Australian woman visiting the US calls 911 for noise complaint, gets the bullets instead
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Do I feel sorry for the cop? Yes! I feel sorry for anyone put in a this position. That cop did not want to ? that women. I betcha he wished he never had to draw his weapon ever.
Does he deserve to go to jail? Hell yes! Like we say in the Navy. Pick your rate (job), Pick your fate! Being a cop aint easy but being a scared cop just shows you aint built for this ? . Half the cops aint built for that life. I have a church member that became a cop. I know he aint built for that ? . He should have became a transit cop or TSA. It is alot of mfer that scare people but do they deserve to die because you scared.
Cops are taught, "it is your life or theirs"? That is a statement from a actual training document. Either you are here to protect and serve or are you here to survive?
interesting....
I guess I see how cops ? so much now -
You couple that mentality with having cops watch vids like this in training and you see you why they all think "anyone and everyone is out to get me". This is video is used in cop training.
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Will Munny wrote: »You couple that mentality with having cops watch vids like this in training and you see you why they all think "anyone and everyone is out to get me". This is video is used in cop training.https://youtu.be/k8-ycSkoYfc
dude shoulda "feared for his life" like 13 times
had that kind of stuff happened anywhere else but what im guessing is a small ass town, dude wouldve at least been subdued off top. can tell training varies from place to place. mfs prob have the same training tools and ? , but because they dont deal with the same issues they dont practice/know how to handle.. -
Will Munny wrote: »You couple that mentality with having cops watch vids like this in training and you see you why they all think "anyone and everyone is out to get me". This is video is used in cop training.https://youtu.be/k8-ycSkoYfc
This happened near where I live...
But the whole "its your life or thiers" sounds like some NatGeo big cat week ? -
Well....playing devils advocate......the public is continuously inundated with police shooting them and psychologically impacted by seeing them get away without penalty.....
Does this mean all citizens should fear for their lives during police encounters and do what they have to do to make it home (and not death or jail) or are the citizens held to a higher standard?
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King Ghidorah wrote: »
I was tryna ignore it, but the mathematician in me couldn't help it, I'm pretty sure you meant 1.000 (batting a thousand/100% success rate).
I feels ya doe! lol
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Where's Blue Lives Matter? Hmmmmmmm!!!! They must be on vacation this week
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https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/07/20/fox-news-unusually-focused-nationality-officer-who-shot-justine-damond-hes-somali-american/217317Fox News is unusually focused on the nationality of the officer who shot Justine Damond (he's Somali-American)
The network’s coverage mainstreams xenophobic narratives about immigrant crime -
stringer bell wrote: »https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/07/20/fox-news-unusually-focused-nationality-officer-who-shot-justine-damond-hes-somali-american/217317Fox News is unusually focused on the nationality of the officer who shot Justine Damond (he's Somali-American)
The network’s coverage mainstreams xenophobic narratives about immigrant crime
I'll take things we already knew for 300 stew -
T. Sanford wrote: »Where's Blue Lives Matter? Hmmmmmmm!!!! They must be on vacation this week
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http://www.kare11.com/news/officer-in-damond-shooting-doesnt-have-to-talk-to-bca/458174048Officer in Damond shooting doesn't have to talk to BCA
MINNEAPOLIS - A Minneapolis police officer who fatally shot a woman who had called 911 to report a possible ? still hasn't spoken with investigators and doesn't have to, but he will be compelled to give a statement to his department as part of an internal investigation.
Officer Mohamed Noor hasn't provided his explanation for what happened Saturday when he fired a shot from the passenger seat of a squad car, past his partner in the driver's seat and killed Justine Damond, 40, who was standing outside the vehicle.
According to the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, Noor's partner, Officer Matthew Harrity, told investigators he was driving in the alley with all of the vehicle's lights off when he was startled by a loud noise, which authorities did not describe. Harrity said Damond appeared at the driver's side window "immediately afterward" and Noor fired, striking her in the abdomen. She died at the scene.
When it comes to talking to authorities, defense attorneys and legal experts said police officers have the same Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination as everyone else.
"Any lawyer that would recommend to him that he should give a statement to the BCA should be disbarred," said Joe Friedberg, a Minneapolis defense attorney who's not involved in the case. "Nobody should ever speak to law enforcement when they're the subject of a criminal investigation."
In contrast, Officer Jeronimo Yanez in the nearby suburb of St. Anthony sat down with state agents last summer the day after he shot Philando Castile. Prosecutors used his statement as evidence against him during his manslaughter trial, but the defense used it, too. Jurors apparently accepted Yanez's claims that he saw Castile's gun and believed his life was in danger. Yanez was acquitted.
The police department's internal affairs unit can compel Noor to give a statement as part of its own investigation, and fire him if he refuses, but that statement cannot be used against him in any criminal investigation, Friedberg said.
Assistant Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said that an internal use-of-force investigation has been opened, which is standard any time an officer discharges a weapon. The police chief has asked that the review be expedited, but much of the information needed is in the hands of state investigators. -
http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-police-union-silent-after-damond-shooting/435510903/Minneapolis police union silent after Justine Damond shooting
Lt. Bob Kroll, breaking from past practice, said he will wait for investigation.
The fatal shooting of Justine Damond by a Minneapolis police officer has elicited strong reactions, from Mayor Betsy Hodges to Australia’s prime minister, who this week demanded answers in what he called a “shocking killing.”
But one voice was conspicuously missing: that of the union that represents the city’s 860-plus police officers.
In the days since the shooting on the city’s southwest side, Minneapolis Police Federation President Lt. Bob Kroll has repeatedly declined requests for comment on the shooting of the 40-year-old woman by officer Mohamed Noor.
The normally outspoken Kroll said he would wait until the completion of the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension’s investigation into the incident.
When pressed on the union’s silence, Kroll said this week that he was vilified after he publicly defended the two officers involved in the November 2015 shooting of Jamar Clark.
Kroll said that Hodges and Minneapolis Police Chief Janeé Harteau “condemned me for my swift response” after he came to the defense of the two officers involved, Mark Ringgenberg and Dustin Schwarze. Both were later cleared in separate federal, state and internal probes.
“The chief came out one complete year later and regurgitated what I said,” Kroll said in a series of text messages Tuesday. “But I was the hated [one] for it all.”
Kroll said he came out in defense of the officers in the Clark case only after speaking with their attorney. “In this case, I don’t know the facts of it,” Kroll said. “His attorney is handling and the Federation is remaining silent. This is how our board and attorney decided to handle this one.”
Noor’s attorney, Thomas Plunkett, did not respond to requests for comment.
Police officials declined to comment on Kroll’s statements, and a spokesman for Hodges didn’t immediately respond to a message on Wednesday.
One City Council member was quick to point out that the union, usually a staunch supporter of cops accused of misconduct, hadn’t weighed in on the controversy.
“I don’t know how they do things; I think there’s a misperception that City Council is very close to them, or does their bidding, or has any control over them, and that’s just simply not true,” said Council Member Blong Yang, who chairs the Public Safety Committee. “I’d expect that they’re going to say something at some point — that’s their job.”
Not only has the union rushed to the defense of other officers involved in on-duty shootings, but it issued a lengthy, supportive statement after a Minneapolis police officer shot and wounded two dogs in a north Minneapolis backyard earlier this month. The incident was captured on home security video.
But the silence from the union in the Noor case is deafening, said Michael Padden, an attorney representing the dogs’ owner and a veteran litigator in lawsuits involving law enforcement. “It’s kind of surprising that they’re not saying anything, not even a quasi-supportive statement of ‘Wait until the investigation is done,’ ” Padden said.
Earlier this year, the union publicly backed officer Christopher Reiter, who was charged with assault after a security video caught him kicking a suspect in the face. The statement cautioned against rushing to judgment before all the facts are in, saying Reiter “deserves the same presumption of innocence every citizen is afforded in our justice system.”
The lack of response in the most recent shooting hasn’t been lost on some black officers. According to department sources, some officers have vented their frustration with Kroll over what they interpreted as a lack of support for Noor, who is Somali-American. Damond is white.
But Al Berryman, a past union president, said Kroll was doing right by staying quiet until he knows more.
“Cops want you to support them, but when they do something that’s questionable ... and you don’t have any evidence, you’ve gotta shut up,” said Berryman, who has been following the case via news reports from his home in Montana.
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This ? is ? . He's black, a Muslim, and a immigrant that's the top three things white people hate all rolled up in one he's a racists ?
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the cop who shot the two dogs is black
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This is why I don't understand how any black person could be a cop. My aunt's cousin just retired recently from Baltimore PD. Now I don't have to look at her funny anymore.
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pissedoffnobody wrote: »pissedoffnobody wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »I am conflicted. This cops should go down, but I want him to get off so they know how it feels. Either way it won't change anything unless this happens to white more often. Just wish it was a white cop that shot her to see what the outcome and response would be. I wouldn't even be surprised if he is just taking the fall for it since he has yet to speak.
So you don't want justice served out of bigoted spite? "It happens to us, let them know how it feels now"?
Crimes should be punished based on the nature of the crime and the intent behind them, not because of skin colour. You want a favoured system in any way, then you're part of the problem. Innocent people are innocent people, nobody killed because of a stupid pig panicking deserves to die to somehow "balance the scales", what should happen is the cops responsible, regardless of their skin colour as well, should have to face real consequences for their actions. If you want any sort of rigged system rather than actual justice, then that's how these ? can try justify such actions as "in the public interest" even if your average member of the public is a ? idiot who thinks it's okay for a cop to ? an innocent white woman because other cops have killed innocent black men. It's a ? degree of false equivalency putting them blame on the victims for their skin colour rather than the pigs for their lack of restraint and training so they don't pop people who've called for help from them rather than a hit on their front lawns that sends them to the morgue.
you keep saying that there should be justice served regardless of skin color. The point is, it is not. Cops are let off frequently because they have killed someone who is not white. The system is flawed for everyone but it disproportionately affects black people. Nobody in this thread has killed that woman. That is at the fault of the officer. Nobody cares about him getting off, it's more about what the system represents. There is an overwhelming amount of sympathy for this victim, unlike so many black victims. Wanting them to know how it feels so they'll wake up (very unlikely) isn't really about this one Injustice, it's about all of them.
There's been a fair outpouring of sympathy for the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, and many others. To make the issue one of racial oneupmanship rather than institutonal corruption is missing the forest for the trees. "I want others to suffer like we have". Yeah, "An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind in the end" and that's literally happening here, people want top ignore the issue that the police are murderers who get to walk away regardless of the victim's colour or even their own because they are blinding themselves to the bigger issue while further dividing their own communities based on racist logic.
You can't one day say #BLACKLIVESMATTER and the next #WHITEWOMANDESERVEDIT when your position is seeking equality rather than unfair persecution based on race when you're doing the exact same ? thing. It's ignorant, hypocritical and is exactly why this ? continues, because people make it a white vs black issue rather than a "our taxes pay people who can ? us on our own property, when are we going to stand up against this ? rather than pay to be executed by underskilled jumpy idiots with guns?"
Wanting other people to suffer just because you have is stupid and spiteful. Nobody deserves to be killed by the police when they can for their help, black, white, asian or otherwise. Trying to say "? deserved it 'cos pigs killed a bunch of us" is ignoring the fact this is a real human being with family that our mourning her passing as a wife, daughter and mother, not just some ? trivial statistic in America's race wars/institutional corruption, particularly since she was an Australian visiting the country and doesn't seem to have been contributing to the problems herself since she's not even an American citizen employed by any of these ? agencies of law enforcement or government. She's an innocent victim here, if people think her death is justified because she was white and "didn't understand American cops" then are we saying ignorance of local customs is the basis to justify cops killing people? It's just an incredibly stupid and ignorant mindset when clearly this shows the problem affects both white and black people, citizens and visitors.
Also, you do realise white people do awful things and ? each other regularly, right? The whole history of humanity has shown humans have a tendency for violence and depravity, regardless of colour. Black people sold off their own kind to Americans, Germany didn't do the Jews any favours, The War Of The Roses, Scottish Rebellion, Irish Uprising... people in power will persecute and make problems for the underclass to maintain power and the status quo until people act out enough to cause real change. The issue is born out of the need to acquire power, to maintain and enforce order as it benefits those in charge, not race, otherwise no countries with similar looking people of the same colour would have ever had problems and that's clearly not true. It's focusing on current issues in a regional context rather than then grander scale of why this has always been a problem throughout history with despots, fascists and those beyond the law getting away with murder.
you seem really mad that this white woman got killed. To the point of you acting like Nobody demonized Trayvon Martin or Eric Garner. George Zimmerman still walking around free you think this black cop is going to have that courtesy?
Listen, nobody is saying this woman deserved it because she's white or at all. this ? happens so much to black people, a lot of us are numb to it. We're supposed to get upset and cry over a white person because of rest of the world is? No there are plenty of people upset about this woman she has it she has all the support, she has people picking apart this policeman. She has people Talking about her saving ducklings and how wonderful she was.
I don't know why you want me to feel Sympathy for the white people who are upset about this? ? these white people. 90% of them don't give a ? about the black people that get killed and push the narrative like blue lives matter and white lives matter, excuse me, all lives matter. so seeing them outraged that a cop gets off? I'm supposed to be upset if that happens?? which it wont.
Unlike every other case, the police department is not sticking by this cop. He's going to jail. It will be justice so you can relax. It's just not going to be the same the next time when it's a black face. -
http://abcnews.go.com/US/australian-woman-killed-minneapolis-police-officer-didnt-die/story?id=48759868
wow
I knew this is going to happen but damn this feels like a slap in the face -
pissedoffnobody wrote: »pissedoffnobody wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »I am conflicted. This cops should go down, but I want him to get off so they know how it feels. Either way it won't change anything unless this happens to white more often. Just wish it was a white cop that shot her to see what the outcome and response would be. I wouldn't even be surprised if he is just taking the fall for it since he has yet to speak.
So you don't want justice served out of bigoted spite? "It happens to us, let them know how it feels now"?
Crimes should be punished based on the nature of the crime and the intent behind them, not because of skin colour. You want a favoured system in any way, then you're part of the problem. Innocent people are innocent people, nobody killed because of a stupid pig panicking deserves to die to somehow "balance the scales", what should happen is the cops responsible, regardless of their skin colour as well, should have to face real consequences for their actions. If you want any sort of rigged system rather than actual justice, then that's how these ? can try justify such actions as "in the public interest" even if your average member of the public is a ? idiot who thinks it's okay for a cop to ? an innocent white woman because other cops have killed innocent black men. It's a ? degree of false equivalency putting them blame on the victims for their skin colour rather than the pigs for their lack of restraint and training so they don't pop people who've called for help from them rather than a hit on their front lawns that sends them to the morgue.
you keep saying that there should be justice served regardless of skin color. The point is, it is not. Cops are let off frequently because they have killed someone who is not white. The system is flawed for everyone but it disproportionately affects black people. Nobody in this thread has killed that woman. That is at the fault of the officer. Nobody cares about him getting off, it's more about what the system represents. There is an overwhelming amount of sympathy for this victim, unlike so many black victims. Wanting them to know how it feels so they'll wake up (very unlikely) isn't really about this one Injustice, it's about all of them.
There's been a fair outpouring of sympathy for the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Sean Bell, Eric Garner, and many others. To make the issue one of racial oneupmanship rather than institutonal corruption is missing the forest for the trees. "I want others to suffer like we have". Yeah, "An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind in the end" and that's literally happening here, people want to ignore the issue that the police are murderers who get to walk away regardless of the victim's colour or even their own because they are blinding themselves to the bigger issue while further dividing their own communities based on racist logic.
You can't one day say #BLACKLIVESMATTER and the next #WHITEWOMANDESERVEDIT when your position is seeking equality rather than unfair persecution based on race when you're doing the exact same ? thing. It's ignorant, hypocritical and is exactly why this ? continues, because people make it a white vs black issue rather than a "our taxes pay people who can ? us on our own property, when are we going to stand up against this ? rather than pay to be executed by underskilled jumpy idiots with guns?"
Wanting other people to suffer just because you have is stupid and spiteful. Nobody deserves to be killed by the police when they can for their help, black, white, asian or otherwise. Trying to say "? deserved it 'cos pigs killed a bunch of us" is ignoring the fact this is a real human being with family that our mourning her passing as a wife, daughter and mother, not just some ? trivial statistic in America's race wars/institutional corruption, particularly since she was an Australian visiting the country and doesn't seem to have been contributing to the problems herself since she's not even an American citizen employed by any of these ? agencies of law enforcement or government. She's an innocent victim here, if people think her death is justified because she was white and "didn't understand American cops" then are we saying ignorance of local customs is the basis to justify cops killing people? It's just an incredibly stupid and ignorant mindset when clearly this shows the problem affects both white and black people, citizens and visitors.
Also, you do realise white people do awful things and ? each other regularly, right? The whole history of humanity has shown humans have a tendency for violence and depravity, regardless of colour. Black people sold off their own kind to Americans, Germany didn't do the Jews any favours, The War Of The Roses, Scottish Rebellion, Irish Uprising... people in power will persecute and make problems for the underclass to maintain power and the status quo until people act out enough to cause real change. The issue is born out of the need to acquire power, to maintain and enforce order as it benefits those in charge, not race, otherwise no countries with similar looking people of the same colour would have ever had problems and that's clearly not true. It's focusing on current issues in a regional context rather than then grander scale of why this has always been a problem throughout history with despots, fascists and those beyond the law getting away with murder.
There is no one here saying any of this. Not one person said this white woman deserved anything other than life.
At worst the sentiment has been "Hopefully now these Yakubians will understand how we feel."
And of course, y'all don't. So you wrote this titangraph of projection. -
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That was a ? lite rally
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Police chief just resignedhttp://abcnews.go.com/US/australian-woman-killed-minneapolis-police-officer-didnt-die/story?id=48759868
wow
I knew this is going to happen but damn this feels like a slap in the face
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? oil, diamonds, gold, clean water, fresh air and farmable land. White skin is the most valuable commodity on this planet.
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Similar situation for this young brotha losing his life. I saw so many ? excuses from cacs as to why his killer shouldn't serve time! Now all of a sudden they want to bring up the officers past. They conveniently disregarded Loehmann's past when he killed Tamir. Now it's she didn't have to die...muthafucka neither did Aiyana, Philando or countless other but hey let's keep being hypocritical!
https://youtu.be/04IIL2mPCs8
