NC Law Says That Women Cannot Back Out of Sex Once Consent Is Given
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MsSouthern wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »
medically speaking we have some level of control, but we're not in full control, no man is. I may not be attracted to big ass chicks, but a bruh's ? just might get hard if she's topless and has an amazing set of ? on display and I have zero control over that. Likewise, a chick could be completely heterosexual, but could run across a porn flick of two chicks eatin' each other out and her ? gets wet.konceptjones wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »
medically speaking we have some level of control, but we're not in full control, no man is. I may not be attracted to big ass chicks, but a bruh's ? just might get hard if she's topless and has an amazing set of ? on display and I have zero control over that. Likewise, a chick could be completely heterosexual, but could run across a porn flick of two chicks eatin' each other out and her ? gets wet.
Right ....no one has complete control
My point was if a woman is being ? and still gets wet ... doesn't mean she's enjoying it
his point was the often used "if a mans ? gets hard he's not being ? , he's giving consent otherwise his ? wouldn't get hard" defense that feminists use to say that a man cannot be ? .
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/columns/the-sexist/blog/13118551/male-? -victims-and-the-? -problem...Male victims/survivors are often ashamed and confused when their body responds during an assault. Frequently, men who are sexually assaulted or ? have an involuntary or forced ? or ? . Also, muscles in the ? often relax when a man is ? . This does not mean that the survivor wanted to be ? or sexually assaulted. Involuntary erections and ejaculations are normal reactions to physical stimulation even when sex is non-consensual.
As the National Center for Victims of Crime notes, male victims of ? often blame themselves for their "involuntary physiological reaction" to a sexual assault. They, too, believe an ? automatically implies consent:
It is not uncommon for a male ? victim to blame himself for the ? , believing that he in some way gave permission to the ? (Brochman, 1991). Male ? victims suffer a similar fear that female ? victims face—-that people will believe the myth that they may have enjoyed being ? . Some men may believe they were not ? or that they gave consent because they became sexually aroused, had an ? , or ? during the sexual assault.... -
konceptjones wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »this can go either way.
If consent was given and the dude gets violent or tries to ? her in the ass when that clearly wasn't on the menu or was denied earlier or some other ? she didn't agree to there needs to be a way out for her.
If consent was given and mid-act she regrets it she shouldn't be able to cry "? " because clearly that's not what happened.
so in the middle of the act if a woman wants to stop and their wishes aren't honored by their sexual partner, said partner should only have to face consequences in extreme cases
is that what you're saying?
because I'm sure if consent was given to have vaginal sex and the dude gets violent or tries to ? a woman in the ass against her will, the woman regrets ever had having sex with bruh in the first place
Are you willing to concede wholeheartedly that a man that backs out of a sexual encounter only to have the woman continue was ? ? Let's say she was riding him and about to ? and dude said "stop, get off" and she doesn't until she gets hers is she then a ? ? The single biggest problem I have with people like you is that you refuse to hold women to the exact same standard you hold men to, but somehow you want "equality". Equality means you're held accountable for your actions just like any man would be and if you're giving head to some dude and he says "stop" and you don't you're a ? and deserve to go to prison and be registered as a sex offender.
lol @ "ppl like me"
but to question your question....
yes ...she is a ?
no means no
I say people like you because, historically, you have had a hard time with holding women accountable for the same things men are.
@Madame_CJSkywalker
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BOSSExcellence wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »Who is considering this a win ???
Rapists ...that's who
so a ? at a party drinkin wit dude.. kissin a ? all in the mouth slide off with him start ? and in the heat of passion says stop and the dude has the problem??!
not sayin he right but she wrong..
im havin a hard time givin a ? ..'she'll be alright..
be smarter next time..
Sounds like ? with a lot of poor judgments on both sides to me
Why can't he stop when she says no ?
See my example in my other post and let me know what you think ?
poor judgement on BOTH sides but only one life is ruined??
yeh thats fair..
like i said..
be smarter next time..
he aint drag her off the dance floor out the club and into some ? alley..
THATS ? .
Yes it is
But so is saying no and the man or woman keeps going to satisfy their sexual self
Look I have a son so I get it but no means no
And that's where I again ask why when she says no can't he stop ?
u have a son but not bothered by the fact men are not protected and often the victim of a one sided justice system..
funny all a ? gotta say is she was ? and ? is thrown in jail...
but then when they find out a ? is lyin nothin..
oh well..
nah..
i see nothin wrong wit this law..
a ? didnt force himself on or in her..
? deal wit it..
also u sayin u have a son is the equivalent to me havin a daughter..
im raisin mines to have common ? sense..
not walk around here helpless and hapless..
They can press charges on false ? allegations, they just don't sometimes but as we speak there's a woman who is being prosecuted right now for making a false ? allegation against 2 college students, one who lost his scholarship behind it... -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »Who is considering this a win ???
Rapists ...that's who
so a ? at a party drinkin wit dude.. kissin a ? all in the mouth slide off with him start ? and in the heat of passion says stop and the dude has the problem??!
not sayin he right but she wrong..
im havin a hard time givin a ? ..'she'll be alright..
be smarter next time..
Sounds like ? with a lot of poor judgments on both sides to me
Why can't he stop when she says no ?
See my example in my other post and let me know what you think ?
poor judgement on BOTH sides but only one life is ruined??
yeh thats fair..
like i said..
be smarter next time..
he aint drag her off the dance floor out the club and into some ? alley..
THATS ? .
Yes it is
But so is saying no and the man or woman keeps going to satisfy their sexual self
Look I have a son so I get it but no means no
And that's where I again ask why when she says no can't he stop ?
u have a son but not bothered by the fact men are not protected and often the victim of a one sided justice system..
funny all a ? gotta say is she was ? and ? is thrown in jail...
but then when they find out a ? is lyin nothin..
oh well..
nah..
i see nothin wrong wit this law..
a ? didnt force himself on or in her..
? deal wit it..
also u sayin u have a son is the equivalent to me havin a daughter..
im raisin mines to have common ? sense..
not walk around here helpless and hapless..
They can press charges on false ? allegations, they just don't sometimes but as we speak there's a woman who is being prosecuted right now for making a false ? allegation against 2 college students, one who lost his scholarship behind it...
don't forget the ? on the The Bachelor. Dude lost his job. -
konceptjones wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »this can go either way.
If consent was given and the dude gets violent or tries to ? her in the ass when that clearly wasn't on the menu or was denied earlier or some other ? she didn't agree to there needs to be a way out for her.
If consent was given and mid-act she regrets it she shouldn't be able to cry "? " because clearly that's not what happened.
so in the middle of the act if a woman wants to stop and their wishes aren't honored by their sexual partner, said partner should only have to face consequences in extreme cases
is that what you're saying?
because I'm sure if consent was given to have vaginal sex and the dude gets violent or tries to ? a woman in the ass against her will, the woman regrets ever had having sex with bruh in the first place
Are you willing to concede wholeheartedly that a man that backs out of a sexual encounter only to have the woman continue was ? ? Let's say she was riding him and about to ? and dude said "stop, get off" and she doesn't until she gets hers is she then a ? ? The single biggest problem I have with people like you is that you refuse to hold women to the exact same standard you hold men to, but somehow you want "equality". Equality means you're held accountable for your actions just like any man would be and if you're giving head to some dude and he says "stop" and you don't you're a ? and deserve to go to prison and be registered as a sex offender.
lol @ "ppl like me"
but to question your question....
yes ...she is a ?
no means no
I say people like you because, historically, you have had a hard time with holding women accountable for the same things men are.
@Madame_CJSkywalker
This makes no sense though because in this instance she is holding women accountable on the same level...so that "historically" ? is irrelevant when she is doing exactly what he wants her to do in terms of holding someone accountable. You can't operate under an assumption even if you've been given a response that goes against it. -
@rebootx1 ? walking a thin line w/ this discussion. You might want to be careful with how happy you are talking about how you'd ? somebody.
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »BrideofKilla wrote: »What if she didn't realize the d was wack until he got in it and she decides she doesn't want it anymore? Or he says some wild uncouth ? while ? talking? I think she should have the right to a change of heart.
Can men still keep it up when a woman is crying begging you to get off of her? Is there no off switch until completion?
Was gonna come say this lol. Neither party can plan for this so idk where the "make better decisions" part comes in...in THIS particular situation.
"ride it out" -
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BOSSExcellence wrote: »atribecalledgabi wrote: »BrideofKilla wrote: »What if she didn't realize the d was wack until he got in it and she decides she doesn't want it anymore? Or he says some wild uncouth ? while ? talking? I think she should have the right to a change of heart.
Can men still keep it up when a woman is crying begging you to get off of her? Is there no off switch until completion?
Was gonna come say this lol. Neither party can plan for this so idk where the "make better decisions" part comes in...in THIS particular situation.
"ride it out"
basically.
I've had a whoooooooooooole lot of wack ? in my lifetime. I just keep it going until I nut and never call her back unless the head was flames. Coupla times I had to fake bussin a nut 'cause the ? was just so bad I didn't think I was ever gonna buss one. Coupla grunts, 5 really hard thrusts, then collapse on her. Roll over take that empty condom off and flush it then deuces. -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »atribecalledgabi wrote: »BrideofKilla wrote: »What if she didn't realize the d was wack until he got in it and she decides she doesn't want it anymore? Or he says some wild uncouth ? while ? talking? I think she should have the right to a change of heart.
Can men still keep it up when a woman is crying begging you to get off of her? Is there no off switch until completion?
Was gonna come say this lol. Neither party can plan for this so idk where the "make better decisions" part comes in...in THIS particular situation.
"ride it out"
Nah cousin....if I tell a ? to wrap it up and he doing the exact same ? ...aint switch up the stroke or nothing....I'm looking around for anything to bop him over the head with lol.
Idk why some of yall acting brand new like social interactions are eternally binding. If I have a party at my house and invite you over only to find out you the typa person that puts your feet all over my coffee table and don't use coasters leaving rings all over my surfaces, don't throw your trash away, being rude to my other guests...just because I invited you over doesn't mean I can't kick you out.
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Whichever one of you ? catch that mystikal first.... You gotta make the thread. @BOSSExcellence gon bond you out.
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When a chick says stop, how much time should dude be given to pull out before it's considered "? "?
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Whichever one of you ? catch that mystikal first.... You gotta make the thread. @BOSSExcellence gon bond you out.
um, Mystikal forced a chick to blow him or he would turn her over to the cops for stealing $80K from dude by writing checks on his bank account.
That's very clearly ? . -
When a chick says stop, how much time should dude be given to pull out before it's considered "? "?
my guess is you're supposed to jump out the ? like you saw a giant roach crawling on the pillow. -
That is not ? since she consented. It is assault though.
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konceptjones wrote: »
Right.lol...that's the same amount of time she should be given to holla ? after the instant she engaged in what was considered consensual sex. -
konceptjones wrote: »Whichever one of you ? catch that mystikal first.... You gotta make the thread. @BOSSExcellence gon bond you out.
um, Mystikal forced a chick to blow him or he would turn her over to the cops for stealing $80K from dude by writing checks on his bank account.
That's very clearly ? .
Ain't nobody tryin to hear that ? sharif. You know what I meant. -
konceptjones wrote: »
Might as well cuz I'll just talk about wack ? until you go flaccid*.. -
BiblicalAtheist wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »
Might as well cuz I'll just talk about wack ? until you go flaccid*..
what if he's the type to get off on talking wack ? ? -
Doubt it
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This why ain't no ? on this site now, smh.
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Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »Y'all keep Saying regretfull sex
Do you think that's what women are saying when they tell you no ???
She later decided she just wasn't in to you ????
We are talking about being forced to have sex with someone or preform a sexual act they do not want to. Not she sobered up and took her beer goggles off and changed her mind
So what's your opinion on my example ... the man ending up in a situation where he says no but she finishes cause well he should have made better choices
For some reason I can't get anyone to respond ....only blaming women for their actions .
Men get ? too
I know it's taboo but doesn't mean they don't deserve the same protection under the law
No means no
But that was already on the table as part of this discussion, @MsSouthern .
Both scenarios have been illustrated. Yours as well as regret. We're all in agreement that if the parameters of the sexual encounter have changed and one party doesn't agree with it and it's forced on them, then it's ? ; no one is arguing against this point. What's being presented is the many instances of "regret ? " that happens so often where the woman changes her mind mid-act because she ain't feelin dude anymore, she sobered up a lil and he went from a 10 to a 4, or any other reason. Regret is not a reason to cry ? .
Bein real, there's been a few times I had ? sex, sobered up a bit and realized the chick wasn't what I remembered and just went through with it anyways. Coupla bremelos got it in with me thanks to a few bricks of 20/20 and some Sade playing in the background. Had a 'gra duckin and dodging 'em on campus 'cause I wasn't trying to have no big buffarilla walkin up on me while I'm with the crew talmbout "when we gettin' together again?". I regretted those sexual encounters, but I'd hardly cry "? " over them and neither should some chick that ? some Biggie or Urkel lookin cat while ? .
regardless of the why, if you're having sex with a woman... and she says stop during the act.... and you don't...that's technically ?
that's all we're arguing
a woman after consenting to have sex with a man, crying ? to save face after the act is an entirely different thing altogether
this law does not nothing to prevent the aforementioned scenario from playing out in the woman's favor
lol
That's exactly what he said in the post you quoted.
No
He seems to be arguing that, barring any violence or explicit coercion, a woman cannot be ? if she initially consented to having sex...
or at least she should not feel compelled to report it as a ?
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »atribecalledgabi wrote: »BrideofKilla wrote: »What if she didn't realize the d was wack until he got in it and she decides she doesn't want it anymore? Or he says some wild uncouth ? while ? talking? I think she should have the right to a change of heart.
Can men still keep it up when a woman is crying begging you to get off of her? Is there no off switch until completion?
Was gonna come say this lol. Neither party can plan for this so idk where the "make better decisions" part comes in...in THIS particular situation.
"ride it out"
Nah cousin....if I tell a ? to wrap it up and he doing the exact same ? ...aint switch up the stroke or nothing....I'm looking around for anything to bop him over the head with lol.
Idk why some of yall acting brand new like social interactions are eternally binding. If I have a party at my house and invite you over only to find out you the typa person that puts your feet all over my coffee table and don't use coasters leaving rings all over my surfaces, don't throw your trash away, being rude to my other guests...just because I invited you over doesn't mean I can't kick you out.
Lol
Right
If ur ? is trash, ur breath stank, u tryna bend me in types of positions, I'm sore etc ...whatever the reason i reserve the right to ask you up out me
Was speaking with a co-worker about it
And I would bet 1 out of every 5 women got a story about that one ? who would do his best to get those 4, 5 extra pumps in even after you have asked him to stop like thats cool or it was nothing
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konceptjones wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »this can go either way.
If consent was given and the dude gets violent or tries to ? her in the ass when that clearly wasn't on the menu or was denied earlier or some other ? she didn't agree to there needs to be a way out for her.
If consent was given and mid-act she regrets it she shouldn't be able to cry "? " because clearly that's not what happened.
so in the middle of the act if a woman wants to stop and their wishes aren't honored by their sexual partner, said partner should only have to face consequences in extreme cases
is that what you're saying?
because I'm sure if consent was given to have vaginal sex and the dude gets violent or tries to ? a woman in the ass against her will, the woman regrets ever had having sex with bruh in the first place
Are you willing to concede wholeheartedly that a man that backs out of a sexual encounter only to have the woman continue was ? ? Let's say she was riding him and about to ? and dude said "stop, get off" and she doesn't until she gets hers is she then a ? ? The single biggest problem I have with people like you is that you refuse to hold women to the exact same standard you hold men to, but somehow you want "equality". Equality means you're held accountable for your actions just like any man would be and if you're giving head to some dude and he says "stop" and you don't you're a ? and deserve to go to prison and be registered as a sex offender.
lol @ "ppl like me"
but to question your question....
yes ...she is a ?
no means no
I say people like you because, historically, you have had a hard time with holding women accountable for the same things men are.
@Madame_CJSkywalker
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