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The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
I think he meant pure heart and besides he said it was the best way to increase s cells in combination with high battle power. perhaps vegeta did not do it in the best way -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
I think he meant pure heart and besides he said it was the best way to increase s cells in combination with high battle power. perhaps vegeta did not do it in the best way
That may be true, but the explanation still defeats itself. He's supposedly giving his reasoning for why no other Super Saiyans popped up. The reason being that Goku is unique. Vegeta isn't unique though, so if having a gentle/pure heart wasn't the only way, but just the best way, there should have been another Saiyan like Vegeta that found another way. After all, we're talking about hundreds of years.
He didn't need to give that explanation. He could have just left things as they were. -
CashmoneyDux wrote: »MrCrookedLetter wrote: »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_GhpZV40hsI
The Orginial Super Sayain ? , Yamoshi, according to Toriyama
There you go so the next arc is the Saiyan arc. I been told y'all.CashmoneyDux wrote: »MrCrookedLetter wrote: »https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_GhpZV40hsI
The Orginial Super Sayain ? , Yamoshi, according to Toriyama
I feel like Toriyama came up with this explanation solely because of people complaining about how strong the u6 saiyans get out of no where
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Not sure how I feel about him introducing this mechanic into the story, but hey at least it makes sense/explains a lot of stuff...still ? tho
Nah we knew that about Goten and Trunks. The U6 saiyans are interesting tho. I'm sure we'll find out why because the S cell doesn't explain Cabba, Kale or Caulifla getting all these forms so quickly which means there's someone else cuz Caulifla is raw power.
In the full interview toriyama says the reason why goku was the 1st ss in a while bc he had a calmer personality and lived on earth in a calmer environment, which then gives credence to u6 saiyans' asspulls
Having a gentle spirit is the best way to greatly increase one's S-Cells, but most Saiyans have trouble with this, which I think is why no Super Saiyans appeared for such a long time and they became the stuff of legend. However, one can't reach the quantity necessary for becoming a Super Saiyan simply by having a gentle spirit, so a certain amount of battle power is indeed necessary. Looked at in this light, it's easy to see why becoming a Super Saiyan came easy for Goku.
Easy?
I guess he meant since Goku wasn't the one blowin up like a pipe bomb?
Or maybe the old man is just senile. -
Coulda sworn there was the whole pure of heart thing and Vegeta's explanation was that he was pure evil, but whatever. The writing is.... ? it!
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga -
Toriyama's thought process in a nutshell
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OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight.
The ginyu force were not defenseless. Besides that was a fight to the death and saved gohan, krillin, dende life numerous of times. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight.
As far as the stadium deal, goku wasnt taking vegeta serious so he did what he had to do. I would have done the samething goku is a habitual line crosser. -
OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight.
As far as the stadium deal, goku wasnt taking vegeta serious so he did what he had to do. I would have done the samething goku is a habitual line crosser.
So you'd ? hundreds of innocent spectators solely because your rival didn't want to help revive an inifinely stronger fighter, possibly dooming the planet, your family as well as yourself...
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OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight.
As far as the stadium deal, goku wasnt taking vegeta serious so he did what he had to do. I would have done the samething goku is a habitual line crosser.
You'd ? a thousand bystanders to start a fight... and then call GOKU the habitual line stepper.
The nerve of ? mane. -
LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
Toriyama's thought process in a nutshell
Is this a joke about that ? wishing he was white? (super saiyans get blonde hair light eyes and become stronger)
Or a joke because his real thought process is more like a ? hamster running on a crooked wheel?
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I actually like the recon tbh lol
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Idk if I want to see this as an arc tho
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »Idk if I want to see this as an arc tho
I agree no more tournaments. -
sdotcarter111 wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
Toriyama's thought process in a nutshell
Is this a joke about that ? wishing he was white? (super saiyans get blonde hair light eyes and become stronger)
Or a joke because his real thought process is more like a ? hamster running on a crooked wheel?
The latter, bruh. I mean we all should've seen this coming a mile away. The "tori" in Toriyama means bird, hence all his copyrights after Dr. Slump being Bird Studio. Akira Toriyama = bird-brain ass ? . Lol
As far as your first scenario, the Japanese in general wish they were White, not just him. They've been collectively suckin cac ? since we let them bombs off on they ass. -
OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight.
As far as the stadium deal, goku wasnt taking vegeta serious so he did what he had to do. I would have done the samething goku is a habitual line crosser.
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CashmoneyDux wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »OmegaConflict wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yo, that ? is mad stupid. lol And how did Vegeta go Super Saiyan if a gentle heart is necessary. He had anything but that at the time.
Vegeta started changing during the namek saga
You mean after he murdered whole villages of people to get the Dragonballs or before he killed a bunch of defenseless and unconscious enemies that Goku defeated. Vegeta was a scumbag until the Buu saga. And even then, the dude literally murdered a ton of innocent people in a stadium just to goad Goku into a fight.
As far as the stadium deal, goku wasnt taking vegeta serious so he did what he had to do. I would have done the samething goku is a habitual line crosser.
Damn, Shenco even gettin clowned years later in an anime thread of all things. One'd think this would be a safehaven. -
LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »sdotcarter111 wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
Toriyama's thought process in a nutshell
Is this a joke about that ? wishing he was white? (super saiyans get blonde hair light eyes and become stronger)
Or a joke because his real thought process is more like a ? hamster running on a crooked wheel?
The latter, bruh. I mean we all should've seen this coming a mile away. The "tori" in Toriyama means bird, hence all his copyrights after Dr. Slump being Bird Studio. Akira Toriyama = bird-brain ass ? . Lol
As far as your first scenario, the Japanese in general wish they were White, not just him. They've been collectively suckin cac ? since we let them bombs off on they ass.
? you were very disrepectful with that last paragraph jesus christ lmao! -
KnowReasonForPeace wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »sdotcarter111 wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
Toriyama's thought process in a nutshell
Is this a joke about that ? wishing he was white? (super saiyans get blonde hair light eyes and become stronger)
Or a joke because his real thought process is more like a ? hamster running on a crooked wheel?
The latter, bruh. I mean we all should've seen this coming a mile away. The "tori" in Toriyama means bird, hence all his copyrights after Dr. Slump being Bird Studio. Akira Toriyama = bird-brain ass ? . Lol
As far as your first scenario, the Japanese in general wish they were White, not just him. They've been collectively suckin cac ? since we let them bombs off on they ass.
? you were very disrepectful with that last paragraph jesus christ lmao!
I know, but it's the truth so...
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So are we getting a Saiyan arc next season?
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LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
I would watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF031DwMffQ