Is hov officially the GROAT?

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KamPushMe
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edited July 2017 in The Reason
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Is hov officially the GROAT? 122 votes

Yes
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No
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  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What based off of bars or impact what ?? Or are you counting his business acumen
  •  i ro ny
    i ro ny Members Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes

    He's the greatest rapper we will ever see in our lifetimes.
  • CapitalB
    CapitalB Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes
    ill give him the nod..
    off longevity and relevance alone..

    whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..

    he's the staple..
  • power_wisdom
    power_wisdom Members Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No
    ill give him the nod..
    off longevity and relevance alone..

    whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..

    he's the staple..

    Nas and Common both been out longer.
  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No
    He's checked off every box as an artist that you can, and he's done much of it better than anyone else.

    It's hard to call him the greatest when he doesn't have a better album than so many other greats. But that's subjective.

    Objectively, He stands alone. And all of the attributes that ? is about to come in here and say he don't have.... This may be true, he may lack a certain something that an individual possesses, like Nas' story telling, pacs passion, and B.I.G.'s wittiness, but he'll have them beat in every other category.


  • power_wisdom
    power_wisdom Members Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No
    ill give him the nod..
    off longevity and relevance alone..

    whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..

    he's the staple..

    Nas and Common both been out longer.

    who??

    ? we talkin about Jay Z..
    neither of them ? has done it on the level Jay has..

    Stop pocket watching Both Nas &Common are top mc in the industry. And Nas been major. And being "on top "don't make you the goat. Puffy been on top for 20 too.
  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No
    R2_163 wrote: »
    i personally wouldn't say it but i really want to know a valid reason why he shouldn't be considered

    If he's out of consideration, it's because ? is ? , and think emotionally. That ? got 11 #1 albums. I can't wait for a ? to say pac had more influence so I can dump they ass down wit the logic.
  •  i ro ny
    i ro ny Members Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes
    Lefty_ wrote: »
    R2_163 wrote: »
    i personally wouldn't say it but i really want to know a valid reason why he shouldn't be considered

    If he's out of consideration, it's because ? is ? , and think emotionally. That ? got 14 #1 albums. I can't wait for a ? to say pac had more influence so I can dump they ass down wit the logic.

    Fixed.
  • CapitalB
    CapitalB Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes
    ill give him the nod..
    off longevity and relevance alone..

    whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..

    he's the staple..

    Nas and Common both been out longer.

    who??

    ? we talkin about Jay Z..
    neither of them ? has done it on the level Jay has..

    Stop pocket watching Both Nas &Common are top mc in the industry. And Nas been major. And being "on top "don't make you the goat. Puffy been on top for 20 too.

    Nas and Common dont mean more to rap/hip hop than JayZ ? stop it..

    and i ? wit Puffy..
    more so than Jay Z.. but no ? ..
  • sapp08_2001
    sapp08_2001 Members Posts: 7,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • R2_163
    R2_163 Members Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    qawshun wrote: »
    What based off of bars or impact what ?? Or are you counting his business acumen

    He's top shelf in all 3 though, no?
  • GetoBoy
    GetoBoy Members Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes
    It's subjective but he has just as good of a case as anybody you can name and has a better case then most so imo he's the GOAT
  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No
    i think ? need to know that there is a difference between great and best..
    ? dont aways run concurrent..

    Mayweather is technically a better boxer than Ali..
    but he aint greater than..

    jus sayin..

    Jay is technically a better rapper than big. But he ain't greater than.
  • CapitalB
    CapitalB Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes
    and the cold part is the ? aint even done wit his old ass..

    ? took hiphop to the whitehouse..

    Barack aint bumpin Nas. hahaha
  • CapitalB
    CapitalB Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes
    sat on the porch wit Oprah.

  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2017
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    No
    Lefty_ wrote: »
    i think ? need to know that there is a difference between great and best..
    ? dont aways run concurrent..

    Mayweather is technically a better boxer than Ali..
    but he aint greater than..

    jus sayin..

    Jay is technically a better rapper than big. But he ain't greater than.

    20+ yrs >> 3yrs

    Biggie the BoJack of hiphop..

    All of that and he doesn't have a better performance than victory, and he doesn't have a better album than ready to die........

    When you distill it all the way down to just gettin in the both and rapping.....

    Big > Jay
  • 270crownst
    270crownst Members Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No
    BIG IS THE GOAT