Is hov officially the GROAT?
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No2Pac
That's my favorite. -
What based off of bars or impact what ?? Or are you counting his business acumen
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NoNOPE
He is
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Nohe's legendary but his record is nowhere near flawless
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Yes
He's the greatest rapper we will ever see in our lifetimes. -
NoRevolver Ocelot wrote: »NOPE
He is
Nas, & Common made better albums. Jay just making a completely deep album. Nas & Common been did that a long time ago. -
Yesill give him the nod..
off longevity and relevance alone..
whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..
he's the staple.. -
NoBOSSExcellence wrote: »ill give him the nod..
off longevity and relevance alone..
whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..
he's the staple..
Nas and Common both been out longer. -
Yespower_wisdom wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »ill give him the nod..
off longevity and relevance alone..
whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..
he's the staple..
Nas and Common both been out longer.
who??
? we talkin about Jay Z..
neither of them ? has done it on the level Jay has..
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i personally wouldn't say it but i really want to know a valid reason why he shouldn't be considered
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NoHe's checked off every box as an artist that you can, and he's done much of it better than anyone else.
It's hard to call him the greatest when he doesn't have a better album than so many other greats. But that's subjective.
Objectively, He stands alone. And all of the attributes that ? is about to come in here and say he don't have.... This may be true, he may lack a certain something that an individual possesses, like Nas' story telling, pacs passion, and B.I.G.'s wittiness, but he'll have them beat in every other category.
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NoBOSSExcellence wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »ill give him the nod..
off longevity and relevance alone..
whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..
he's the staple..
Nas and Common both been out longer.
who??
? we talkin about Jay Z..
neither of them ? has done it on the level Jay has..
Stop pocket watching Both Nas &Common are top mc in the industry. And Nas been major. And being "on top "don't make you the goat. Puffy been on top for 20 too. -
Noi personally wouldn't say it but i really want to know a valid reason why he shouldn't be considered
If he's out of consideration, it's because ? is ? , and think emotionally. That ? got 11 #1 albums. I can't wait for a ? to say pac had more influence so I can dump they ass down wit the logic. -
Yesi personally wouldn't say it but i really want to know a valid reason why he shouldn't be considered
If he's out of consideration, it's because ? is ? , and think emotionally. That ? got 14 #1 albums. I can't wait for a ? to say pac had more influence so I can dump they ass down wit the logic.
Fixed.
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Yespower_wisdom wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »ill give him the nod..
off longevity and relevance alone..
whats!? 20+ years in the game.. atleast 20 on top..
he's the staple..
Nas and Common both been out longer.
who??
? we talkin about Jay Z..
neither of them ? has done it on the level Jay has..
Stop pocket watching Both Nas &Common are top mc in the industry. And Nas been major. And being "on top "don't make you the goat. Puffy been on top for 20 too.
Nas and Common dont mean more to rap/hip hop than JayZ ? stop it..
and i ? wit Puffy..
more so than Jay Z.. but no ? .. -
Yesi think ? need to know that there is a difference between great and best..
? dont aways run concurrent..
Mayweather is technically a better boxer than Ali..
but he aint greater than..
jus sayin.. -
NoHell naw
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What based off of bars or impact what ?? Or are you counting his business acumen
He's top shelf in all 3 though, no? -
YesIt's subjective but he has just as good of a case as anybody you can name and has a better case then most so imo he's the GOAT
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NoBOSSExcellence wrote: »i think ? need to know that there is a difference between great and best..
? dont aways run concurrent..
Mayweather is technically a better boxer than Ali..
but he aint greater than..
jus sayin..
Jay is technically a better rapper than big. But he ain't greater than. -
YesBOSSExcellence wrote: »i think ? need to know that there is a difference between great and best..
? dont aways run concurrent..
Mayweather is technically a better boxer than Ali..
but he aint greater than..
jus sayin..
Jay is technically a better rapper than big. But he ain't greater than.
20+ yrs >> 3yrs
Biggie the BoJack of hiphop.. -
Yesand the cold part is the ? aint even done wit his old ass..
? took hiphop to the whitehouse..
Barack aint bumpin Nas. hahaha -
Yessat on the porch wit Oprah.
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NoBOSSExcellence wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »i think ? need to know that there is a difference between great and best..
? dont aways run concurrent..
Mayweather is technically a better boxer than Ali..
but he aint greater than..
jus sayin..
Jay is technically a better rapper than big. But he ain't greater than.
20+ yrs >> 3yrs
Biggie the BoJack of hiphop..
All of that and he doesn't have a better performance than victory, and he doesn't have a better album than ready to die........
When you distill it all the way down to just gettin in the both and rapping.....
Big > Jay -
NoBIG IS THE GOAT