »3K Is much better than BigScarface is better than Biggie
They both will tell you themselves they are not better than Biggie.. Truth be told.. Both of them ? have been influenced by Big as well.. But ya'll don't hear me though.
Also.. How the hell y'all gonna say Biggie can't be the GOAT cuz he only put out 2 albums.. Then turn around and nominate one half of a duo who to date has never even released a solo project..
C'mon son.
All I know is Outkast dropped a Album in 94 (same year as ready to die) and I didn't here the influence BIG had on 3K
So just stop. 3K wordplay is GOAT.
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Lol there is no westcoast or south emcee better than Big.
I'm sure some regional ? will come in here and say a Devin the Dude or a Mac Dre type ? is better than Big. Lol KYS in advance
U dont want these hands old timer -
"Play hard like Reggie Miller, rapper slash dope dealer
Slash guerilla, slash illest turned illa..." -
Joker_De_La_Lover wrote: »There's no unanimous goat in hip hop.
That's the main point. There's no one general consensus choice for the title of GOAT, tho the Mt. Rushmore of Hip-hop has been generally accepted over the last 15 years as:
BIG
Pac
Nas
Jay
I personally think Rakim Allah should be on that Mt, but that's just me.... -
Joker_De_La_Lover wrote: »There's no unanimous goat in hip hop.
That's the main point. There's no one general consensus choice for the title of GOAT, tho the Mt. Rushmore of Hip-hop has been generally accepted over the last 15 years as:
BIG
Pac
Nas
Jay
I personally think Rakim Allah should be on that Mt, but that's just me....
Agree and c/s on Rakim
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So what if it's old. It's a part of history. BIGGIE NEVER RESPONDED. WHY? I remember back in high school everyone was waiting on Biggie like "Any moment now." LOL!
Just a few from all over.
WEST
2Pac
Ras Kass
Kendrick
Ice Cube
South
Scarface
Andre 3000
Midwest
Common
Lupe Fiasco
East
Nas
Jay-Z
And there's plenty of albums that SOUND better than Big's first two projects. example: Dr.Dre's "The Chronic" and Snoop's "? " and Cube's "Most Wanted" and "Death Certificate" and Public Enemy projects. Just a few.
Big's albums are not a golden shrine. LOL!
Is RTD a classic? Yes
Is Biggie one of the top MCs of all time: Yes
GOAT - NO
Damn. LOL! Yall act like by saying Kendrick is better, I'm saying Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer is better than BIG. -
Midwest_Journalist wrote: »So what if it's old. It's a part of history. BIGGIE NEVER RESPONDED. WHY? I remember back in high school everyone was waiting on Biggie like "Any moment now." LOL!
Just a few from all over.
WEST
2Pac
Ras Kass
Kendrick
Ice Cube
South
Scarface
Andre 3000
Midwest
Common
Lupe Fiasco
East
Nas
Jay-Z
And there's plenty of albums that SOUND better than Big's first two projects. example: Dr.Dre's "The Chronic" and Snoop's "? " and Cube's "Most Wanted" and "Death Certificate" and Public Enemy projects. Just a few.
Big's albums are not a golden shrine. LOL!
Is RTD a classic? Yes
Is Biggie one of the top MCs of all time: Yes
GOAT - NO
Damn. LOL! Yall act like by saying Kendrick is better, I'm saying Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer is better than BIG.
How many rappers you listed in your opinion is Kendrick better than? -
Even west coast legend Cube said Biggie will always be the King of NY (i think it was on vh1 hip hop honors the same year NWA was honored)...he even jacked a Biggie line and made it a chorus to one of his songs Child Support: "Nothing but my children, 1 shot they disappearing"
***Cube a West Coast legend, I must of seen him get asked atleast 5 times (even on this site), who his top 5 mcs are, and he NEVER mentions Pac -
Even west coast legend Cube said Biggie will always be the King of NY (i think it was on vh1 hip hop honors the same year NWA was honored)...he even jacked a Biggie line and made it a chorus to one of his songs Child Support: "Nothing but my children, 1 shot they disappearing"
***Cube a West Coast legend, I must of seen him get asked atleast 5 times (even on this site), who his top 5 mcs are, and he NEVER mentions Pac
What does a West Coast rapper saying a NY rapper will always be the King of NY mean? That don't phase what's going on where he's at. Not saying Cube is better than Biggie or Biggie is better than Cube. That's like Lebron James saying Russell Westbrook is the best player in the Western Conference. He didn't say he was better than him, he said he's the King over there. -
EmM HoLLa. wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »3K Is much better than BigScarface is better than Biggie
They both will tell you themselves they are not better than Biggie.. Truth be told.. Both of them ? have been influenced by Big as well.. But ya'll don't hear me though.
Also.. How the hell y'all gonna say Biggie can't be the GOAT cuz he only put out 2 albums.. Then turn around and nominate one half of a duo who to date has never even released a solo project..
C'mon son.
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Even west coast legend Cube said Biggie will always be the King of NY (i think it was on vh1 hip hop honors the same year NWA was honored)...he even jacked a Biggie line and made it a chorus to one of his songs Child Support: "Nothing but my children, 1 shot they disappearing"
***Cube a West Coast legend, I must of seen him get asked atleast 5 times (even on this site), who his top 5 mcs are, and he NEVER mentions Pac
What does a West Coast rapper saying a NY rapper will always be the King of NY mean? That don't phase what's going on where he's at. Not saying Cube is better than Biggie or Biggie is better than Cube. That's like Lebron James saying Russell Westbrook is the best player in the Western Conference. He didn't say he was better than him, he said he's the King over there.
It means i respect his opinion on this topic more than y'alls -
Homie said Ras Kass...
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What yall don't know.. Is that Diddy directed outkast Playas Ball video.. There was a relationship between Kast and Bad Boy. Big actually listened to Outkast when he recorded Ready to Die and Outkast listened to Big. There was a mutual respect between the MC's but again yall ? don't hear me..
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Lol there is no westcoast or south emcee better than Big.
I'm sure some regional ? will come in here and say a Devin the Dude or a Mac Dre type ? is better than Big. Lol KYS in advance
Cube and Scarface beg to differ -
Yeah, BIG always been dope. But Pac was better. And Future was right when he said Jay made good music, but he was just a stomp in the way while the goats were getting they shine on.....
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EmM HoLLa. wrote: »What yall don't know.. Is that Diddy directed outkast Playas Ball video.. There was a relationship between Kast and Bad Boy. Big actually listened to Outkast when he recorded Ready to Die and Outkast listened to Big. There was a mutual respect between the MC's but again yall ? don't hear me..
Nobody is arguing this tho. How does this translate to Biggie influencing Scarface and Outkast? -
Bruh if you can't see how that translates to influence I don't know what else to tell you. I'm also not saying it was one sided either.. They all influenced each other.. The game was a lot smaller back then..
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EmM HoLLa. wrote: »Bruh if you can't see how that translates to influence I don't know what else to tell you. I'm also not saying it was one sided either.. They all influenced each other.. The game was a lot smaller back then..
But Outkast put out an album BEFORE Biggies debut. This doesnt make any sense. -
Big the best rapper and Big L was about to blow
Max B was about to be the biggest rapper in the game. Dip set one of the best groups of all time -