I've noticed the serious hatred for KRS-1 for a while...
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Its his ego.
He cant just be happy with being called one of the GOATs.
He wants to tell you he's one of the GOAT, why he is one of the GOATS, and why your favorite emcee is not.
Doesn't Wayne call himself the greatest rapper alive?.....a little hypocritical there homeboy! -
KingdomKame wrote: »Just his unwillingness to not accept forms of rap that don't sound like 80's rap I guess... could be other ? as well.
Its not like I hate KRS, just don;t really like him either
Ddin't KRS praise 50 cent a few years back....a little hyprocritical as well homeboy! -
tompetrez3 wrote: »I never liked him. his delivery is garbage. his skills are overrated. Shan won the battle. The yeah i said it. Kane called him out, G Rap called him out. Craig G bumped into him numerous times ready for a battle and he never stepped to the plate. He was one of the 7 MC that rakim put in that line. He was scared to go at LL. LL was throwin shots at him on Bad album. I was 5 years old and I could tell who he was talking about. Him and D Nice got Scott La Rock killed. Jive records pet monkey and wanna be jew. He stole that revolutionary style straight from Chuck D. "I Dont rhyme for the sake of riddilin" was a shot at KRS. ? didnt like him he's a snob. and when that african medallion ? went south he went underground and had ? ghost writing and ghost producing for him. you had young ? like BCC, Wu, Def Squad shaping the underground sound for the youth of the 90s and this old ass musty dreadlocked ? gonna act like he created "boom bap real hip hop" ? . ? that. He was uncle otis in 1992-1993. Nelly ended his career. ? was so thirsty for relevancy in the new millenium he actually thought Nelly was throwing shots at him. just like with shan he took ? way out of context and caught feelings over it. Shan smashed him. Nelly smashed him. he ducked the juice crew. he not even in my top 100 rappers. i never liked KRS one. his music is boring. he dont have no bangers. maybe love is gonna get cha but thats just because I heard it on a DJ Screw tape. Bridge is over garbage diss song. like i said he dissing women like Jay Z. dissin producers but he aint want no part of G Rap or Kane. What kind of ? legend is that.
The Bridge, ? That Noise>South Bronx, Bridge Is Over
MC Shan, Nelly>KRS-1
I don't believe nothing you just typed from your feminen finger tips.... -
G.R.I.P. Money $$$ wrote: »well for one, he's overrated as ? , all the 80's legends, and yall choose DIS ? !!
what makes him "overrated" and who "chose" him and what do you mean by that? -
KingdomKame wrote: »Same generation praises rakim, big daddy kane, and kool g rap. Why does Krs get left out?
I don't believe in the generation-gap excuse either because they love Birdman:
Let me share some DJ trivia with you:
Birdman & KRS-One both dropped their solo debut's in 1993.
Baby dropped "I need a bag of dope" & KRS-One dropped "Return of the Boom Bap".
The symbolism has enough irony to make you cringe because one rapper became a cultural icon for representing the culture "poor righteous teacher" style and the other rapper became a poster-boy for the super-corporate, mega-capitalist, ultra-consumerist, ghoulishness representing the "hustler-rapper".
Two polar opposites that exist at both ends of the spectrum, one respected as the ultimate hustler who is relevant in 2011 and the other disrespected as an irrelevant ego-maniac. -
I dont take anybody serious who doesnt have respect for the pioneers. And of course somehow its Biggie or Jay's fault that KRS doesnt get his props.
KRS' biggest problem with the younger generation of fans is that he hasnt released much good music since the mid 90's and he's inconsistent with who and what he co-signs. -
G.R.I.P. Money $$$ wrote: »well for one, he's overrated as ? , all the 80's legends, and yall choose DIS ? !!
It hurts to hear you say that because you are an emcee.
We didn't choose Blastmaster, HipHop did.
Don't let Tomp fool you, he ain't bite Chuck D, he switched up because Scott La Rock (Rip) got murdered...besides: By any Means and It takes a Nation came out the same year and same month nobody was allowed to bite back then...plus Tomp talking that African medallion ish when he knows that KRS-One was beefing with X-Clan during the Afrikancentric era. KRS-One never lost a battle hes undefeated.
You say this man is overrated but you fail to understand his album was one of the first politically conscious joints, he was one of the first to "kick knowledge", he started the Edutainment movement, he started the Human Education Against Lies movement, he started the Stop The Violence movement, he started the Temple of HipHop, he has 20+ albums in his discography, he influenced 100's of rappers and tours the world giving lectures on HipHop...so how is he overrated?
Highly influential to emcees like Nas and one of the greatest stage-performers of all time. -
It hurts to hear you say that because you are an emcee.
We didn't choose Blastmaster, HipHop did.
Don't let Tomp fool you, he ain't bite Chuck D, he switched up because Scott La Rock (Rip) got murdered...besides: By any Means and It takes a Nation came out the same year and same month nobody was allowed to bite back then...plus Tomp talking that African medallion ish when he knows that KRS-One was beefing with X-Clan during the Afrikancentric era. KRS-One never lost a battle hes undefeated.
You say this man is overrated but you fail to understand his album was one of the first politically conscious joints, he was one of the first to "kick knowledge", he started the Edutainment movement, he started the Human Education Against Lies movement, he started the Stop The Violence movement, he started the Temple of HipHop, he has 20+ albums in his discography, he influenced 100's of rappers and tours the world giving lectures on HipHop...so how is he overrated?
Highly influential to emcees like Nas and one of the greatest stage-performers of all time.
Dropping the science!!!! Great post -
It hurts to hear you say that because you are an emcee.
We didn't choose Blastmaster, HipHop did.
Don't let Tomp fool you, he ain't bite Chuck D, he switched up because Scott La Rock (Rip) got murdered...besides: By any Means and It takes a Nation came out the same year and same month nobody was allowed to bite back then...plus Tomp talking that African medallion ish when he knows that KRS-One was beefing with X-Clan during the Afrikancentric era. KRS-One never lost a battle hes undefeated.
You say this man is overrated but you fail to understand his album was one of the first politically conscious joints, he was one of the first to "kick knowledge", he started the Edutainment movement, he started the Human Education Against Lies movement, he started the Stop The Violence movement, he started the Temple of HipHop, he has 20+ albums in his discography, he influenced 100's of rappers and tours the world giving lectures on HipHop...so how is he overrated?
Highly influential to emcees like Nas and one of the greatest stage-performers of all time.
180 proof truth....yet somehow the ones that hate him will not agree this insightful post...especially Nelly fans. -
It hurts to hear you say that because you are an emcee.
We didn't choose Blastmaster, HipHop did.
Don't let Tomp fool you, he ain't bite Chuck D, he switched up because Scott La Rock (Rip) got murdered...besides: By any Means and It takes a Nation came out the same year and same month nobody was allowed to bite back then...plus Tomp talking that African medallion ish when he knows that KRS-One was beefing with X-Clan during the Afrikancentric era. KRS-One never lost a battle hes undefeated.
You say this man is overrated but you fail to understand his album was one of the first politically conscious joints, he was one of the first to "kick knowledge", he started the Edutainment movement, he started the Human Education Against Lies movement, he started the Stop The Violence movement, he started the Temple of HipHop, he has 20+ albums in his discography, he influenced 100's of rappers and tours the world giving lectures on HipHop...so how is he overrated?
Highly influential to emcees like Nas and one of the greatest stage-performers of all time.
How ya gonna say KRS never lost a battle when Nelly served his ass with #1? And I aint even a Nelly fan
KRS is just hella cocky and thinks he gods gift to hip hop when in reality that ? aint been relevant in over 15 years? how you gonna diss Nelly talkin bout he bad for hip hop when ya coulda went after any new york ? that was dooin the same thing he was doin? I dont get that? KRS went after Nelly cuz he was a easy target and got served. This new alcohol campaign dont help him either. how you gonna preach and do ads for alcohol at the same time? And dont bring up Rakim in this cuz that was way diffrent -
I stopped reading this thread after the 3rd or 4th post. It's easy not to like him, If you don't understand. I hate his arrogance, delusions of grandeur and what not. But I swear whenever i listen to My Philosophy and just about any song from that album. I become a fan all over again.Boogie down was Banging! He came in the game and commanded respect. With his homeless, destitute background during the height of the ? epidemic. The Paid in Full era. He made the dopest song ever about safe sex w/ "jimmy". He told us about "Illegal Business" before We knew that the Cia Supplied ? to the inner city. Im just gone go ahead and say it. If you aint up on the BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY ALBUM BY KRS1 And Boogie Down Productions, You's a sucka! And your opinion carries no muthafuckin weight at all in this culture that we call HIP HOP.
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Shout out to H Rap for really going into depth about that era. And expanding. Please people! Listen to his early work at least once.He is worthy of every ounce of respect bestowed upon him.
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And Grip Money, You've been around for a while. so I have to respect you as a poster. But please educate yourself about this dude. Because if you truly know then you have nothing bad to say.
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How ya gonna say KRS never lost a battle when Nelly served his ass with #1? And I aint even a Nelly fan
KRS is just hella cocky and thinks he gods gift to hip hop when in reality that ? aint been relevant in over 15 years? how you gonna diss Nelly talkin bout he bad for hip hop when ya coulda went after any new york ? that was dooin the same thing he was doin? I dont get that? KRS went after Nelly cuz he was a easy target and got served. This new alcohol campaign dont help him either. how you gonna preach and do ads for alcohol at the same time? And dont bring up Rakim in this cuz that was way diffrent
i thought bout this n came to the conclusion that if he beefed with someone like ja rule i dont think people would hate him like they do....lol -
I don't like his flow, his music sounds like it's from the early 90's, he's old as ? , he's corny as ? and I don't like positive rap 'cuz I'm a negative ? .
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His flow has always been outdated to me.Kane rakim and a slew of others where more advanced at that time when I think of that raw concious street ? cube n parrish to mind .dude uses his tenure as an excuse for ? comments and statements.rakim doesn't say that wild ? nor does Kane and they have more respect.krs one may be an old head but he is a ? his approach is so heavy handed and tactless it's cringe-worthy.
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H-Rap already came through and crushed this thread so there's really nothing left to do but this...
ALL CLASSICS!
(and i had to stop myself from adding more - p is still free, 13 and good, mad mad crew, a friend, self-destruction, black cop, ...) -
So ? in here caping for MC Shan and Nelly. Ain't that bout a ? ?
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How ya gonna say KRS never lost a battle when Nelly served his ass with #1? And I aint even a Nelly fan
KRS is just hella cocky and thinks he gods gift to hip hop when in reality that ? aint been relevant in over 15 years? how you gonna diss Nelly talkin bout he bad for hip hop when ya coulda went after any new york ? that was dooin the same thing he was doin? I dont get that? KRS went after Nelly cuz he was a easy target and got served. This new alcohol campaign dont help him either. how you gonna preach and do ads for alcohol at the same time? And dont bring up Rakim in this cuz that was way diffrent
You can believe Nelly won if it pleases your sensibilities, I have heard people like you say that Soulja Boy ended Ice-T's career so I'm not surprised.
Is KRS-One more "cocky" than the rappers who proclaim themselves as the greatest rappers alive or deify themselves as ? emcees or Jehovah/Jayhova??
More cocky than the self-proclaimed geniuses and the rappers who crown themselves KONY or King of the South
No KRS-One is not relevant to the radio in 2011 and no other rapper who debuted in 1993 is either, do fans of Rock music bemoan how ? Jagger hasnt been relevant for 20 years or do they recognize his influence and appreciate his contributions to the genre?
KRS-One went after Nelly because of the song "#1" and due to the fact that Nelly was a pop-rapper who wore a band-aid on his face...I don't hear anyone complaining about 50-Cent dissing Ja-Rule.
KRS-One never claimed to be a preacher, so what does that have to do with an alcohol ad? The Teacha can't drink a beer or a glass of wine now??
WoW, Nelly has some rabid fans. -
Disciplined InSight wrote: »It's funny you said that KRS-1 "writing the rules in Hip Hop" yet whenever JayZ does something supposedly "new" his Witnesses think he's doing the same thing....
With the jokes about his humongous nostrils set aside...
So to you it's his music?
See, you already killing a good thread. Jayz has nothing to do with this. On topic, ? hate KRS but at the same time cant name 10 BDP songs. Its asinine. Duke was a lyrical genius in an era where lyricism was all around potent. He earned his right to be arrogant. ? have no knowledge of history, but want to comment on it. ? corny. -
tompetrez3 wrote: »I never liked him. his delivery is garbage. his skills are overrated. Shan won the battle. The yeah i said it. Kane called him out, G Rap called him out. Craig G bumped into him numerous times ready for a battle and he never stepped to the plate. He was one of the 7 MC that rakim put in that line. He was scared to go at LL. LL was throwin shots at him on Bad album. I was 5 years old and I could tell who he was talking about. Him and D Nice got Scott La Rock killed. Jive records pet monkey and wanna be jew. He stole that revolutionary style straight from Chuck D. "I Dont rhyme for the sake of riddilin" was a shot at KRS. ? didnt like him he's a snob. and when that african medallion ? went south he went underground and had ? ghost writing and ghost producing for him. you had young ? like BCC, Wu, Def Squad shaping the underground sound for the youth of the 90s and this old ass musty dreadlocked ? gonna act like he created "boom bap real hip hop" ? . ? that. He was uncle otis in 1992-1993. Nelly ended his career. ? was so thirsty for relevancy in the new millenium he actually thought Nelly was throwing shots at him. just like with shan he took ? way out of context and caught feelings over it. Shan smashed him. Nelly smashed him. he ducked the juice crew. he not even in my top 100 rappers. i never liked KRS one. his music is boring. he dont have no bangers. maybe love is gonna get cha but thats just because I heard it on a DJ Screw tape. Bridge is over garbage diss song. like i said he dissing women like Jay Z. dissin producers but he aint want no part of G Rap or Kane. What kind of ? legend is that.
The Bridge, ? That Noise>South Bronx, Bridge Is Over
MC Shan, Nelly>KRS-1
most of what you said is opinion so i won't dispute it or tell you you are wrong, ? it if you dislike 1 ? u dislike him.
but the bolded part? you should pay more attention.
listen to krs 1's flow and delivery then listen to biggie's flow and delivery
the are 1 and the same. so at the end of the day if you look at this from a benchmark perspective. minus the subject matter krs is to biggie what slick rick/rakim are to nas
and to further expand on the analogy that also extends to rappers big influenced (Jay-z) and the rappers that they influenced
with alotta people that had success and make noise, even if you don't like em, at least see what they mean to the art form/music then respond -
I agree with tompetrez his delivery and flow are horrible to me
And the whole Nelly situation was unnecessary and showed that he was a crab ? -
Who Cares??? wrote: »See, you already killing a good thread. Jayz has nothing to do with this. On topic, ? hate KRS but at the same time cant name 10 BDP songs. Its asinine. Duke was a lyrical genius in an era where lyricism was all around potent. He earned his right to be arrogant. ? have no knowledge of history, but want to comment on it. ? corny.
H-Rap put my point in clear detail in the bolded..that's why I put Jay's name in it. ? hate KRS's cocky and arrogant demeanor, yet...You can believe Nelly won if it pleases your sensibilities, I have heard people like you say that Soulja Boy ended Ice-T's career so I'm not surprised.
Is KRS-One more "cocky" than the rappers who proclaim themselves as the greatest rappers alive or deify themselves as ? emcees or Jehovah/Jayhova??
More cocky than the self-proclaimed geniuses and the rappers who crown themselves KONY or King of the South
No KRS-One is not relevant to the radio in 2011 and no other rapper who debuted in 1993 is either, do fans of Rock music bemoan how ? Jagger hasnt been relevant for 20 years or do they recognize his influence and appreciate his contributions to the genre?
KRS-One went after Nelly because of the song "#1" and due to the fact that Nelly was a pop-rapper who wore a band-aid on his face...I don't hear anyone complaining about 50-Cent dissing Ja-Rule.
KRS-One never claimed to be a preacher, so what does that have to do with an alcohol ad? The Teacha can't drink a beer or a glass of wine now??
WoW, Nelly has some rabid fans.
And yes..Nelly does have rabid fans. -
Ayo it was prolly already posted, but what was the KRS song where he was telling a story and said some ? like " I got nothing, but beans, rice, and bread on my shelf." I just remember that song being ill, but can't remember the name
EDIT: NVM it was Love's gonna getcha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnydK0phSqM
