WWE PPV thread - WWE Clash of Champions [AJ Styles vs. Jinder Mahal] - Dec. 17
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Hope the Hardyz stick around for a while
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It's crazy how Wrestling is script but Taker retiring has most of us feeling someway.
Taker the GOAT. -
I always thought Bearer (if alive) and Kane would induct Taker but Vince might be the one to do so
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all hail Roman Reigns!
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Man seeing him trying to get up and couldn't killed me so sad
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »Man seeing him trying to get up and couldn't killed me so sad
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We all knew it was coming...still got us in our feelings
Roman was the perfect pick...again say what you want...but Roman putting Taker down is a big ass deal not just to us...but backstage too...has a lot less to do with selling merch and being pushed to the moon like ppl are arguing.
And everyone watching the match can clearly see the botches were on Taker and not Roman...as a matter fact Roman tried to save both spots by himself...
Anywho...that was a great Mania and Im glad I got to see Takers last match.
And personally I think the biz...the crowds...everythinh would be better if ? quit worrying about what happens behind the curtain bruh. Just let the performers put on the show and judge that. All this meta fandom is wack af. Thats why aint no heels and faces no more.
HHH was right...dont need to "officialy" turn Roman heel when the crowd already has.
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Woulda been better if he had that "smark tears" mug lol
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Joker_De_La_Lover wrote: »I wish a chant of this is stupid would have happened during that ?
A u ? up chant would've been more appropriate -
Excellent show. B+
Low points:
---Wyatt vs Orton was a MAJOR disappointment. It was just a terrible match, much too slow and a bad finish. HHH or Undertaker working slow is fine because they sell alot and it works in their matches but Orton...dude. i didn't mind the special effects, if it was only done once it would have been better though.
----Ending of the mixed tag/proposal (like homie said this isn't for the guys) but it still came off kinda phony. Miz & Maryse looked like goofs too. They got treated like Carmella and Ellsworth. No need for that.
----Andre the Giant MBR. Mojo Rawley. C'mon bruh. I'm glad the crowd was into it though.
The meh points:
---- Owens vs Jericho, it was what I figured it was going to be. Like the finish though.
----Ambrose vs Corbin. Ambrose has been a wet blanket for months now. This match should have been better but came off like a Smackdown main event.
----Mixed Tag Match. The build was the best on the card but the match itself was an expected MEH affair.
----Ladder Match. The Hardys definitely spiked interest. They spiked it so much I don't remember much of ? from the actual match.
----Women's match (RAW). Just...not really much of anything there. Weird to see Sasha get beat by a turnbuckle. Weird to see Charlotte get beat by an elbow drop...just weird in general.
----Women's match (SD) Rushed, told no story really but not bad.
----Entrances (most of the men). Rollins entrance was weird, real fire becoming LED fire and all that. HHH tricycle could have been cooler without the police ? .
High Points:
----Hardys. Obviously.
----Jeff Hardy Swanton bruh is 40, was in a ladder match the day before and still did a 20 ft ladder spot. Tremendous.
----Undertaker' retirement. Obviously.
----AJ/Shane. Match of the night. Shane wrestled a legit match, proving YET AGAIN that dude is an underrated performer. His offense consisted mostly of counters of AJ's offense but they were done smoothly.
----Shane's Shooting Star Press and Coast 2 Coast. Dude is above 45 and still got ups. He's a freak of nature. If his last name wasn't McMahon he'd probably get more respect for his talent.
----Neville vs Aries. Close second for MOTN. Good storytelling with the finish. I think Aries should have won but it was still great.
----Stephanie goes though a table. Unexpected. She wasn't a big part of the build so I didn't expect her to be a big part of the match and yet she was.
----Women's Entrances. The RAW Women's match had dooooope entrances. Naomi and Alexa had dope entrances too.
----Goldberg vs Lesnar. 4 moves in the whole match but it was still hype because those moves are ? OVER!
----Storytelling. Undertaker vs Roman wasn't a match, it was the last gunslinger being put down. They used kick outs as hope spots for Christ's sake. Roman did a decent job of being disrespectful and acting heelish while Undertaker is surprisingly excellent as a babyface in peril. HHH/Rollins was a match and while a little slow in some spaces it told a great story.
----The stage. Beautiful stage that lit up great at night. It gave an amusement park feel.
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Will probably have to watch the ladder match again without marking out to get a good sense of how the match was but the Hardys being there made it so surreal that the match was a blur to me.
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Hardyz last night is auto-one of greatest Wrestlemania moments/returns ever. Super pumped I got to see it in person.
The misdirect with the New Day coming out in their gear was perfect too. Never seen so many grown men jumping around, screaming like little girls. And yes I was one of them. -
Yo what if undertaker retired the deadman and big evil taker comes out on raw. Lol
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How much more impact would the underakers retirement have been if Roman broke the streak last night?
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Joker_De_La_Lover wrote: »How much more impact would the underakers retirement have been if Roman broke the streak last night?
I think it would've been better. That's why a part of me don't understand the streak being broken at WM30. He comes back and wins against Bray at WM31 then against Shane at WM32?! Why not, that one loss on his record being his final match. But then again we don't know the whole truth about anything going on backstage because we are not creative, we are just fans. -
To place the hate on Reigns is dumb. He doesn't deserve it. Most likely Vince and Undertaker had a talk about it and they chose Reigns. What's Reigns supposed to do, say no to that opportunity?
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Joker_De_La_Lover wrote: »To place the hate on Reigns is dumb. He doesn't deserve it. Most likely Vince and Undertaker had a talk about it and they chose Reigns. What's Reigns supposed to do, say no to that opportunity?
Too much logic in this post man
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Joker_De_La_Lover wrote: »To place the hate on Reigns is dumb. He doesn't deserve it. Most likely Vince and Undertaker had a talk about it and they chose Reigns. What's Reigns supposed to do, say no to that opportunity?
Yea bruh. You know Taker definitely signed off on this one. Last match too. Taker and Vince (probably HHH) discussed about it and felt Reigns was the best choice. I can understand ppl' point on AJ Styles or Cena but this who WWE has been pushing for the past couple of years. He is supposed to be the face of the company for the next several years so who else would you want to end Taker's career...none other than him. Rather you hate it or not.
Ric chose Shawn
Shawn chose Taker
So it's obvious especially with his clout within the company that Taker chose Reigns.
But ? ....you never know bruh. -
Just got home from orlando. ? was FIRE!!!! I recommend y'all go to a mania or a big 4 (ok 3) ppv if your lifetime
cruiserweight title match was good. Most though Aires would win
Battle royal: crowd was mad when bis show, braun and sami got eliminated. They initially boo'd ground but cheered when we got in the rain and jinder. Mojo got a decent pop when he won
Shane and AJ was great. Crowd was more into AJ, as was I. lost it when shane missed the shooting star press and jumped thru the table
KO/Y2J was great. Crowd loved when owens put his finger on the ropes to break up the pinfall.
the fatal 4 way women match was good. People were shocked when sasha was eliminated since the turnbuckle padding wasn't completely off when she hit it. They did may Nia look strong when she was eliminated. No shock when Bayley won.
When new day came out and said there was gonna be a 4th team added, the crowd knew. but DAMN that pop was loud. I lost it. It was epic and that match was fantastic. No way the hardys are in that match and lose. Having them win was a no brainer
dudes were mad at the cena/miz mixed match, myself included. when cena went to propose, I didn't even bother stand or watch the big screens. Girls telling me in the crown to "show respect" and stand. FOH ? . Hated that match and the ending was stupid (FYI cena an nikki were the only ones who actually went up the ramp after their match. everyone else started to cup and when they eat to commercial, went back down and got to the back some other way)
Rollins/HHH was great. HHH being 47 and looking like that is impressive. Loved the spot when steph went thru the table. Crowd popped for the phoenix splash.
Orion/Wyatt was such a disappointment. Most didn't expect it to end the way it did. No real reaction after orton won. The visuals during the match were cool though
Brock/goldberg was perfect for the time it was given. Very anti Goldgerg crowd. Everyone counted along with the suplexes and loved then Paul introduced brock Ending was great and hope brock stays and actually defends the title often.
Six pack challenges was ok. Naomi got a warm reception from her hometown.
Main event: the last 10 minutes were painful. I heard grown men getting in their feelings cause the know roman was gonna win. from the botched hells gate to the struggled last ride to the botched tombstone attempts, it was time. I did like taker kicking out of multiple spears and him telling roman he doesn't have the ? to finish him off. Crowd hated roman.
when pitbull performed, i hit the bathroom like most did.
All in all, it was a fun experience. Will do it again someday. -
? what is wrestlemania gonna be like next year without the pageantry of an undertaker entrance. Never to hear that gong again. Damn man this sucks. Wish I went this year
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The only issue I have w Taker/Reigns is that Reigns isn't experienced enough to carry Taker. He needed that. That's why this match seemed so weak.
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illestni99ainne wrote: »? what is wrestlemania gonna be like next year without the pageantry of an undertaker entrance. Never to hear that gong again. Damn man this sucks. Wish I went this year
He will do it one last time for the hall of fame next year
and Ill be there. Its in New Orleans next year...Im def going...already saving up for it
