2017 NBA Off Season Thread: Draft & Free Agency & Summer League
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Make the argument for kyrie -
Kyrie bakes ? 247.. Wall bake ? in game 6 of round 1 then goes back to being highly above average.
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Kyrie bakes ? 247.. Wall bake ? in game 6 of round 1 then goes back to being highly above average.
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Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers. -
Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers.
? gotta be 12 -
Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »
Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers.
? gotta be 12
Right. You know what? Y'all got it. Walls better than irving lol. -
Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers.
You talking about team success when kyrie been playing with a hall of famer in LeBron and another allstar in Kevin love. Kyrie never been to the finals as the #1 option so I dont even know why you would say that for wall.
Also, if you actually watched Cavs/wiz matchup you would know that kyrie can not guard wall for ? . Especially going to the rim. Wall is stronger, longer, taller, more athletic, etc. These are point guards though and in this age it's hard to guard the other but wall can guard kyrie ALOT better and that's straight eye test over the years. Kyrie be playing matador D half the time when wall dribbling downhill towards the rim.
Last 3 seasons wall has averaged 10 assists per game to kyrie's highest in that time frame being 5.9
5.8 playing with two all stars last year too. (Wall's lowest with lesser teammates was over 7 a game I mean I didn't have to put up numbers to let you know wall is a better playmaker. He's arguably the best in the league next to paul and maybe rubio depending on how I'm feeling.
Defensively wall is far better than kyrie also. W/o being backed up by stat averages theres a reason why the kyrie and IT trade did nothing to I improve either teams' defense at that position. And look at the two way point guard argument the other day...kyrie name didn't even get brought up.
Just like with lillard, the only thing kyrie does better is score and that's cool but people wonder if kyrie can run his own team to this day. Wall been running the show since 2010. Oh yeah and let's not forget who had the best overall playoffs in the East not named LeBron. Let's not forget his name coming up constantly when talking about the 2nd best player in the east. (Even if its not true, know who's name did not come up?)
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Kyrie Irving barley averages 3 more assist than carmelo Anthony........ Do ? need to say more kyrie cool and all foh he's not a better pg than wall
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NCswag's killin these dudes damn
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its....JOHN B wrote: »NCswag's killin these dudes damn
Can't tell if this is sarcasm because of the wall hate or sarcasm because you know he ain't..
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Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers.
Last 3 seasons wall has averaged 10 assists per game to kyrie's highest in that time frame being 5.9 5.8 playing with two all stars last year too. (Wall's lowest with lesser teammates was over 7 a game I mean I didn't have to put up numbers to let you know wall is a better playmaker. He's arguably the best in the league next to paul and maybe rubio depending on how I'm feeling.
This point is irrelevant.Lebron runs the offense kyrie is the scorer his assists #'s will always be lower than walls because they play different roles.
Wall averages higher assist #'s but his teams offenses ranked 7th(highest in his career),20th,22nd
Look at russ this year 3rd in the nba in assists offense ranked 16th.You measure a pg by how good their offense runs
The best "pg's" last year were chris paul,lebron and harden they ran the most efficient offenses while on the floor.Most efficient,more points per 100,higher fg/3 point %'s etc every category.Clippers 5th in offense(clippers been top 5 since paul been in l.a. except one year they were 8th),cavs 3rd,rockets 2nd.Don't look at individual assists #'s they don't tell the whole story. -
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers.
Last 3 seasons wall has averaged 10 assists per game to kyrie's highest in that time frame being 5.9 5.8 playing with two all stars last year too. (Wall's lowest with lesser teammates was over 7 a game I mean I didn't have to put up numbers to let you know wall is a better playmaker. He's arguably the best in the league next to paul and maybe rubio depending on how I'm feeling.
This point is irrelevant.Lebron runs the offense kyrie is the scorer his assists #'s will always be lower than walls because they play different roles.
Wall averages higher assist #'s but his teams offenses ranked 7th(highest in his career),20th,22nd
Look at russ this year 3rd in the nba in assists offense ranked 16th.You measure a pg by how good their offense runs
The best "pg's" last year were chris paul,lebron and harden they ran the most efficient offenses while on the floor.Most efficient,more points per 100,higher fg/3 point %'s etc every category.Clippers 5th in offense(clippers been top 5 since paul been in l.a. except one year they were 8th),cavs 3rd,rockets 2nd.Don't look at individual assists #'s they don't tell the whole story.
You aren't NCswag and im aware of the first point you made when I wrote out originally. Its up to him to dispute it why you butt in you advanced stats ass ?
But wall is an overall better PG than kyrie -
So yall was complaining about a prediction thread but nobody post in it lol
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HustleThaDon wrote: »So yall was complaining about a prediction thread but nobody post in it lol
There's one? -
Like what I've seen from markannanen in sl and eurobasket.Duke like dirk offensively
let the bulls get porter jr that front court will be match up problems -
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I thought IT hip was injured.
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joeyfkncrakk wrote: »Steph
Russ
Wall
...That's the top 3 pg's in the league period, 1st tier
CP3
Kyrie
Lillard
... 2nd tier
Conley
I.T.
Kemba
Lowry
...Tier 3 rounds out the top 10
I'm not arguing Wall over Kyrie I said Period for a reason it's non-debatable imo...
I will say while making this list, I think Lonzo will bump Lowry out the top 10 sooner rather than later... if not this season then definitely by next season -
Make the argument for kyrie
To easy
First of all look at what their teams have done. John wall has not and WILL not ever go to the finals as a #1 oh. Why? He can't take his team to the next level. Why? He can't consistently hit the 3.
I don't even like kyrie and I know boy is the truth. I could keep going in, but this is a light day and you ? must be somewhere trolling or homers.
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Bruh lmaooo.joeyfkncrakk wrote: »Steph
Russ
Wall
...That's the top 3 pg's in the league period, 1st tier
CP3
Kyrie
Lillard
... 2nd tier
Conley
I.T.
Kemba
Lowry
...Tier 3 rounds out the top 10
Switch out wall with kyrie
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Hmmmm, I always felt that mysterious pick of Chicago taking Lauri had to be for some reason... can he be better than Porzingis tho? -
I have a coworker who is a university of Arizona grad and he said this kid is gonna be even better than he was in the NCAA and he is looking like he might be right.
Things are totally different at each level but he sure is showing some things he didn't show at school at this level of competition which is promising.
Bulls might have a player
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joeyfkncrakk wrote: »
Hmmmm, I always felt that mysterious pick of Chicago taking Lauri had to be for some reason... can he be better than Porzingis tho?
Will depend on how he matures Physically. Markkanen is a way better shooter, while KP has better physically tools. Markkanen's floor should be Ryan Anderson.
@Tommy bilfiger Are u confident in Hoiberg to put him in spots to succeed? On paper, his system is perfect for Markkanen, but i thought that too for Mirotic and that was a disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkAX0i8rLZw