Lord Jamar: Biggie's Hits were West Coast

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  • BenjaminE
    BenjaminE Members Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    achewon87 wrote: »
    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    post a track that sounds similar to juicy?

    What about Mary J Blige and Method Man ....
    in the history of hip-hop im sure there are tons of east coast r&B influenced songs

    We can just use another B.I.G. song, "One More Chance (Remix)" with the DeBarge sample...

    "Juicy Fruit" is pop/funk. The keyboardist is the same one from Parliment/Funkadelic...

    "Big Poppa" uses "Between The Sheets" by The Isley Brothers with a funky worm added to give it that west coast sound...

    That's what it's called! Yea, that ? is unmistakenly west coast...
  • lethal5
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    That Above the Law, Black Superman beat is hard af
  • SELASI_i
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    That was the climate at the time. You'd be hard pressed in today's climate to find a brand new artist without some trap beat influences production wise because that's the vibe right now. 25 years ago it was southern cali's vibe.
  • trendsetta1030
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    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
  • blackgod813
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    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    he a lil better then tim dog kus of flow...but content tim got him
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    He a little better then tim dog kus of flow but content tim got him
  • Weazel
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    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    he a lil better then tim dog kus of flow...but content tim got him
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    He a little better then tim dog kus of flow but content tim got him

    Yeah you might try to be funny and ? all the time
    But you're getting annoying as ? .
  • Ear2DaSt
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    if anything he sounds more like LL Cool J and Heavy D that's east coast ....

    So NYC never did R&B? .... OK
  • Trillaaaaaa
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    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    if anything he sounds more like LL Cool J and Heavy D that's east coast ....

    So NYC never did R&B? .... OK

    LL's beats sounded east coast, Big's beats were undeniably west influenced.

    Im only talking about his main most popular singles, the rest of his music definitely had a NY feel
  • Ear2DaSt
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    People tend to want to go with what Jamar says ....

    but if you feel that way go head ... i don't see it
  • gee757
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    A NY/eastcoast ? (Tupac) was the king of the west so go figure
  • Trillaaaaaa
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    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    People tend to want to go with what Jamar says ....

    but if you feel that way go head ... i don't see it

    Im not going by what Jamar said, I just agree. If other people disagree thats cool
  • KneeGro_DuperMan
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    gee757 wrote: »
    A NY/eastcoast ? (Tupac) was the king of the west so go figure

    You mean MC New York?
  • blackgod813
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    Weazel wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    he a lil better then tim dog kus of flow...but content tim got him
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    Cain wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Biggie made a whole song rapping over West Coast beats. It makes perfect sense. The West Coast sound was selling and Puff wasn't trying to be underground, he was trying to make money.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xZAd2s2Ik

    The audacity of ? 's saying Pac better than Big on the mic LMAO
    He is an it's been proven in 2017 all them lyrics an story tellin don't mean ? if you can't make a song or finesse the beat pac was great at it an still deliver a message Big was wat ya diss now in days a gimmick no message just rap about money ? an how he wanted to be frank white
    He a little better then tim dog kus of flow but content tim got him

    Yeah you might try to be funny and ? all the time
    But you're getting annoying as ? .

    Ok u should block me
  • Weazel
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    I block nobody.
  • gee757
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    gee757 wrote: »
    A NY/eastcoast ? (Tupac) was the king of the west so go figure

    You mean MC New York?

    Tupac never stopped repping NY/eastcoast when he was screaming westside that's y he was rocking jeans & timbs n the hit em up video cuz the og outlawz r Eastcoast.......but the lawz is bicoastal cuz they rep both coast like thug life wit syke being from Cali & stretch was from Queens 1nation...
  • trendsetta1030
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    gee757 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    A NY/eastcoast ? (Tupac) was the king of the west so go figure

    You mean MC New York?

    Tupac never stopped repping NY/eastcoast when he was screaming westside that's y he was rocking jeans & timbs n the hit em up video cuz the og outlawz r Eastcoast.......but the lawz is bicoastal cuz they rep both coast like thug life wit syke being from Cali & stretch was from Queens 1nation...

    You ever though maybe he was mocking it?
  • DR. JEK
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    Can't help but wonder what a Big and Snoop collabo in 95 woulda sounded like over a Dre beat. That woulda been nuts!!
  • gee757
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    gee757 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    A NY/eastcoast ? (Tupac) was the king of the west so go figure

    You mean MC New York?

    Tupac never stopped repping NY/eastcoast when he was screaming westside that's y he was rocking jeans & timbs n the hit em up video cuz the og outlawz r Eastcoast.......but the lawz is bicoastal cuz they rep both coast like thug life wit syke being from Cali & stretch was from Queens 1nation...

    You ever though maybe he was mocking it?

    How? when pac lived the majority of his life on the eastcoast n ny... Pac didn't move to Cali til like 88-89 so makaveli was bicoastal if anything
  • Ear2DaSt
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    When he repped West Side and dissed the biggest east coast rappers at the time .......
  • Lefty_
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    Big said he wanted ready to die to sound like a movie because of the chronic. I think puff an them took that formula and found their niche in R&B instead of those funk records that dre had been using since the 80s.
  • gee757
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    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    When he repped West Side and dissed the biggest east coast rappers at the time .......

    Makaveli said when he was throwing up the W it wasn't really for westside Cali it meant War & there was a Westside n nu Jerzey on the eastcoast n 96...& It makes sense for biggie 2 have a westcoast sound cuz another ny ? pac put him on 2 thug life
  • 5 Grand
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    gee757 wrote: »
    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    When he repped West Side and dissed the biggest east coast rappers at the time .......

    Makaveli said when he was throwing up the W it wasn't really for westside Cali it meant War & there was a Westside n nu Jerzey on the eastcoast n 96...

    2Pac would say one thing on Monday and on Tuesday he's saying the opposite.
  • gee757
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    When he repped West Side and dissed the biggest east coast rappers at the time .......

    Makaveli said when he was throwing up the W it wasn't really for westside Cali it meant War & there was a Westside n nu Jerzey on the eastcoast n 96...

    2Pac would say one thing on Monday and on Tuesday he's saying the opposite.

    Not true cuz not only did pac have nu Jerzey Kat's throwing the W up n 96 repping westside makaveli also had Brooklyn Kat's like buckshot throwing the W up n 96 n Cali repping 1nation!
  • 5 Grand
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    gee757 wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    When he repped West Side and dissed the biggest east coast rappers at the time .......

    Makaveli said when he was throwing up the W it wasn't really for westside Cali it meant War & there was a Westside n nu Jerzey on the eastcoast n 96...

    2Pac would say one thing on Monday and on Tuesday he's saying the opposite.

    Not true cuz not only did pac have nu Jerzey Kat's throwing the W up n 96 repping westside makaveli also had Brooklyn Kat's like buckshot throwing the W up n 96 n Cali repping 1nation!

    Yeah but that doesn't make sense.