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Came across these 2 articles back to back the irony of it....
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fortyacres wrote: »ThaNubianGod wrote: »Angeles1son85 wrote: »steve harvey leaving trump towers gonna work with ben carson
Something about this doesn't sound right. Stop getting these black folks who are so far from the norm to discuss the inner cities and low income neighborhoods and bring in actual community leaders who know what's going on in those areas.
Steve been talking about this for 15+ years on his radio show. Just like Jim Brown hasbeen putting in work for 40+ years, and multiple others who have met with Trump but then were shunned off as ? . What makes a "community leader"? Because for the last 50 years most have been too busy kissing Democrat ass.
What kills me is that both Obama and Trump's teams set this up and people still just looking to tear another black celeb down. No one says ? when Gore, Dicaprio, Gates, Musk meet with Trump. Why is it ok for white people to talk to the President about things to help their causes....but black people can do the same. Are we suppose to sit back for 4 years and watching funds go everywhere else? Everyone is lobbying for ? , ? , latinos, muslims, whites, but we have to sit on our hands...
hmmmm lets see
Al Gore , Elon Musk , Bill Gates & Silicon Valley CEOs.
vs
Steve Harvey ,Ben Carson,Don King, Kanye West & Jim Brown.
i'm pretty sure there are better well informed black intellectuals you can speak to about how to tackle social issues in inner city neighbourhoods
Lasttime i checked all those white dudes werent used as photo ops. If you cant see there is a far more sinister agenda i cant help you there buddy.
You're cherry picking people since I didn't name Don King or Kanye in my post, while you took Dicaprio out.
And I don't disagree that its important to get more interaction with intellectuals from our communities but.....that's a 2-way street, and goes to my central point which is that we should be encouraging MORE contact, not less. Going at Harvey who supported Clinton and was urged to meet with Trump by Obama's transition team makes no sense.
You can't call out people for meeting trump, and then say Trump isn't meeting anyone. And again, we can afford 4 more years of being ignored while every other group gets influence. -
Props ad respect to DL. like we suppose to jus forget all the ? Trump DID AND SAID to get where he is. ? that! ? Trump and everything he loves. On ? !!
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Over the next decade, as Donald J. Trump assumed an increasingly prominent role in the business, the company’s practice of turning away potential black tenants was painstakingly documented by activists and organizations that viewed equal housing as the next frontier in the civil rights struggle.
The Justice Department undertook its own investigation and, in 1973, sued Trump Management for discriminating against blacks. Both Fred Trump, the company’s chairman, and Donald Trump, its president, were named as defendants. It was front-page news, and for Donald, amounted to his debut in the public eye.
“Absolutely ridiculous,” he was quoted as saying of the government’s allegations.
Looking back, Mr. Trump’s response to the lawsuit can be seen as presaging his handling of subsequent challenges, in business and in politics. Rather than quietly trying to settle — as another New York developer had done a couple of years earlier — he turned the lawsuit into a protracted battle, complete with angry denials, character assassination, charges that the government was trying to force him to rent to “welfare recipients” and a $100 million countersuit accusing the Justice Department of defamation.
When it was over, Mr. Trump declared victory, emphasizing that the consent decree he ultimately signed did not include an admission of guilt.
But an investigation by The New York Times — drawing on decades-old files from the New York City Commission on Human Rights, internal Justice Department records, court documents and interviews with tenants, civil rights activists and prosecutors — uncovered a long history of racial bias at his family’s properties, in New York and beyond.
More at the link
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html?_r=0 -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
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blue_london wrote: »LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Lol speechless
what do you want me to say???? It's the truth.
TRUMP RENTS to rich white people that's his target demographic. That demographic like it or not does not want to live next to black people. So for a business like the one trump ran the incentive to rent to black people is very ? low. -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
what about the General who is being relieved of his duties during the inauguration? he helped set up security all these months, highly respected and awarded man of honor... being released, by the Trump administration
what did he lower? -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
what about the General who is being relieved of his duties during the inauguration? he helped set up security all these months, highly respected and awarded man of honor... being released, by the Trump administration
what did he lower?
I DON'T KNOW WHY TRUMP DID THAT BUT I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT NOW WAS I ??? -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that. -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society. -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society.
Then, considering he will be running a country that has benefited economically from racism and white supremacy, and told us what a great job he will do bc of his business ethics, can we assume that he will continue to undermine black people/minorities for the sake of the bottom line and growing the economy? -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society.
Then, considering he will be running a country that has benefited economically from racism and white supremacy, and told us what a great job he will do bc of his business ethics, can we assume that he will continue to undermine black people/minorities for the sake of the bottom line and growing the economy?
YOU CANNOT GROW THE MODERN AMERICAN ECONOMY AND DO THAT. How exactly do you think he is going to specifically target and undermine the black community???? The only way to undermine the black community would be by initiating race based policies....... and he alone does not have the power to do that. -
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LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society.
Then, considering he will be running a country that has benefited economically from racism and white supremacy, and told us what a great job he will do bc of his business ethics, can we assume that he will continue to undermine black people/minorities for the sake of the bottom line and growing the economy?
YOU CANNOT GROW THE MODERN AMERICAN ECONOMY AND DO THAT. How exactly do you think he is going to specifically target and undermine the black community???? The only way to undermine the black community would be by initiating race based policies....... and he alone does not have the power to do that.
It still exists in practice, not by name. Like for example red lining in the 20s, outlawed in the 50s or 60s, but can still be done unpunished if its not written in policy and if there is no proof (some companies still get sued for it). What he was doing by not renting to blacks is basically red lining, which was already outlawed when that situation took place.
And youre right, he alone doesnt have the power to do that, but most of his cabinet is highly questionable as far as racism goes, and KKK supports him, Richard Spencer, etc.
With Republicans holding all the seats, the cards are all in his favor. -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society.
Then, considering he will be running a country that has benefited economically from racism and white supremacy, and told us what a great job he will do bc of his business ethics, can we assume that he will continue to undermine black people/minorities for the sake of the bottom line and growing the economy?
YOU CANNOT GROW THE MODERN AMERICAN ECONOMY AND DO THAT. How exactly do you think he is going to specifically target and undermine the black community???? The only way to undermine the black community would be by initiating race based policies....... and he alone does not have the power to do that.
It still exists in practice, not by name. Like for example red lining in the 20s, outlawed in the 50s or 60s, but can still be done unpunished if its not written in policy and if there is no proof (some companies still get sued for it). What he was doing by not renting to blacks is basically red lining, which was already outlawed when that situation took place.
And youre right, he alone doesnt have the power to do that, but most of his cabinet is highly questionable as far as racism goes, and KKK supports him, Richard Spencer, etc.
With Republicans holding all the seats, the cards are all in his favor.
That is true but you wanted to know if trump could do all those things and the answer is NO..... OTHER politicians in local jurisdictions may put in place polices that make the red-lining of certain communities possible but the president does not get involved in such local matters.
As for what private corporations do??? my position is as it has always, been namely that they should be allowed to do whatever the ? want to do as long as they don't violate individual rights, and the government should not be forcing private organizations to rent their places to people that they don't want to. -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
what about the General who is being relieved of his duties during the inauguration? he helped set up security all these months, highly respected and awarded man of honor... being released, by the Trump administration
what did he lower?
Cmon yall read read read. When u think u got all the facts, read more!
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Washington Post: Head of D.C. National Guard to be removed from post in middle of inauguration
By Peter Hermann, Aaron C. Davis
January 13, 2017 at 5:23 PMMilitary officials and Trump transition officials provided contradictory versions of the decision to replace Schwartz. As is customary for presidential appointees, the general submitted a letter of resignation to give the new administration a clean start.
Two military officials with knowledge of the situation said the Trump team decided to accept the resignation. A person close to the transition said transition officials wanted to keep Schwartz in the job for continuity, but the Army pushed to replace him.
Schwartz, who was appointed to head the Guard by President George W. Bush in 2008, maintained the position through President Obama’s two terms. He said his orders came from the Pentagon in the form of an email that names his interim successor, a brigadier general, who takes over at 12:01 p.m. next Friday. -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society.
Then, considering he will be running a country that has benefited economically from racism and white supremacy, and told us what a great job he will do bc of his business ethics, can we assume that he will continue to undermine black people/minorities for the sake of the bottom line and growing the economy?
YOU CANNOT GROW THE MODERN AMERICAN ECONOMY AND DO THAT. How exactly do you think he is going to specifically target and undermine the black community???? The only way to undermine the black community would be by initiating race based policies....... and he alone does not have the power to do that.
It still exists in practice, not by name. Like for example red lining in the 20s, outlawed in the 50s or 60s, but can still be done unpunished if its not written in policy and if there is no proof (some companies still get sued for it). What he was doing by not renting to blacks is basically red lining, which was already outlawed when that situation took place.
And youre right, he alone doesnt have the power to do that, but most of his cabinet is highly questionable as far as racism goes, and KKK supports him, Richard Spencer, etc.
With Republicans holding all the seats, the cards are all in his favor.
That is true but you wanted to know if trump could do all those things and the answer is NO..... OTHER politicians in local jurisdictions may put in place polices that make the red-lining of certain communities possible but the president does not get involved in such local matters.
As for what private corporations do??? my position is as it has always, been namely that they should be allowed to do whatever the ? want to do as long as they don't violate individual rights, and the government should not be forcing private organizations to rent their places to people that they don't want to.
I dont disagree with this specific post just the fact that, even if Trump isnt racist, many racists are feeling inspired and empowered by him. You can see how that might have a trickle down effect in politics and society right? It is possible to take a step back as far as civil rights movement goes.
My original problem was u saying: "because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice."
^^^should we be okay with our president being willing to undermine a group of citizens for some monetary benefit and/or should we just assume he will be a different man now that hes attained more power? -
LOOK the reality of the situation is black people lower the property value so that's some people don't want to rent to us..... now this maybe racist cold hearted mean and wrong but from a totally business perspective it makes sense and that's why trump probably did it.
because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice.
Based on your argument hes at worst a racist, at best hes perpetuating systemic racism.
Theres no justification for that.
No one is justifying it, but the reality is what it is. Business people are about making money and as a result they may perpetuate racism but that doesn't always mean that they are personally racist they are just willing to profit from the inherent racism in society.
Then, considering he will be running a country that has benefited economically from racism and white supremacy, and told us what a great job he will do bc of his business ethics, can we assume that he will continue to undermine black people/minorities for the sake of the bottom line and growing the economy?
YOU CANNOT GROW THE MODERN AMERICAN ECONOMY AND DO THAT. How exactly do you think he is going to specifically target and undermine the black community???? The only way to undermine the black community would be by initiating race based policies....... and he alone does not have the power to do that.
It still exists in practice, not by name. Like for example red lining in the 20s, outlawed in the 50s or 60s, but can still be done unpunished if its not written in policy and if there is no proof (some companies still get sued for it). What he was doing by not renting to blacks is basically red lining, which was already outlawed when that situation took place.
And youre right, he alone doesnt have the power to do that, but most of his cabinet is highly questionable as far as racism goes, and KKK supports him, Richard Spencer, etc.
With Republicans holding all the seats, the cards are all in his favor.
That is true but you wanted to know if trump could do all those things and the answer is NO..... OTHER politicians in local jurisdictions may put in place polices that make the red-lining of certain communities possible but the president does not get involved in such local matters.
As for what private corporations do??? my position is as it has always, been namely that they should be allowed to do whatever the ? want to do as long as they don't violate individual rights, and the government should not be forcing private organizations to rent their places to people that they don't want to.
I dont disagree with this specific post just the fact that, even if Trump isnt racist, many racists are feeling inspired and empowered by him. You can see how that might have a trickle down effect in politics and society right? It is possible to take a step back as far as civil rights movement goes.
My original problem was u saying: "because ultimately businessmen care about the bottom line profit and not being nice."
^^^should we be okay with our president being willing to undermine a group of citizens for some monetary benefit and/or should we just assume he will be a different man now that hes attained more power?
ATTEMPTING to run a nation like a business is clearly problematic............ luckily for us it cannot really be done so the worry that trump is going to run america like a business is a non factor and should not worry anyone because he literally cannot do it unless he becomes a dictator. -
As for racist being inspired by trump sadly it seems like a case of people being divorced from reality. it's like dating a girl and loving your idea of her and not the person she really is.
Trump is not the redneck ? a ? racist that some white supporters want him to be and sooner rather than later they will realize it. -
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Trump gonna have the worst approval rating of all time, ? his ass already half way there
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Tap dancing in here. Justifying racism for profit lol