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jay is the goat
pac was wack
cam is underrated
rick ross can rap and beat 50
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5th Letter wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »j dilla, jay electronica, joe budden, lloyd banks, wu-tang, lupe's first 2 albums and most 80's artists are GROSSLY overrated, doesnt mean i dont respect em tho.
after 50 first 2 albums, g-unit aint ? w/o young buck
fab has more than one good album
takeover>ether, just sounds better to me.
in 08-09 soulja boy was spittin(or tryin to at least)
nakia shine has good tracks
memphis and the sip have contributed more to hip hop than u think
hip hop elitists are whats wrong with hip hopCashmoneyDux wrote: »Good Music ≠ Lyricism
How are the bolded overrated? But I do agree with you about the underlined.
people act like they are the greatest thing, i take a listen and its not wack but its ehh, i have several songs i like by each one u bolded accept jay e. but i never saw the hype with em, for example people act like food and liquor one of the greatest albums in hip hop history, i take a listen and barely make it thru. people act like banks a phenomenal lyricist. i listen, i hear solid ? , but not greatness. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »j dilla, jay electronica, joe budden, lloyd banks, wu-tang, lupe's first 2 albums and most 80's artists are GROSSLY overrated, doesnt mean i dont respect em tho.
after 50 first 2 albums, g-unit aint ? w/o young buck
fab has more than one good album
takeover>ether, just sounds better to me.
in 08-09 soulja boy was spittin(or tryin to at least)
nakia shine has good tracks
memphis and the sip have contributed more to hip hop than u think
hip hop elitists are whats wrong with hip hopCashmoneyDux wrote: »Good Music ≠ Lyricism
How are the bolded overrated? But I do agree with you about the underlined.
people act like they are the greatest thing, i take a listen and its not wack but its ehh, i have several songs i like by each one u bolded accept jay e. but i never saw the hype with em, for example people act like food and liquor one of the greatest albums in hip hop history, i take a listen and barely make it thru. people act like banks a phenomenal lyricist. i listen, i hear solid ? , but not greatness.
What's the turn off though? Is it the production or the subject matter? Or the accents?
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Banks is a phenomenal lyricist. He's a lyricist but his niche is mainly punchlines. -
Nas ruined distant relatives
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5th Letter wrote: »
On here that'll get disputed far more than you think. Southern posters and young ? .housemouse wrote: »Overall, '90s hip hop was the best. Especially '90s New York / East Coast hip hop. Then again, I don't know much about hip hop from this decade.
I'm gon nosign you for comin into a thread about unpopular hip hop opinions and then stating a clearly popular opinion just so you can get a bunch of cosigns and ? as if you revealing some kind of brutal and honest truth.
wrong, i believe majority of people on here have great respect for 90's rap music, wouldnt put an especially on east coast. it was greatness all over..
at least for me anyways. just cuz we not stuck in the 90's ass ? dont mean we dont love what the 90's put out -
5th Letter wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »j dilla, jay electronica, joe budden, lloyd banks, wu-tang, lupe's first 2 albums and most 80's artists are GROSSLY overrated, doesnt mean i dont respect em tho.
after 50 first 2 albums, g-unit aint ? w/o young buck
fab has more than one good album
takeover>ether, just sounds better to me.
in 08-09 soulja boy was spittin(or tryin to at least)
nakia shine has good tracks
memphis and the sip have contributed more to hip hop than u think
hip hop elitists are whats wrong with hip hopCashmoneyDux wrote: »Good Music ≠ Lyricism
How are the bolded overrated? But I do agree with you about the underlined.
people act like they are the greatest thing, i take a listen and its not wack but its ehh, i have several songs i like by each one u bolded accept jay e. but i never saw the hype with em, for example people act like food and liquor one of the greatest albums in hip hop history, i take a listen and barely make it thru. people act like banks a phenomenal lyricist. i listen, i hear solid ? , but not greatness.
What's the turn off though? Is it the production or the subject matter? Or the accents?
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Banks is a phenomenal lyricist. He's a lyricist but his niche is mainly punchlines.
it depends, for example with lupe its the production and to me it feels like he's preaching. dont take that as me not comprehending his message, thats the easy part, i just dont wanna be bored with it. ill rather replay ? bad or lambo angels over most of food and liquor, with someone like banks people act like he has mind blowing punches and multis, ive heard guys like fab, cass, even buddens spit better, speaking of buddens, i just cant get into his songs like that. people say mood musik is such greatness, ion hear it. believe it or not the accents and where they are from really have nothing to do with it for me. -
Biggie was perfect for the time he dropped. He wouldn't be held as high musically if he dropped his debut today.
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »
On here that'll get disputed far more than you think. Southern posters and young ? .housemouse wrote: »Overall, '90s hip hop was the best. Especially '90s New York / East Coast hip hop. Then again, I don't know much about hip hop from this decade.
I'm gon nosign you for comin into a thread about unpopular hip hop opinions and then stating a clearly popular opinion just so you can get a bunch of cosigns and ? as if you revealing some kind of brutal and honest truth.
wrong, i believe majority of people on here have great respect for 90's rap music, wouldnt put an especially on east coast. it was greatness all over..
at least for me anyways. just cuz we not stuck in the 90's ass ? dont mean we dont love what the 90's put out
I've seen the opinions on here. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »j dilla, jay electronica, joe budden, lloyd banks, wu-tang, lupe's first 2 albums and most 80's artists are GROSSLY overrated, doesnt mean i dont respect em tho.
after 50 first 2 albums, g-unit aint ? w/o young buck
fab has more than one good album
takeover>ether, just sounds better to me.
in 08-09 soulja boy was spittin(or tryin to at least)
nakia shine has good tracks
memphis and the sip have contributed more to hip hop than u think
hip hop elitists are whats wrong with hip hopCashmoneyDux wrote: »Good Music ≠ Lyricism
How are the bolded overrated? But I do agree with you about the underlined.
people act like they are the greatest thing, i take a listen and its not wack but its ehh, i have several songs i like by each one u bolded accept jay e. but i never saw the hype with em, for example people act like food and liquor one of the greatest albums in hip hop history, i take a listen and barely make it thru. people act like banks a phenomenal lyricist. i listen, i hear solid ? , but not greatness.
What's the turn off though? Is it the production or the subject matter? Or the accents?
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Banks is a phenomenal lyricist. He's a lyricist but his niche is mainly punchlines.
it depends, for example with lupe its the production and to me it feels like he's preaching. dont take that as me not comprehending his message, thats the easy part, i just dont wanna be bored with it. ill rather replay ? bad or lambo angels over most of food and liquor, with someone like banks people act like he has mind blowing punches and multis, ive heard guys like fab, cass, even buddens spit better, speaking of buddens, i just cant get into his songs like that. people say mood musik is such greatness, ion hear it. believe it or not the accents and where they are from really have nothing to do with it for me.
Perfect example of the subjectivity I speak on at times. I think Lupe's production is fine and I don't think he's preachy. If you think Lupe is preachy then you really could either take him or leave him. I don't think anyone thinks Banks is that great of a lyricist he's great with his wordplay and he has dope punchlines. -
It was written>illmatic
Jeezy is a fraud
Kanye is really a genius
Ja rule music was pretty good
Wutang collectively overrated
Master P is a legend
Jay Z is a product of more luck then talent
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Nobody in the south was checkin for Jay Z until he did Big Pimpin with UGK
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guru was wack and only sounded nice because he was rapping over premo beats.
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Yeeeeeaah lemme leave this thread...
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housemouse wrote: »Overall, '90s hip hop was the best. Especially '90s New York / East Coast hip hop. Then again, I don't know much about hip hop from this decade.
I'm gon nosign you for comin into a thread about unpopular hip hop opinions and then stating a clearly popular opinion just so you can get a bunch of cosigns and ? as if you revealing some kind of brutal and honest truth.
Calm the ? down. I wasn't expecting anything nor did I care what reactions I'd get. I was stating a subjective preference. You think I thought I was revealing some "brutal and honest truth"? What the hell is that supposed to mean?at least for me anyways. just cuz we not stuck in the 90's ass ?
Shots fired at Ubuntu? I like what I like.
But like I said, I haven't listened to a lot of hip hop from this decade so I'm open to recommendations, from both of you. -
guru was wack and only sounded nice because he was rapping over premo beats.
Wait a sec. Guru might not be in your top 10. He's not in mine but I can't call him "wack". Overrated? Possibly but he definitely wasn't wack.
1. Words I Manifest
2. Just to Get A Rep
3. DWYCK
4. Jazz Thing
5. Down the Backstreets
6. Code of The Streets
7. Mass Appeal
8. The ? Remains
9. You Know My Steez
10. Skillz
I'm not gonna waste your time but pick any 3 of those songs and listen to them. Guru's not "wack" he might be a lil boring at times but he's never made a wack album.
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Curren$y is one of the best in the game today.
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W.A.R. = Internal Affairs>>> PTSD>>> Desire
Crooked>>> Budden>>> Joell = Royce (as a group)
Budden=Royce>Joell >>> Crooked (solo)... >>>>>>>> Em
Can't stand Wale on or off the mic...
DJ Mustard sucks...
I would smash Jill Scott and Marsha Ambrosia in a big ol' vat of green jello at the same time, no ? given... No.
Jay Rock>Kendrick>>> Q>Everyone else on TDE>>>>>> Ab-Soul
With that said, ? Don't ? My Vibe is madd overrated and so is Backseat Freestyle...
GKMC>>>The Cold Vein
GKMC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Control System
Masta Killah and Killah Priest are top tier Wu...: I don't ? with the Wu so I can't comment
50 Cent>>Game>=Lloyd Banks>>Buck >> Everyone Else on G-Unit (yes, even Shawty Lo)>Tony Yayo>Hot Rod>>>>Kidd Kidd
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CashmoneyDux wrote: »W.A.R. = Internal Affairs>>> PTSD>>> Desire
Crooked>>> Budden>>> Joell = Royce (as a group)
Budden=Royce>Joell >>> Crooked (solo)... >>>>>>>> Em
Can't stand Wale on or off the mic...
DJ Mustard sucks...
I would smash Jill Scott and Marsha Ambrosia in a big ol' vat of green jello at the same time, no ? given... No.
Jay Rock>Kendrick>>> Q>Everyone else on TDE>>>>>> Ab-Soul
With that said, ? Don't ? My Vibe is madd overrated and so is Backseat Freestyle...
GKMC>>>The Cold Vein
GKMC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Control System
Masta Killah and Killah Priest are top tier Wu...: I don't ? with the Wu so I can't comment
50 Cent>>Game>=Lloyd Banks>>Buck >> Everyone Else on G-Unit (yes, even Shawty Lo)>Tony Yayo>Hot Rod>>>>Kidd Kidd
Some people prefer red jello... I won't judge... -
CashmoneyDux wrote: »W.A.R. = Internal Affairs>>> PTSD>>> Desire
Crooked>>> Budden>>> Joell = Royce (as a group)
Budden=Royce>Joell >>> Crooked (solo)... >>>>>>>> Em
Can't stand Wale on or off the mic...
DJ Mustard sucks...
I would smash Jill Scott and Marsha Ambrosia in a big ol' vat of green jello at the same time, no ? given... No.
Jay Rock>Kendrick>>> Q>Everyone else on TDE>>>>>> Ab-Soul
With that said, ? Don't ? My Vibe is madd overrated and so is Backseat Freestyle...
GKMC>>>The Cold Vein
GKMC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Control System
Masta Killah and Killah Priest are top tier Wu...: I don't ? with the Wu so I can't comment
50 Cent>>Game>=Lloyd Banks>>Buck >> Everyone Else on G-Unit (yes, even Shawty Lo)>Tony Yayo>Hot Rod>>>>Kidd Kidd
Some people prefer red jello... I won't judge...
Lol. Jello is pork intestines. -
Lol. Jello is pork intestines.
I would smash Jill Scott and Marsha Ambrosia in a big ol' vat of green pork intestines at the same time, no ? given... and then eat the pork intestines... -
guru was wack and only sounded nice because he was rapping over premo beats.
this. I argue with my friend about this all the time -
housemouse wrote: »Overall, '90s hip hop was the best. Especially '90s New York / East Coast hip hop. Then again, I don't know much about hip hop from this decade.
I'm gon nosign you for comin into a thread about unpopular hip hop opinions and then stating a clearly popular opinion just so you can get a bunch of cosigns and ? as if you revealing some kind of brutal and honest truth.
Calm the ? down. I wasn't expecting anything nor did I care what reactions I'd get. I was stating a subjective preference. You think I thought I was revealing some "brutal and honest truth"? What the hell is that supposed to mean?at least for me anyways. just cuz we not stuck in the 90's ass ?
Shots fired at Ubuntu? I like what I like.
But like I said, I haven't listened to a lot of hip hop from this decade so I'm open to recommendations, from both of you.
lol nah. general statement honestly. -
In terms of song structure, ScHool boy Q is the best in the game right now
Schoolboy Q's flow is top 3 in the game along side kendrick and Asap rocky
Raekwon=or > ghostface
bar for bar Bun B is overall the goat southern rapper
Big sean> drake lyrically
Jcole is overrated in all areas of rap and forest hill drive was trash
kanye is top 5 doa and has been more impactful to rap music than Biggie,Eminem and possibly Jay
Danny brown is criminally underrated. Better than most rappers today. -
This thread wild as ?
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nickel-us P wrote: »Curren$y is one of the best in the game today.
Hi-? -larious !!!
