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  • Negro_Caesar
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    Mastery wrote: »
    @? _Caesar for $50.

    This ? don't even know? Lol ? I aint getting paid.....bet might be off lol

    Y would the bet be off? I don't do ? but take u IC ? money
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    ? _Caesar wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    @? _Caesar for $50.

    This ? don't even know? Lol ? I aint getting paid.....bet might be off lol

    Y would the bet be off? I don't do ? but take u IC ? money

    ? the fight tomorrow and u aint aware of the wager.....da ? ? Anyway I'm good on my end
  • Mastery
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    I don't know about the rest of y'all but I'm probably the safest ? to bet on here haha. I take underdogs the majority of the time and payment is NEVER an issue haha
  • Negro_Caesar
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    ? _Caesar wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    @? _Caesar for $50.

    This ? don't even know? Lol ? I aint getting paid.....bet might be off lol

    Y would the bet be off? I don't do ? but take u IC ? money

    ? the fight tomorrow and u aint aware of the wager.....da ? ? Anyway I'm good on my end

    I'm aware of the 50. Just forgot who was sending it to me
  • Maywood
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  • Like Water
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    http://www.boxingscene.com/top-rank-vp-we-would-love-lomachenko-salido-ii-soon-possible--118786
    Top Rank VP: We'd Love Lomachenko-Salido II As Soon as Possible

    Next Saturday night, August 5th, Vasyl Lomachenko (8-1, 6 KOs) will defend the WBO super featherweight title against Miguel Marriaga (25-2, 21 KOs), who is moving up from the featherweight limit.

    The ESPN televised fight takes place at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles, California.

    Marriaga is really in tough. He is coming off an April twelve round decision loss to WBO featherweight champion Oscar Valdez, who has far less experience when compared to Lomachenko.

    Marriaga's other defeat came at the hands of Nicholas Walters, who last year was easily defeated by Lomachenko. In fact, the two-time Olympic gold medal winner dominated him so badly that Walters quit.

    According to Top Rank Vice President Carl Moretti, they were having a very difficult time securing a top opponent for Lomachenko - and Marriaga was one of the few who was available and willing to step up to the plate.

    "Lomachenko is rightly considered one of the best fighters in the world. I think personally that he has the best footwork in the world. He’s just like a magician in there on his feet. This fight sort of came together, we were looking and a lot of the other 130 pound fighters either didn’t want the fight or were fighting other fights. Miguel Marriaga, who just lost a close decision to Oscar Valdez, was willing to step up and challenge Lomachenko at 130, in Los Angeles," Moretti told On The Ropes Boxing Radio.

    "I think people are starting to catch on as to how good of fighter Lomachenko is, and it’s another chance for him to show his talent to even a wider audience on ESPN, and hopefully more people will just realize and see first-hand for themselves how good he is."

    The original opponent that Top Rank pursued for Lomachenko was former champion Orlando Salido, who handed the Ukrainian fighter his first career defeat in 2014 - which was Lomachenko's second pro fight. They couldn't finalize the fight and Marriaga was brought in.

    Top Rank would still be very interested in making that fight - but it would have to happen soon as Lomachenko is already looking at making the jump to the lightweight division.


    "[Lomachenko] would like to do it. We thought all along that this was going to be the opponent for Vasyl on August the 5th and it just for whatever reason didn’t happen, so I don’t think that Lomachenko is going to worry about it moving forward. He is in a different stage of his career than Salido is. We would love to do it eventually or soon as possible, if it happens great, if it doesn’t, then so be it. You know those three words; life goes on," Moretti said.

    Man, ? a Salido. I know Vasyl lost to dude, but he needs to let that ? go. Salido old as ? and there's nothing to gain there except some arbitrary, personal get back.

    Despite Arum and Floyd hating each other and not wanting to make money for the other, they should look into a match with Vasyl and Gervonta. Or if that can't happen, Vasyl needs to move up and fight Linares/Garcia/Broner.

    Any of those fights make Vasyl a top fighter in the eyes of boxing purists.
  • killap
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    Anybody else taking Broner tonight and wants to put something on it??
  • playmaker88
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    Like Water wrote: »
    http://www.boxingscene.com/top-rank-vp-we-would-love-lomachenko-salido-ii-soon-possible--118786
    Top Rank VP: We'd Love Lomachenko-Salido II As Soon as Possible

    Next Saturday night, August 5th, Vasyl Lomachenko (8-1, 6 KOs) will defend the WBO super featherweight title against Miguel Marriaga (25-2, 21 KOs), who is moving up from the featherweight limit.

    The ESPN televised fight takes place at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles, California.

    Marriaga is really in tough. He is coming off an April twelve round decision loss to WBO featherweight champion Oscar Valdez, who has far less experience when compared to Lomachenko.

    Marriaga's other defeat came at the hands of Nicholas Walters, who last year was easily defeated by Lomachenko. In fact, the two-time Olympic gold medal winner dominated him so badly that Walters quit.

    According to Top Rank Vice President Carl Moretti, they were having a very difficult time securing a top opponent for Lomachenko - and Marriaga was one of the few who was available and willing to step up to the plate.

    "Lomachenko is rightly considered one of the best fighters in the world. I think personally that he has the best footwork in the world. He’s just like a magician in there on his feet. This fight sort of came together, we were looking and a lot of the other 130 pound fighters either didn’t want the fight or were fighting other fights. Miguel Marriaga, who just lost a close decision to Oscar Valdez, was willing to step up and challenge Lomachenko at 130, in Los Angeles," Moretti told On The Ropes Boxing Radio.

    "I think people are starting to catch on as to how good of fighter Lomachenko is, and it’s another chance for him to show his talent to even a wider audience on ESPN, and hopefully more people will just realize and see first-hand for themselves how good he is."

    The original opponent that Top Rank pursued for Lomachenko was former champion Orlando Salido, who handed the Ukrainian fighter his first career defeat in 2014 - which was Lomachenko's second pro fight. They couldn't finalize the fight and Marriaga was brought in.

    Top Rank would still be very interested in making that fight - but it would have to happen soon as Lomachenko is already looking at making the jump to the lightweight division.


    "[Lomachenko] would like to do it. We thought all along that this was going to be the opponent for Vasyl on August the 5th and it just for whatever reason didn’t happen, so I don’t think that Lomachenko is going to worry about it moving forward. He is in a different stage of his career than Salido is. We would love to do it eventually or soon as possible, if it happens great, if it doesn’t, then so be it. You know those three words; life goes on," Moretti said.

    Man, ? a Salido. I know Vasyl lost to dude, but he needs to let that ? go. Salido old as ? and there's nothing to gain there except some arbitrary, personal get back.

    Despite Arum and Floyd hating each other and not wanting to make money for the other, they should look into a match with Vasyl and Gervonta. Or if that can't happen, Vasyl needs to move up and fight Linares/Garcia/Broner.

    Any of those fights make Vasyl a top fighter in the eyes of boxing purists.


    Lomanchenko is a top fighter...
  • Mastery
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    Thought Loma was already a top fighter? Lol
  • Mastery
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    I'm reading that it was Garcia, and not Broner, who struggled to make weight.
  • Like Water
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    Mastery wrote: »
    Thought Loma was already a top fighter? Lol

    Loma is a top fighter, but if you peruse a few boxing sites, a lot of people are shrugging him off saying he ducks fights and dumb ? . I think all those people are Rigo bandwagoners though.

    My point still stands: He doesn't need a fight with Salido to further his career. Salido does nothing for him, in terms of challenging himself. All it is is avenging a loss that no one really cares about.
  • playmaker88
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    Like Water wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    Thought Loma was already a top fighter? Lol

    Loma is a top fighter, but if you peruse a few boxing sites, a lot of people are shrugging him off saying he ducks fights and dumb ? . I think all those people are Rigo bandwagoners though.

    My point still stands: He doesn't need a fight with Salido to further his career. Salido does nothing for him, in terms of challenging himself. All it is is avenging a loss that no one really cares about.

    True, speaking of boxing sites.. its a shame that boxingscene is a ? wasteland of idiots and trolls i read snippets of threads and its just ridiculous..
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    Mastery wrote: »
    I'm reading that it was Garcia, and not Broner, who struggled to make weight.

    I can't wait bruh...

  • Mastery
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    Like Water wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    Thought Loma was already a top fighter? Lol

    Loma is a top fighter, but if you peruse a few boxing sites, a lot of people are shrugging him off saying he ducks fights and dumb ? . I think all those people are Rigo bandwagoners though.

    My point still stands: He doesn't need a fight with Salido to further his career. Salido does nothing for him, in terms of challenging himself. All it is is avenging a loss that no one really cares about.

    That was rhetorical my ? haha
  • stringer bell
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    http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20193294/recent-check-reveals-hundreds-seats-available-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight
    Tix for Mayweather-McGregor bout slow to sell

    Plenty LAS VEGAS -- It's supposed to be the hottest ticket in sports.

    So far, though, fans aren't exactly storming the box office to buy tickets for Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fight next month with Conor McGregor.

    A check online Saturday revealed hundreds -- even thousands -- of seats still available from Ticketmaster at the T-Mobile arena for the Aug. 26 fight. There are so many open seats that fans with enough room left on their credit cards can buy six tickets together in 162 different spots throughout the arena.

    That might be because of the astronomical prices set by promoters -- the cheapest tickets still available on Ticketmaster have a face value of $3,500. Or maybe fans are just waiting for the right time to buy, hoping the price will go down.

    Either way, promoter Leonard Ellerbe isn't terribly concerned. He says the fight will not only sell out, but break records for the richest gate.

    "We're very excited and very happy with ticket sales so far," Ellerbe told The Associated Press "We're well on our way to smashing our own record which transcended the sport."

    That record was a $72,198,500 gate set by Mayweather in his 2015 fight with Manny Pacquiao. That live gate was more than three times bigger than any previous boxing gate.

    Still, five days after tickets first went on sale, seats throughout the arena are widely available. They are not, however, for anyone a little light in the wallet.

    Prices start at $3,500 -- plus another $300 or so for buyer fees -- and climb to $10,000 near the ring. There are "platinum" seats that go for as much as $14,995.

    The resale market is nearly as pricey. At Seatgeek.com the get-in price is around $2,000 -- for one of the few seats that originally sold at $500 -- and the median listing price is about $7,000.

    There seems to be sticker shock in the marketplace.

    "There's fairly little sales going on in general," said Chris Leyden, a content analyst for SeatGeek.com. "I think a lot of it has to do with where prices are now. I think people are a little uncomfortable paying this much or maybe even more."

    The situation is much the same at StubHub, where demand for tickets is lower than it was at the same time before Mayweather's fight with Manny Pacquiao two years ago.

    "We're not necessarily seeing demand levels for the fight yet," said Johnna Hoff, a StubHub spokeswoman. "The encouraging part is people are buying some tickets."

    A UFC spokeswoman did not return calls for comment. Ticketmaster replied to an email by saying it will "decline to comment at this time."

    Any sign of slow ticket sales would undercut the argument by promoters that the fight might be the richest of all time, topping the Mayweather-Pacquiao bout that grossed some $600 million.

    Joris Drayer, a ticketing expert and professor of sports business at Temple, said high prices are likely limiting the market. Drayer said by the time fans spend money on travel and hotels in Las Vegas they would easily be over $10,000 for two tickets, making the pay-per-view a more attractive option.

    Drayer also said some of the smaller resellers who might have bought tickets in the past are likely on the sidelines because the tickets are so expensive that it will be harder to flip them for a profit.

    "This is the challenge when pricing a one-of-a-kind type of event. No one knows what the demand will be," Drayer said in an email. "In this case, it seems the promoters overestimated what people would be willing to pay -- and how many of those people willing (to) pay thousands would actually attend the event."

    The four city promotional tour the two fighters went on attracted large crowds, but fans for the most part got in free. Promoters are also expecting huge pay-per-view sales at $99.95 apiece that could rival the 4.6 million sold for Mayweather-Pacquiao.

    The demand for the fight is being driven largely by UFC fans, who tend to be younger than boxing fans and may not have pockets quite as deep.

    Another sign that demand may be lacking -- hotel prices for the weekend of the fight. There are still plenty of rooms available online in the $300 to $400 range, including several hotels operated by MGM Grand, which owns the T-Mobile arena.
  • Negro_Caesar
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    http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20193294/recent-check-reveals-hundreds-seats-available-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight
    Tix for Mayweather-McGregor bout slow to sell

    Plenty LAS VEGAS -- It's supposed to be the hottest ticket in sports.

    So far, though, fans aren't exactly storming the box office to buy tickets for Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fight next month with Conor McGregor.

    A check online Saturday revealed hundreds -- even thousands -- of seats still available from Ticketmaster at the T-Mobile arena for the Aug. 26 fight. There are so many open seats that fans with enough room left on their credit cards can buy six tickets together in 162 different spots throughout the arena.

    That might be because of the astronomical prices set by promoters -- the cheapest tickets still available on Ticketmaster have a face value of $3,500. Or maybe fans are just waiting for the right time to buy, hoping the price will go down.

    Either way, promoter Leonard Ellerbe isn't terribly concerned. He says the fight will not only sell out, but break records for the richest gate.

    "We're very excited and very happy with ticket sales so far," Ellerbe told The Associated Press "We're well on our way to smashing our own record which transcended the sport."

    That record was a $72,198,500 gate set by Mayweather in his 2015 fight with Manny Pacquiao. That live gate was more than three times bigger than any previous boxing gate.

    Still, five days after tickets first went on sale, seats throughout the arena are widely available. They are not, however, for anyone a little light in the wallet.

    Prices start at $3,500 -- plus another $300 or so for buyer fees -- and climb to $10,000 near the ring. There are "platinum" seats that go for as much as $14,995.

    The resale market is nearly as pricey. At Seatgeek.com the get-in price is around $2,000 -- for one of the few seats that originally sold at $500 -- and the median listing price is about $7,000.

    There seems to be sticker shock in the marketplace.

    "There's fairly little sales going on in general," said Chris Leyden, a content analyst for SeatGeek.com. "I think a lot of it has to do with where prices are now. I think people are a little uncomfortable paying this much or maybe even more."

    The situation is much the same at StubHub, where demand for tickets is lower than it was at the same time before Mayweather's fight with Manny Pacquiao two years ago.

    "We're not necessarily seeing demand levels for the fight yet," said Johnna Hoff, a StubHub spokeswoman. "The encouraging part is people are buying some tickets."

    A UFC spokeswoman did not return calls for comment. Ticketmaster replied to an email by saying it will "decline to comment at this time."

    Any sign of slow ticket sales would undercut the argument by promoters that the fight might be the richest of all time, topping the Mayweather-Pacquiao bout that grossed some $600 million.

    Joris Drayer, a ticketing expert and professor of sports business at Temple, said high prices are likely limiting the market. Drayer said by the time fans spend money on travel and hotels in Las Vegas they would easily be over $10,000 for two tickets, making the pay-per-view a more attractive option.

    Drayer also said some of the smaller resellers who might have bought tickets in the past are likely on the sidelines because the tickets are so expensive that it will be harder to flip them for a profit.

    "This is the challenge when pricing a one-of-a-kind type of event. No one knows what the demand will be," Drayer said in an email. "In this case, it seems the promoters overestimated what people would be willing to pay -- and how many of those people willing (to) pay thousands would actually attend the event."

    The four city promotional tour the two fighters went on attracted large crowds, but fans for the most part got in free. Promoters are also expecting huge pay-per-view sales at $99.95 apiece that could rival the 4.6 million sold for Mayweather-Pacquiao.

    The demand for the fight is being driven largely by UFC fans, who tend to be younger than boxing fans and may not have pockets quite as deep.

    Another sign that demand may be lacking -- hotel prices for the weekend of the fight. There are still plenty of rooms available online in the $300 to $400 range, including several hotels operated by MGM Grand, which owns the T-Mobile arena.

    ? ain't doing the numbers y'all think.
  • JLacey
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    ? _Caesar wrote: »
    http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20193294/recent-check-reveals-hundreds-seats-available-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight
    Tix for Mayweather-McGregor bout slow to sell

    Plenty LAS VEGAS -- It's supposed to be the hottest ticket in sports.

    So far, though, fans aren't exactly storming the box office to buy tickets for Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fight next month with Conor McGregor.

    A check online Saturday revealed hundreds -- even thousands -- of seats still available from Ticketmaster at the T-Mobile arena for the Aug. 26 fight. There are so many open seats that fans with enough room left on their credit cards can buy six tickets together in 162 different spots throughout the arena.

    That might be because of the astronomical prices set by promoters -- the cheapest tickets still available on Ticketmaster have a face value of $3,500. Or maybe fans are just waiting for the right time to buy, hoping the price will go down.

    Either way, promoter Leonard Ellerbe isn't terribly concerned. He says the fight will not only sell out, but break records for the richest gate.

    "We're very excited and very happy with ticket sales so far," Ellerbe told The Associated Press "We're well on our way to smashing our own record which transcended the sport."

    That record was a $72,198,500 gate set by Mayweather in his 2015 fight with Manny Pacquiao. That live gate was more than three times bigger than any previous boxing gate.

    Still, five days after tickets first went on sale, seats throughout the arena are widely available. They are not, however, for anyone a little light in the wallet.

    Prices start at $3,500 -- plus another $300 or so for buyer fees -- and climb to $10,000 near the ring. There are "platinum" seats that go for as much as $14,995.

    The resale market is nearly as pricey. At Seatgeek.com the get-in price is around $2,000 -- for one of the few seats that originally sold at $500 -- and the median listing price is about $7,000.

    There seems to be sticker shock in the marketplace.

    "There's fairly little sales going on in general," said Chris Leyden, a content analyst for SeatGeek.com. "I think a lot of it has to do with where prices are now. I think people are a little uncomfortable paying this much or maybe even more."

    The situation is much the same at StubHub, where demand for tickets is lower than it was at the same time before Mayweather's fight with Manny Pacquiao two years ago.

    "We're not necessarily seeing demand levels for the fight yet," said Johnna Hoff, a StubHub spokeswoman. "The encouraging part is people are buying some tickets."

    A UFC spokeswoman did not return calls for comment. Ticketmaster replied to an email by saying it will "decline to comment at this time."

    Any sign of slow ticket sales would undercut the argument by promoters that the fight might be the richest of all time, topping the Mayweather-Pacquiao bout that grossed some $600 million.

    Joris Drayer, a ticketing expert and professor of sports business at Temple, said high prices are likely limiting the market. Drayer said by the time fans spend money on travel and hotels in Las Vegas they would easily be over $10,000 for two tickets, making the pay-per-view a more attractive option.

    Drayer also said some of the smaller resellers who might have bought tickets in the past are likely on the sidelines because the tickets are so expensive that it will be harder to flip them for a profit.

    "This is the challenge when pricing a one-of-a-kind type of event. No one knows what the demand will be," Drayer said in an email. "In this case, it seems the promoters overestimated what people would be willing to pay -- and how many of those people willing (to) pay thousands would actually attend the event."

    The four city promotional tour the two fighters went on attracted large crowds, but fans for the most part got in free. Promoters are also expecting huge pay-per-view sales at $99.95 apiece that could rival the 4.6 million sold for Mayweather-Pacquiao.

    The demand for the fight is being driven largely by UFC fans, who tend to be younger than boxing fans and may not have pockets quite as deep.

    Another sign that demand may be lacking -- hotel prices for the weekend of the fight. There are still plenty of rooms available online in the $300 to $400 range, including several hotels operated by MGM Grand, which owns the T-Mobile arena.

    ? ain't doing the numbers y'all think.

    Still breaking the PPV record
  • ethos
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    Mastery wrote: »
    I'm reading that it was Garcia, and not Broner, who struggled to make weight.

    Ya, I bet he struggled to make weight coming in lighter than Garcia. GTFOH with your alternative facts ? .
  • Negro_Caesar
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    ethos wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    I'm reading that it was Garcia, and not Broner, who struggled to make weight.

    Ya, I bet he struggled to make weight coming in lighter than Garcia. GTFOH with your alternative facts ? .

    I think u reading this wrong
  • Mastery
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    ethos wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    I'm reading that it was Garcia, and not Broner, who struggled to make weight.

    Ya, I bet he struggled to make weight coming in lighter than Garcia. GTFOH with your alternative facts ? .

    h0jzdvd0jcce.gif

    ? is ? as ? bruh.
  • Mastery
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    Take that flag too ? .
  • ethos
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    Lmao I did read it wrong, but ? yo flag.

    That's good news tho for the stoppage
  • ethos
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    Where my ? at that put money on broner too? We bout to rob the bank
  • Mastery
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  • Negro_Caesar
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    boxing on espn2 tonight at 12 et