2 years since Untitled dropped...Iz it Classic..

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  • Neva_Change
    Neva_Change Members Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2010
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Feel you on the bolded... but hey remember dude's hands were tied by the 'suits' on this album and some of the songs on the tape were to raw for main stream consumption


    True. They would never have allowed heat like Cops Keep Firing on that ? . Association was a banger, too. Wish that joint made the album.
  • CJ
    CJ Members Posts: 15,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2010
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    They did not have the power to stop Louis Farrakhan.

    word.............
  • Neva_Change
    Neva_Change Members Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
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    They did not have the power to stop Louis Farrakhan.


    That song was the truth. Nas' rapid-fire flow was sick on that one.
  • CJ
    CJ Members Posts: 15,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2010
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    co-sign i think it deserves it

    albums dont have to be old to be classics

    lol @ kame house
  • therealist_
    therealist_ Members Posts: 3,389 ✭✭
    edited May 2010
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    Nah ..

    Its a great album though.
  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They did not have the power to stop Louis Farrakhan.
    ........................
  • biggar
    biggar Members Posts: 1,190 ✭✭
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    Im a Nas fan but I thought untitled lacked a lot of cohesion. For a concept album it jumped around a lot.

    But I ? with that Sly Fox joint and the Queens get the money joint.
  • RayLY
    RayLY Members Posts: 339
    edited May 2010
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    Not a classic, that word is thrown around waaaaaay too much, I don't know if any rapper has two classics. Classic album = every song on it classic.
    Untitled is a great album, one of the best in past few years.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    RayLY wrote: »
    Not a classic, that word is thrown around waaaaaay too much, I don't know if any rapper has two classics. Classic album = every song on it classic.
    Untitled is a great album, one of the best in past few years.

    That's an interesting point, but I don't like every song on ready to die, but that's a classic to me because as a whole the album great.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    RayLY wrote: »
    Not a classic, that word is thrown around waaaaaay too much, I don't know if any rapper has two classics. Classic album = every song on it classic.
    Untitled is a great album, one of the best in past few years.

    Any rapper has 2 classics?

    Common-
    ressurection
    like water for chocolate
    one day it all make sense

    nas-
    illmatic
    stillmatic
    (soon to be distant relatives lol)

    jay z-
    reasonable doubt
    the black album
    maybe blueprint

    rakim-
    paid in full
    don't sweat the technique

    ice cube-
    Americas most wanted
    straight outta Compton
    death certificate
  • RayLY
    RayLY Members Posts: 339
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    That's an interesting point, but I don't like every song on ready to die, but that's a classic to me because as a whole the album great.

    Sometimes impact of an album can make it classic, just like in the case of RTD. Untitled didn't have nearly that kind of impact.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    RayLY wrote: »
    Sometimes impact of an album can make it classic, just like in the case of RTD. Untitled didn't have nearly that kind of impact.

    I agree with you I don't think unintitled is a classic either.
  • RayLY
    RayLY Members Posts: 339
    edited May 2010
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    Nas, Com, Jay and Rakim are all one of my fav artists, bu all of those albums are not classics, I'm not in a mood to give full opinion why not but now you've given me an suggestion for Jamaica "What does define classic" thread for Reason debate.
  • sickbizzle
    sickbizzle Members Posts: 1,184 ✭✭
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    it's a great album but has too many weak tracks and is a step down from Hip Hip is Dead. i'd more lean towards calling HHID a classic but that's just me. other albums can have weak tracks but the ones on Untitled especially compromise the concept of the album.
  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    sickbizzle wrote: »
    it's a great album but has too many weak tracks and is a step down from Hip Hip is Dead. i'd more lean towards calling HHID a classic but that's just me. other albums can have weak tracks but the ones on Untitled especially compromise the concept of the album.

    Untitled >>> HHID (IMO his weakest album)...
  • georgia boi
    georgia boi Members Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    How was Untitled a concept album? I don't even think Nas intended it to be a concept album. Yes, it has a theme, but that hardly makes it a concept album. It Was Written is more of a concept album than Untitled. There isn't a storyline or concept that ties the songs together. I don't find HHID to be much of a concept album either.

    I don't think Untitled is a classic, but it's easily a 4/5 album. It ranks behind Stillmatic, Illmatic, Distant Relatives, , The Lost Tapes and It Was Written and ? 's Son.
  • detcatinva
    detcatinva Members Posts: 11,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cj012890 wrote: »
    ???????????????????

    only songs i liked were
    you cant stop us now
    breathe
    N.I.G.G.E.R.
    fried chicken
  • JokerzWyld
    JokerzWyld Members Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not with the awful [I]Make The World Go Round[/I]. That ? is completely out of place. Take that out and add a few bangers from the mixtape and it would be definite classic, in my opinion.

    I wish he would've traded that song with Letter To The King on Game's LAX album. That would've supported the theme. But the label needed some tracks for radio and all they had was Hero and Make The World Go Round.
  • Mdizzle9000
    Mdizzle9000 Members, Writer Posts: 8,319 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Untitled >>> HHID (IMO his weakest album)...

    yeah i agree, he was just off lyrically in HHID, and thats the only time i'd say that. untitled is close to classic and easily the best album released that year.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    yeah i agree, he was just off lyrically in HHID, and thats the only time i'd say that. untitled is close to classic and easily the best album released that year.

    I'm mad Carter 3 won the Grammy over unintitled. Smh
  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm mad Carter 3 won the Grammy over unintitled. Smh

    ? a Grammy...
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2010
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    illmatic=5 mics
    it was written=4.75 mics
    i am=4.5 mics
    nastradamus=4 mics
    stillmatic=4.75 mics
    gods son=4.5 mics
    lost tapes=5 mics
    streets disciple=3.75 mics
    hhid=4.25 mics
    untitled=4.5 mics
    distant relatives=5 mics

    its right there with gods son and i am, arguably a classic not a flawless album tho
  • chompollet
    chompollet Members Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2010
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    Its a classic.
  • uaintknow
    uaintknow Members Posts: 93
    edited June 2010
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    Untitled is a great album with a lotta deep songs that get stuck in your head. But there's also some weak songs. HHID has less weak songs but I still consider Untitled a better album because of all the great tracks on it.
  • jay83
    jay83 Members Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Streets Disciple could have been a classic if he took the best songs from both cd's and and kept it to one disk.

    There was way too much filler on there. Especially the ? with Kelis. He could have got rid of all that filler and made a strong 1 cd.

    But thats Nas for you.