People Say Indie>>>Major But Lets Look At The Videos
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Internet killed the video star
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JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Nah...OverDoz and other independent artists have made some of the dopest videos.
Peep this,
https://youtu.be/wbzeqFcpGQQ
This Video is one of the best I've seen...independent director also. The Group is signed now...but not at the time this video and some of their other videos were shot
That video was dope, but it wasn't cheap. It must have taken at least a week (five, eight hour days) to shoot all that footage. They used make up and color design. Now compare that to the Young M.A. video in my O/P.
Thats my point, the Young M.A. video looks so low budget that its pointless. Independent artists should stop shooting low budget videos and uploading them to Youtube. It cheapens the song and makes themselves look bad. -
Them videos that was on bet uncut was amateur as ? and still was the best videos ever. Which major labels videos did you stay up till 3am to watch? I rest my case
BET uncut>>>>videos made by major labels -
Someone should start a BET uncut appreciation thread
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Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Them videos that was on bet uncut was amateur as ? and still was the best videos ever. Which major labels videos did you stay up till 3am to watch? I rest my case
BET uncut>>>>videos made by major labels
? we wanted to see ? shakin, that's why -
1. who gives a ? about signing to a major just to get(maybe) a better music video budget in 2017?
2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ak_oBeC-I
^I believe they did this video as indie artist -
What was juveniles video budget for Ha?
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lol ? waited until 3 am to bust the lotion out
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power_wisdom wrote: »This video cost no more than 10k
https://youtu.be/52bvrfqSKl4
And this video cost well under 5k facts
https://youtu.be/kZoOwN-sG78.
You kinda proved my point.
The first video was somewhat low budget except for the helicopter shots. You can tell whoever made it used an expensive camera, but some of the shots were pointless and low budget. I'd give it a C+
The second video was much better and I'd wager that it cost more than 5K, not because there were special effects and a lot going on, rather, because it was simple yet perfect. All of the shots in the second video were perfect. Whoever directed that second video had an eye for photography. Also, the colors and make up were professionally done. I'd give it a B+
Both videos were better than the Young M.A. video but I still maintain that the Bone Crusher video was better than both of the videos you posted.
And neither video was as good as Michael Jackson's Billie Jean video. Billie Jean gets an A+
Billie Jean - Michael Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y
The second video was by a good friend of mine. He paid way less than 5k for it. Trust me. Which prove my point. People charge what they want, but if you have the know how and the equipment and can make a video that can get mtv jams ( Bet jam) play for under 2k. -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Someone should start a BET uncut appreciation thread
inb4
I'm tryin to kick it tonight. So baby tell me what that thang smell like. lol -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Someone should start a BET uncut appreciation thread
inb4
I'm tryin to kick it tonight. So baby tell me what that thang smell like. lol
One of the best Rap hooks of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfjiwv41kc -
power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »This video cost no more than 10khttps://youtu.be/52bvrfqSKl4
And this video cost well under 5k factshttps://youtu.be/kZoOwN-sG78.
You kinda proved my point.
The first video was somewhat low budget except for the helicopter shots. You can tell whoever made it used an expensive camera, but some of the shots were pointless and low budget. I'd give it a C+
The second video was much better and I'd wager that it cost more than 5K, not because there were special effects and a lot going on, rather, because it was simple yet perfect. All of the shots in the second video were perfect. Whoever directed that second video had an eye for photography. Also, the colors and make up were professionally done. I'd give it a B+
Both videos were better than the Young M.A. video but I still maintain that the Bone Crusher video was better than both of the videos you posted.
And neither video was as good as Michael Jackson's Billie Jean video. Billie Jean gets an A+
Billie Jean - Michael Jacksonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y
The second video was by a good friend of mine. He paid way less than 5k for it. Trust me. Which prove my point. People charge what they want, but if you have the know how and the equipment and can make a video that can get mtv jams ( Bet jam) play for under 2k.
He might have paid less than 5K to produce it but he probably charged the artist >5K. And if he didn't he should have. That second video is worth 10-15K imo.
Are you guys playing dumb or do you agree with me? Bigger budget videos are just better than low budget videos.
A professionally made video with professional lighting and set design, color coordination, special effects, etc. will stand the test of time. Those low budget videos with just a camcorder and a rapper standing in front of the projects with his homies is corny. Anybody on the IC could make a low budget video and upload it and thats what people are doing nowadays. Its been going on for about a decade now, maybe longer.
When I check for videos on Youtube I notice the difference. There's a lot of videos that are clear because they used a high budget camera, but the composition of the shots, the colors, the background and all of the details are lacking.
I think an independent artist should make the biggest budget video he can afford, not the cheapest video he can possibly make. -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Someone should start a BET uncut appreciation thread
inb4
I'm tryin to kick it tonight. So baby tell me what that thang smell like. lol
One of the best Rap hooks of all time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfjiwv41kc
This video is 10X better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4W8hdegL3g -
I could give 0 ? about video quality making or breaking a song.
Everybody think differently and some ppl do appreciate that ? so I get it. Like ppl who are movie buffs and appreciate all that cinematic ? . I ain't knocking it but I don't get off on it. I'll see that it's dope but, okay it was dope, and.....
I rather get more money and less fame with lower video quality than opposite. -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Someone should start a BET uncut appreciation thread
inb4
I'm tryin to kick it tonight. So baby tell me what that thang smell like. lol
One of the best Rap hooks of all time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfjiwv41kc
Ironically that video prolly cost them $319
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Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Someone should start a BET uncut appreciation thread
inb4
I'm tryin to kick it tonight. So baby tell me what that thang smell like. lol
One of the best Rap hooks of all time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfjiwv41kc
That video proves my point.
Its so low budget that you can't take it seriously. Nobody would check for anything else they've ever done. -
power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »This video cost no more than 10khttps://youtu.be/52bvrfqSKl4
And this video cost well under 5k factshttps://youtu.be/kZoOwN-sG78.
You kinda proved my point.
The first video was somewhat low budget except for the helicopter shots. You can tell whoever made it used an expensive camera, but some of the shots were pointless and low budget. I'd give it a C+
The second video was much better and I'd wager that it cost more than 5K, not because there were special effects and a lot going on, rather, because it was simple yet perfect. All of the shots in the second video were perfect. Whoever directed that second video had an eye for photography. Also, the colors and make up were professionally done. I'd give it a B+
Both videos were better than the Young M.A. video but I still maintain that the Bone Crusher video was better than both of the videos you posted.
And neither video was as good as Michael Jackson's Billie Jean video. Billie Jean gets an A+
Billie Jean - Michael Jacksonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y
The second video was by a good friend of mine. He paid way less than 5k for it. Trust me. Which prove my point. People charge what they want, but if you have the know how and the equipment and can make a video that can get mtv jams ( Bet jam) play for under 2k.
He might have paid less than 5K to produce it but he probably charged the artist >5K. And if he didn't he should have. That second video is worth 10-15K imo.
Are you guys playing dumb or do you agree with me? Bigger budget videos are just better than low budget videos.
A professionally made video with professional lighting and set design, color coordination, special effects, etc. will stand the test of time. Those low budget videos with just a camcorder and a rapper standing in front of the projects with his homies is corny. Anybody on the IC could make a low budget video and upload it and thats what people are doing nowadays. Its been going on for about a decade now, maybe longer.
When I check for videos on Youtube I notice the difference. There's a lot of videos that are clear because they used a high budget camera, but the composition of the shots, the colors, the background and all of the details are lacking.
I think an independent artist should make the biggest budget video he can afford, not the cheapest video he can possibly make.
My friend is the artist. He paid well under 5k. You charge what you want. It's your equipment. Most companies start off trying to get their name out their and building their brand. They might do a video on the low because the think the artist have talent. I' m in the business. Everything is negotiable. If you have a 20k camera and no one knows you, and you don't have a big profolio or name, who going pay you 20k for a video. You not going put a ? video out with your name on it if you have the capability to make a better piece of work. You know why? Cause your reputation is all you have in the business. Most companies always looking for work. No one going do subpar work cause its a low budget shoot if they can do better. -
power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »This video cost no more than 10khttps://youtu.be/52bvrfqSKl4
And this video cost well under 5k factshttps://youtu.be/kZoOwN-sG78.
You kinda proved my point.
The first video was somewhat low budget except for the helicopter shots. You can tell whoever made it used an expensive camera, but some of the shots were pointless and low budget. I'd give it a C+
The second video was much better and I'd wager that it cost more than 5K, not because there were special effects and a lot going on, rather, because it was simple yet perfect. All of the shots in the second video were perfect. Whoever directed that second video had an eye for photography. Also, the colors and make up were professionally done. I'd give it a B+
Both videos were better than the Young M.A. video but I still maintain that the Bone Crusher video was better than both of the videos you posted.
And neither video was as good as Michael Jackson's Billie Jean video. Billie Jean gets an A+
Billie Jean - Michael Jacksonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y
The second video was by a good friend of mine. He paid way less than 5k for it. Trust me. Which prove my point. People charge what they want, but if you have the know how and the equipment and can make a video that can get mtv jams ( Bet jam) play for under 2k.
He might have paid less than 5K to produce it but he probably charged the artist >5K. And if he didn't he should have. That second video is worth 10-15K imo.
Are you guys playing dumb or do you agree with me? Bigger budget videos are just better than low budget videos.
A professionally made video with professional lighting and set design, color coordination, special effects, etc. will stand the test of time. Those low budget videos with just a camcorder and a rapper standing in front of the projects with his homies is corny. Anybody on the IC could make a low budget video and upload it and thats what people are doing nowadays. Its been going on for about a decade now, maybe longer.
When I check for videos on Youtube I notice the difference. There's a lot of videos that are clear because they used a high budget camera, but the composition of the shots, the colors, the background and all of the details are lacking.
I think an independent artist should make the biggest budget video he can afford, not the cheapest video he can possibly make.
My friend is the artist. He paid well under 5k. You charge what you want. It's your equipment. Most companies start off trying to get their name out their and building their brand. They might do a video on the low because the think the artist have talent. I' m in the business. Everything is negotiable. If you have a 20k camera and no one knows you, and you don't have a big profolio or name, who going pay you 20k for a video. You not going put a ? video out with your name on it if you have the capability to make a better piece of work. You know why? Cause your reputation is all you have in the business. Most companies always looking for work. No one going do subpar work cause its a low budget shoot if they can do better.
Good point.
If you were going to spend 5K on a video would you hire your friend or whoever shot that Young M.A. video? -
power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »This video cost no more than 10khttps://youtu.be/52bvrfqSKl4
And this video cost well under 5k factshttps://youtu.be/kZoOwN-sG78.
You kinda proved my point.
The first video was somewhat low budget except for the helicopter shots. You can tell whoever made it used an expensive camera, but some of the shots were pointless and low budget. I'd give it a C+
The second video was much better and I'd wager that it cost more than 5K, not because there were special effects and a lot going on, rather, because it was simple yet perfect. All of the shots in the second video were perfect. Whoever directed that second video had an eye for photography. Also, the colors and make up were professionally done. I'd give it a B+
Both videos were better than the Young M.A. video but I still maintain that the Bone Crusher video was better than both of the videos you posted.
And neither video was as good as Michael Jackson's Billie Jean video. Billie Jean gets an A+
Billie Jean - Michael Jacksonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y
The second video was by a good friend of mine. He paid way less than 5k for it. Trust me. Which prove my point. People charge what they want, but if you have the know how and the equipment and can make a video that can get mtv jams ( Bet jam) play for under 2k.
He might have paid less than 5K to produce it but he probably charged the artist >5K. And if he didn't he should have. That second video is worth 10-15K imo.
Are you guys playing dumb or do you agree with me? Bigger budget videos are just better than low budget videos.
A professionally made video with professional lighting and set design, color coordination, special effects, etc. will stand the test of time. Those low budget videos with just a camcorder and a rapper standing in front of the projects with his homies is corny. Anybody on the IC could make a low budget video and upload it and thats what people are doing nowadays. Its been going on for about a decade now, maybe longer.
When I check for videos on Youtube I notice the difference. There's a lot of videos that are clear because they used a high budget camera, but the composition of the shots, the colors, the background and all of the details are lacking.
I think an independent artist should make the biggest budget video he can afford, not the cheapest video he can possibly make.
My friend is the artist. He paid well under 5k. You charge what you want. It's your equipment. Most companies start off trying to get their name out their and building their brand. They might do a video on the low because the think the artist have talent. I' m in the business. Everything is negotiable. If you have a 20k camera and no one knows you, and you don't have a big profolio or name, who going pay you 20k for a video. You not going put a ? video out with your name on it if you have the capability to make a better piece of work. You know why? Cause your reputation is all you have in the business. Most companies always looking for work. No one going do subpar work cause its a low budget shoot if they can do better.
Good point.
If you were going to spend 5K on a video would you hire your friend or whoever shot that Young M.A. video?
My friend is the artist. But who ever had the best profolio and who could work with my budget. If I have 500 dollars, the I know what I can get. It's also about networking. The guy who shot Young ma video then could had bought better equipment and now shooting better videos. But he worked with her and she might work with him again or send more business his way, if he or she still in the business. The more you shoot and edited, the better you get in most cases. -
power_wisdom wrote: »An independent can hire a professional who use a digital camera and not film to make a video that cheaper. Fight club for example by the Migos was made by an independent company.
But thats not what they do. They get one of their homies to shoot the video and 9 times out of 10 it looks low budget.
I took a few video classes and there's a lot that goes into lighting, color, make up, set design, costume design, etc. that makes the difference between a low budget video and a high budget video.
In particular, the videographer needs to know what colors the rapper will be wearing in the video and design the set accordingly. Thats part of the reason that Bone Crusher video looks so good, because they're wearing bright colors.
Did you take the video class around the time Billie Jean came out? -
power_wisdom wrote: »An independent can hire a professional who use a digital camera and not film to make a video that cheaper. Fight club for example by the Migos was made by an independent company.
But thats not what they do. They get one of their homies to shoot the video and 9 times out of 10 it looks low budget.
I took a few video classes and there's a lot that goes into lighting, color, make up, set design, costume design, etc. that makes the difference between a low budget video and a high budget video.
In particular, the videographer needs to know what colors the rapper will be wearing in the video and design the set accordingly. Thats part of the reason that Bone Crusher video looks so good, because they're wearing bright colors.
Did you take the video class around the time Billie Jean came out?
I was 9 years old when the Billie Jean video came out, but I maintain that its better than 99% of the videos that have been posted in the Reason over the past week. -
Everybody says that indie is the way to go because you get more royalties. An artist signed to a major might get $.25 per unit sold whereas an independent artist who presses his own CDs and sells them at shows might get $5 per CD after recoupable expenses. So in that scenario the independent artist wins.
But there's something that a major label can do that you can't do yourself, namely music videos.
Anybody can get a camcorder and go out on the street with his homies and shoot a video, then go home and edit it and upload it to Youtube. But a major label can make a high budget video with professional lighting, professional models, a set designer, costume design, professional lighting and the whole 9 yards.
Here's an old video I came across last night. It occurred to me that this video must have been made by a professional video company. This isn't some independent rapper with a camcorder
Never Scared - Bone Crusher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryIjCkw3Jfg
Here's a Young M.A. video called Body Bag. This isn't to throw any shade at Young M.A. I actually like the song but the video is lacking. I could post a gang of low budget videos but this is one that came to mind.
Body Bag - Young M.A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lbcxekHrNs
My point is that major labels can make better videos than independent artists. And the Bone Crusher Video is 15 years old. They were using 15 year old technology but its still miles ahead of the Young M.A. video.
Your thoughts?
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? you have a one hot thread every ten attempt average #woatthreadmaker
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Lemme just nip this in the butt. Ur saying just because a major can make a high quality video (that'll come out my pay anyway) I should sign to them. Instead of just getting a indie video guy pay him $100 and shot a video. An what do u mean by quality do u mean how clear it is. Cuz I can post plenty of clear indie videos. Besides indie is more authentic I rather get on fb and say imma shot a video and have 30 of my friends show up and turn up for free. Than pay some professionals to pretend like they fck with me.
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Dude named one of the last reasons any artist in 2017 should give a ? about a major label.
