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  • kingblaze84
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    janklow wrote: »
    Whoa, I never said America would be so bad in a few years we'd be living like Mad Max
    so i've got all these guns and dune buggies for nothing? lame

    Hey, check out what CNN.com said, America is heading for a financial cliff. Keep stocking on the ammo and dune buggies man, you'll likely need them, sooner than you may expect. I'm mad I'm only armed with a couple of butcher knives and an icepick.
  • kingblaze84
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    So the answer to yalls problem is being stubborn and easily submissive.


    Let the white speak out and have all of the say while we sit back and complain about things we can actually help. And you guys r aware that Bush and Cheney actually put in place some good ass laws right?...or r u just buying into the propaganda yourselves?


    Black Americans may still be going thru a Cold War but that's no reason to give the easy 'W' to our oppressors.

    Romney is worse, if that's what you're trying to say, but Obama hasn't exactly been a liberator either.....more Black people have been locked up for minor drug offenses under Obama than even under George W Bush's reign. By hundreds of thousands more. What does that tell you? Whose side is Obama on? Aside from the ? vote of course lol
  • kingblaze84
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    ^^^Because Obama is a ? made coward and refuses to create change by at least supporting the decriminalization of marijuana. Something that would create jobs, revenue, and help lower the prison population, thereby saving money. One poll shows 56% of American voters now support decriminalizing or legalizing marijuana, but Obama has his ? so far up the ass of pharmaceutical companies, he won't support real change. Cops are hard ? when it comes to our youth, but Obama is giving them ammunition by not changing drug policy. SMFH
  • A.J. Trillzynski
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    aye ya'll - vote Obama so my stocks can stay going up and i can keep making this money.

    thanks
  • kingblaze84
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    I feel u, I wish weed was decriminalized too. That's still not going to stop Cops, Lawyers, Judges, and Politicians from not giving a ? about "our best interests".


    U can't hold Obama as the root of your dislike for Politucians and Presidents. Obama is the closet thing we'll have to a great President in this day and age, if u believe otherwise you aren't paying attention and you're one of those "super-semi experts" Doctor Dre was talking about earlier.


    If u want results then ? /kidnap your local Politicians by the bundle. But you're probably too lazy to actually do something about your life.

    Me lazy? Never. I work for a high powered law firm and make good money, have fun with my life and all that. It doesn't change the fact that I'm still disappointed in the "change" that was supposed to happen, especially when there is a president in the White House who isn't much of a fighter these days. It's one thing to be a president held hostage by Congress, it's another when one is a president and doesn't fight hard for what he believes. And the things he DOES believe in, like neverending wars and no change in drug policy, proves Cornel West right when he says Obama is nothing more than a slave to corporate interests, which is very true.And when he does fight, he backs down like a ? every time. As far as kidnapping and killing politicians, I won't state my true feelings on that subject, for obvious reasons. But believe me, if I had a red button to push, most of Washington DC would disappear tonight. TRUST!!!!
  • kingblaze84
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    And if Obama is the closest thing we have to a great president these days, I can't move away from this country fast enough.......I'm counting my dollars closely so I can move away by the time I retire. My boss says this every day....
  • CottonCitySlim
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    You guys are idiots, the president is not the problem its the house and senate thats the problem and since they are state elected..we will always have problems because most people ignore state elections
  • kingblaze84
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    You ? r so petrified that u can't tell a good thing when u c it. How come white people can Mobb up but black people and Latin people can't (we're 94 million deep)?


    Y'all don't realize the tricks being played onto y'all thru the media and these little news articles here n there like the 1 thread on here on this first page talking about AfriCOM, it's little ? like that that distorts everything. Fact of the matter is y'all couldn't tell me 10 specific things (without googling them) that Obama has done Good and done Bad but yet y'all have all of this displaced criticism about him and don't really know the job of the President. You should be ? at Congress but yet you ? at the President when he doesn't really have ? to do with 70% of the ? u bit h about. That's about as "cut n dry" as I can be

    What good thing LMAO
    You ? r so petrified that u can't tell a good thing when u c it. How come white people can Mobb up but black people and Latin people can't (we're 94 million deep)?


    Y'all don't realize the tricks being played onto y'all thru the media and these little news articles here n there like the 1 thread on here on this first page talking about AfriCOM, it's little ? like that that distorts everything. Fact of the matter is y'all couldn't tell me 10 specific things (without googling them) that Obama has done Good and done Bad but yet y'all have all of this displaced criticism about him and don't really know the job of the President. You should be ? at Congress but yet you ? at the President when he doesn't really have ? to do with 70% of the ? u bit h about. That's about as "cut n dry" as I can be

    I can't tell a good thing when I see it?? LMAO what the ? are you smoking homie? You think spending billions a week in Afghanistan while American cities, social programs, and infrastructure is going bankrupt A GOOD THING??

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funny post man....funny post. Obama is a bloodthirsty warmonger that has sold his soul to weapon and resource grabbing companies that want neverending wars. How the ? is that a good thing??

    Many, if not most, Democrats in the Senate and the House for the most part oppose the war in Afghanistan, and would have helped fight with Obama to end the wars but bloodthirsty Obama wants to stay in Afghanistan until 2024 LMAO.......how is this a good thing? Obama sucks as a president until you can prove to me otherwise.
  • kingblaze84
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    ^^^ Bingo ^^^


    The fact IS that most people don't know, don't care, or what goes on in Elections. That might be a "funny" but it's not funny (its very oppressing actually). Too many of u dumb ? r too lazy to Google ? that's more than 5 letters

    Please man, Obama is a failed president in so many ways it's not even funny, if he TRULY wants to help the economy improve, he would let states operate medicinal marijuana shops and create thousands upon thousands of jobs but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. ? made Obama wants to crackdown on medicinal marijuana shops, all because pharmaceutical companies don't want the competition. Obama has had petitions handed to him by tons of Democrats and independents such as myself, asking him to tell the Department of Justice to stop the raids, but Obama, being a ? made ? and all, refuses to budge.

    And yeah, Obama lost the House in 2010, guess why?? Because Americans didn't see any change, Obama should have taken advantage of the massive support and goodwill he had in 2009 and 2010, but Obama didn't do ? except promise to stay in Afghanistan a lot longer and......man I can't even think of much else he did, except bail out rich companies with tax payer dollars while giving crumbs to the middle and working class. ? aren't having Obama's back like they used to because Obama has been a huge disappointment, he extended the Bush tax cuts and sucks so much Republican ? he's actually governed like one.
  • kingblaze84
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    MobTown wrote: »
    You guys are idiots, the president is not the problem its the house and senate thats the problem and since they are state elected..we will always have problems because most people ignore state elections

    Obama has the power to tell the Department of Justice to end the raids against medical marijuana shops, but he hasn't done so. This would improve the economy dramatically, because if states and businesses wouldn't be threatened so much by the federal govt, they would flourish and create hundreds of thousands of jobs nationwide. There have been studies on this. Obama is a coward for refusing to do this.

    Obama WANTS America to keep spending endless tax dollars in Afghanistan, despite American cities like Detroit and tons of others going bankrupt. Obama has become part of the problem, and he is indeed a big problem at this point, not as big a problem as Republicans but still a problem. Obama gets hate cuz he doesn't fight like he used to, and when he does fight for something, he backs down like a ? , such was the case with the Bush tax cuts. I want a warrior as president, not a little ? who governs like a half assed Republican. Obama would get my vote in November if he at least had ? and fought for the right thing. But Obama is a ? , with a capital P. Straight ? .

    To win support in my case, fighting to end the wasteful war in Afghanistan, never extending the Bush tax cuts to begin with, and telling the Department of Justice to end the raids against medical marijuana. Even if he would have failed at these things, if he at least HAD ? to fight for these things, he would have my respect back. OH, and guess what??

    Most Americans support an end to the Afghan war. Most Americans support medical marijuana, which would create hundreds of thousands of jobs if it wasn't being so persecuted. And most Americans disapproved of Obama extending the Bush tax cuts, which further bankrupted the country.
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    Adding Up the Government’s Total Bailout Tab

    Beyond the $700 billion bailout known as TARP, which has been used to prop up banks and car companies, the government has created an array of other programs to provide support to the struggling financial system. Through April 30, the government has made commitments of about $12.2 trillion and spent $2.5 trillion — but also has collected more than $10 billion in dividends and fees. Here is an overview, organized by the role the government has assumed in each case.







    The Government as Investor

    Commited $9.0 trillion

    Spent: $1.6 trillion

    Includes direct investments in financial institutions, purchases of high-grade corporate debt and purchases of mortgage-backed securities issued by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.



    The Government as Insurer

    Commited $1.7 trillion

    Spent: $330 billion

    Includes insuring debt issued by financial institutions and guaranteeing poorly performing assets owned by banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.



    The Government as Lender

    Commited $1.4 trillion

    Spent: $528 billion

    A significant expansion of the government's traditional overnight lending to banks, including extending terms to as many as 90 days and allowing borrowing by other financial institutions.





    Money market funds The Treasury originally guaranteed these accounts up to $50 billion, but the program has been extended by the Fed, which has in a few cases had to step in to buy illiquid assets of some funds to help them meet obligations. The Treasury has received $814 million in fees from participating mutual funds. Some 1,900 funds are participating.


    Committed: $3 trillion

    Spent: $4 billion





    Commercial paper The Federal Reserve has become the buyer of last resort in the $1.6 trillion commercial paper market.


    Commited $1.6 trillion

    Spent $178 billion





    Federal Home Loan Bank securities The Treasury and the Federal Reserve have begun buying debt and mortgage-backed securities from Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.


    Commited $1.5 trillion

    Spent $641 billion





    Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility (TALF) This program, launched on March 3, will provide loans and accept securities backed by consumer and small-business loans as collateral. Note: $100 billion of the total amount committed comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


    Commited $900 billion

    Spent $5 billion





    Public-private investment fund The Treasury announced details of this program on March 23. The government will seek private investors and use a combination of private and public money to buy nonperforming assets from banks. Note: $100 billion of the total amount committed comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


    Commited up to $900 billion

    Spent $0 billion





    Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) | See TARP recipients » In return for bailout cash, the Treasury now owns stock in hundreds of banks, General Motors, Chrysler and the insurer A.I.G. The largest recipients are A.I.G. ($70 billion), Bank of America ($45 billion) and Citigroup ($45 billion cash and $5 billion in support of a loan guarantee). The investments are in the form of preferred stock that pays quarterly dividends, which to date total $2.5 billion.


    Commited $700 billion

    Spent $645 billion




    Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac The companies were put into conservatorship and the Treasury initally pledged up to $200 billion to cover their losses. Freddie Mac has now received almost $45 billion and Fannie Mae $15 billion.


    Commited $400 billion

    Spent $60 billion





    A.I.G. The Federal Reserve has provided seed money to create investment vehicles to buy, hold and possibly dispose of bad securities held or insured by A.I.G.


    Commited $53 billion

    Spent $42 billion





    Bear Stearns The Federal Reserve bought distressed assets from Bear Stearns to facilitate its sale to JPMorgan Chase.


    Commited $29 billion

    Spent $29 billion





    Reserve U.S. Government Fund Despite the name, this was a private fund, not part of the government. It was the first big money market fund to experience liquidity problems, and the Treasury eventually bought some high-quality assets to help the fund unwind.


    Commited $4 billion

    Spent $2 billion
    This is what we have promised to spend and then spent so far as of last year $2,397,700,000,000, that translate to a rebate of almost $21,000 each household could have received which would have stemmed the recession/mortgage crisis and spurred buying(automobiles included) and if we factor in what has been commited over $105,000 per household could be spent helping the people rather then filling corporate pockets which again in the end would have kept those companies in business without the need for company bailouts...
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    It sounds like your only beef with Obama is Weed and the war overseas that he's helped calm down dramatically. If you're a Crip and you're beef is with a set down the street that's been ? with u for quite sometime then it's just not going to stop overnight. A lot of people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.


    Now while I share the same sediments about Weed (not medical marijuana that you're trying to pass it off as just to sound more intelligent and intellectual), its not the deciding factor for Me and Most People in the election of 2012. Talking as if Mitt Romney (the real life only other Candidate to vote for) will do any better is histerical.

    while I share the same beliefs in a lot of cases as he who you directed this quote to I realize it was not for me but I will adress it in part. What could Mitt do worse then Obama? The case has been made by multiple people in this thread that the Pres does not have real power to effect change that lies in the House and and Senate. With that being the case if I am not mistaken Romney was a successful former CEO before he became a Governor. All of that sounds like he has more experience in regards to fiscal management then Obama who was simply a lawyer before becoming a senator. So again what would Romney make Worse with his experience? That said both canidates are trash in different areas and Ron Paul would be the better choice if the system had any type equal representation for all parties. But sadly both canidates will continue the same agendas of big corporate(just different Corps) as they are 2 sides of the same coin...
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    Becuz Romney only wants the Win, Barack wanted to be President.

    I know what you're saying but his business experience is being overrated. I ? ? for hours but I'm no PornoStar

    But again though the presidency is the Win which Barack wants also so they are chasing the same Dream. Right now the biggest issue to me and most others is the economy which contrary to the media spin is not improving. I honestly feel neither canidates policies will do anything to make things better but I can say Romney probaly knows a more about budgeting and meeting the bottom line then Obama has shown thus far. On your other comment only thing preventing you if you have the stamina from being a Porn star is you and filming the act, it is simply a choice like any other...
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    Even tho u pm'd me begging me to change the title of the topic in fear of someone actually telling telling the truth, I'm not going to respond to u by PM I'm going to address it here.


    When u can tell me 10 good things and 10 bad things Obama has done and signed then we can discuss it. Until then you're blindly reaching for something that isn't there and trying to be passé about it isn't gonna get u out of it or make u neutral.


    Like I said, people are SUPERFICIAL about the Presidency of the United States and are really ill informed on the role of the President (aka the Scapegoat). A Politicians main weapon is the ignorance of the people he serves, why, becuz most people don't actually know who they are, what they're for, AND what they actually do. Being a Congressmen is 1 of the sweetest Hustles in the world, the President on the other hand gets blamed for everything everybody else does.


    If u don't know what he's done this past 4 years years and at the same time expected him to have a total 180 on the Economy then you're an idiot and I would love to delegate your district of residency.

    wow what kind of spin dooctor are you???

    I PM'd you about a different thread but here I will post our conversations so there can be no discrepancy...
    SawedOff-N-SkiMask and you


    Soloman the Wise6:44PM

    Hey I wanted to ask you if I could chnge your thread title onDo u really believe that all of these latest election numbers between the Democrats and Republicans? and make it the official2012 election thread then sticky it? I was gonna create a new thread for it but after reading yours I thought the topic line and comments to date would be perfect for the thread. you would keep all thread creation creditas all I would change is the title. Let me Know if not I understand and will just make a new thread...



    SawedOff-N-SkiMask7:18PM

    Please just make a new thread. Thank u



    SawedOff-N-SkiMask7:23PM

    You want the little kids and the misinformed youth to believe that it's a fair ball game in Politics and the White House when it's not even close to that. I'm not down with putting Obama and Romney on the same pedistal becuz u have some kind of agenda against whatever. Maybe if u actually visited Obama's website and read the PDF files about what he's signed then u'd feel the same way. Read a book, analyze, if ur not down with that then miss me with all of that



    Soloman the Wise7:40PM

    Did you mean to message me that last one or was that supposed to be a reply for the thread about Obama's 1st 3 years? as to the rest of it I read Obama's ? it does not impress me neither canidate Impresses me as you can see by my posts. Obama is full of the same ? as Romney he just spews it in different ways if you cannot see that I am sorry for you and the veil you have on...
    that said I see you have some type of agenda, but you do your self a diservice when you are so easily disproven. Weird ? is I do not even get what you are trying to do other then make yourself look dumb and like a sheeple with a twist and turn agenda against anyone who posts facts versus the propaganda you are pushing...
  • kingblaze84
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    Damn, even Obama Girl isn't gonna endorse Obama this time around......says a lot

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-girl-not-excited-2012-won-t-endorse-193610215.html

    ‘Obama Girl’ is ‘not as excited’ about 2012, won’t endorse Obama

    Amber Lee Ettinger, widely known as “Obama Girl” during the 2008 presidential campaign, told The Daily Caller she is “not as excited as I was the last time, that’s for sure.”

    The model-actress became a nationally known celebrity after starring in the viral YouTube video “Crush on Obama.”

    “Barack Obama was definitely the first ‘Internet President,’” she said, describing her experiences during the last cycle as “quite a roller coaster ride.”

    This time, however, Ettinger won’t say if she still supports Obama.

    “At this point I’m keeping that to myself,” she told TheDC. “If I’m not making videos, I’m not sure it’s anyone’s business who I’m voting for this time around.”

    “I think in the next few months it’s going to be very interesting to see what happens,” Ettinger said. ”I’d like to get out there and see what the young voters think about both candidates… I might need to break out my flip cam and take a road trip.”
  • kingblaze84
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    It sounds like your only beef with Obama is Weed and the war overseas that he's helped calm down dramatically. If you're a Crip and you're beef is with a set down the street that's been ? with u for quite sometime then it's just not going to stop overnight. A lot of people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.


    Now while I share the same sediments about Weed (not medical marijuana that you're trying to pass it off as just to sound more intelligent and intellectual), its not the deciding factor for Me and Most People in the election of 2012. Talking as if Mitt Romney (the real life only other Candidate to vote for) will do any better is histerical.

    Goes a lot beyond weed and war lol.....Obama just isn't fighting for change enough in general, too timid and too weak.
  • kingblaze84
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/10/marijuana-decriminalizati_n_1584739.html

    Marijuana Decriminalization: Efforts To Relax ? Rules Gaining Momentum In U.S.

    A survey by Rasmussen last month found that 56 percent of respondents favored legalizing and regulating marijuana. A national Gallup poll last year showed support for legalizing ? had reached 50 percent, up from 46 percent in 2010 and 25 percent in the mid-'90s.

    Medical marijuana helped bring marijuana policy into the mainstream back in 1996, when California became the first state to authorize the use of cannabis for medicinal use. Other states followed suit.

    "It's now politically viable to talk about these things," said Robert Capecchi, legislative analyst with the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based group that supports the reduction or elimination of penalties for medical and recreational ? use. "The public understands that there are substances that are far more harmful – alcohol, tobacco – that we regulate. People are realizing just how much money is being wasted on prohibition."

    Colorado and Washington state will hold fall referendums on legalizing marijuana. A ballot question on legalization failed in California in 2010.

    This month, Connecticut's governor signed legislation to allow medical marijuana there. Last week, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed cutting the penalty for public possession of small amounts of ? .

    Liberal state policies on marijuana have run into conflict with federal prohibition. Federal authorities have shut down more than 40 dispensaries this year in Colorado, even though they complied with state and local law. In Rhode Island, Gov. Lincoln Chafee blocked three dispensaries from opening last year after the state's top federal prosecutor warned they could be prosecuted.

    --Let's see if Obama can get with the program or remain the big Uncle Scrooge as he's been for the last 3 years now.
  • TheIraq
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    Obama is fixing the Economy and taking steps to re-work how it operates (so it favors the people). Mitt Romney is just the next Ronald Regan

    That's a dumb statement

  • kingblaze84
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    Sion. wrote: »
    LOLOL @SawedOff-N-SkiMask

    Fam u wonder why I backed away from this thread ? Never argue with an idiot cuz from far away you can't tell who's who. ? have their minds made up, the truth is in front of them but ? choose to ignore it. Just let them have their pyrrhic victory LOL.

    It's near impossible to have an objective debate about politics b/c almost EVERYBODY has a personal problem with the way a politician does something.

    Obama saved the United States from collapse what else more is there to say ? And instead of praise he gets tomatoes thrown at him from spoiled brats who are mad he had to give Wall Street a bailout to save the whole country, cuz he pulled the troops out and ended the war and more. I bet you the same ? hatin on the man will be the same ? who will vote for him too..... but if you ask them they'll tell you Romney and Obama are somehow the "same" so there's no sense in them voting at all.... RIIIIIIGHT LOLOLOLOLOL.

    Hmm it seems you're just mad that many people out there are disappointed in Obama at this point, to call people who are disappointed in him brats is out of bounds. It doesn't make someone a brat to hate the fact Obama is a bloodthirsty warmonger as Lupe Fiasco said, and bails out Wall Street while spending crumbs on the American public and cities nationwide. It also doesn't make someone a brat for hating Obama's childish position on medical marijuana, something that saves lives and can produce hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not persecuted by the DOJ. The Bush tax cuts also ruined the nation, and it doesn't take a brat to figure that out. These are issues very important to moderates and liberals, but Obama doesn't get it. He and you think people should just accept his positions on these things and stop complaining. That attitude got Democrats to lose the House in 2010.

    It's a position of arrogance, and has costed Obama TONS of goodwill he used to have and will NEVER get back. Not until he thinks outside the box, something he was so willing to do for the ? vote. Hmm....I wonder why......
  • kingblaze84
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    Truth be told and I don't wanna beat a dead horse here but it's obvious you don't know too much about Obama if u feel that way. You also keep proving my point when I said people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.


    This thread is done here. Dissapointment doesn't mean people are going to vote for the other guy when they already know or figuring what he's about. It looks like u don't wanna learn anything and give the President his props on what he's done and has been trying to get Congress to do. But something tells me that you don't care about that, you're a sheep voter. Then again come November you'll smarten up and stop acting out.
    Truth be told and I don't wanna beat a dead horse here but it's obvious you don't know too much about Obama if u feel that way. You also keep proving my point when I said people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.


    This thread is done here. Dissapointment doesn't mean people are going to vote for the other guy when they already know or figuring what he's about. It looks like u don't wanna learn anything and give the President his props on what he's done and has been trying to get Congress to do. But something tells me that you don't care about that, you're a sheep voter. Then again come November you'll smarten up and stop acting out.

    I don't know much about Obama if I feel the way feel? HUH? So Obama isn't a close minded fool when it comes to marijuana and Obama isn't a bloodthirtsy warmonger? Obama also did not extend the Bush tax cuts, further bankrupting the country?

    Am I missing something here? Listen, if you're willing to overlook these things, more power to you. But me and millions of others are NOT willing to overlook them. I guess that's what it comes down to at the end of the day. And come November, I'm voting 3rd party down the line. Democrats and Republicans can all suck my ? at this point, ? them.

    No hope and change = NO VOTE
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    War, Weed, the Economy, The catering to special Interests, and Lying to the Public about what is really going on while throwing up smokescreen discussion on ? that has no bearing on the legitimate issues is where I find myself not feeling Obama. Little sneak moves to further strip the public of its right to not only be informed of problems but to protest against them. Hr347 for example is just one of the many moves made by Barack that shows he does not really give a ? about the people, just his fellow politicians and the special interests that help hold power. So again Obama and Romeney are more of the same ? they are playing the same game on us the people they are just selling slightly different products for the same company...


    Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???
  • bootsy_jenkins
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    Obama is a puppet for the oligarchs and the big corporations. If people really did their research, and stop supporting him because he is a black democrat, they would see that Barry is basically a lying snake oil sales man. Obama is just as bad as Bush.
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    Sion. wrote: »

    Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???


    LOLOL this sentence is riddled with ignorance :( . Show me in my posts where I lied or said anything about Obama's term that wasn't true. The U.S. is the biggest economy in the world, the WHOLE world is watching the U.S., it's part of my job to understand economies all over the world, how they operate and what's happening to them down to the politics.

    Goes to show you tho that I'm not even an American yet I can appreciate what he's done for you country and how lucky you guys are while you are blinded by your own dislike of the man. Comments like that is why I said its hard to debate politics objectively b/c it gets personal. I don't mind tho.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

    If we're gonna debate convince me WHY Obama is bad for the economy BASED on what he's done in comparison to Mitt Romney without trying to downplay my nationality... go on.... do it..... I'm ready lets debate fam !!!

    Given that I already picked apart the bailouts in how they could have been translated into legitmate help for the American People and not just the special corporate interests, Why don't you show with facts not rhetoric how Obama has legitemately helped to institute change that will help the Citizens of this nations currently and for the future. Also it is my hobby that I volunteer to help get people work here in the states done so in 3 seperate states same ? each state which is nothing good on the economic front. Hell I lived in a county in Ohio where the Unemployment rate was @19% and half the town was vacant I see the real side of the spin game the media feeds you foreignors...
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    You got me on the typo ? happens but fam you have to get your reading game up Already in this thread the Unemployment Numbers have been refuted form legit sources where they broke down the spin and change in the way Unemployment is reported back to the general public so that the Numbers appear Lower, ANother point for you fam is the past tense use of "I lived In a County" was not stating it was the whole state specifically I was in Wake County and the Galion Inquirer a Local publication reported the real unemployment rate versus what was being fed to the media this was a few years back(2009) but those I know still in that area have made it clear things have not changed much the area is still dead and becoming more vacant.

    Ironically that same auto industry you say Obama saved is what once supported the area and no longer does so to this day. It is funny you speak on Gas prices when they are over 4 a gallon and keep coming close to breaking 5 a gallon, so while the barrel price is way down the per gallon price is way up yet another way the people are getting ? here. Again there is a big difference in what you foreigners are fed by the media and what is actually happening here with the people. I will give Obama's administration props on their propaganda game as it is off the chain. What is sad is they push through ? like HR347 to strip people of their rights in their information control games so that kats like yourself on the outside never really get to see what those of us here living it should already know...
  • Mister B.
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    B-/C+ for me....maybe a solid B if I'm generous.

    I'm cool with him helping to bring more peace to the world, but he folded alot of times when the Republican played chicken with his ass.....especially on the bush tax cuts and them threatening to "shut down" Congress. They Deebo'd that ? for the first good 1.5 years of his term.

    Plus, he single-handedly destroyed the student loan industry. Trust me, I used to work in one, and that Educational Bill in 2010 put alot of ? out of work.