Why I raise my children without ? .
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Believes ? doesn't exist but doesn't have proof.
Believes ? is real and exist but doesn't have proof.
Same group of people no matter how you look at it.The Prodigalson wrote: »
Damn.
*Puts ? that don't believe in Pink Unicorns in the same category as those who do believe in them* -
Logical fallacies are piling up.
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Hey! You weren't suppose to use that against me and cosign! That's not what I meant!!
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Atheist ? disgust me, if you don't believe in ? that is your choice. Now go sit in the corner and suck your thumb or something, why the ? are you writing books, articles and posting your trash all over the place. There exist no logical reason for atheist to do this other than trying their best to ? off believers.
Atheism is on the list of things that are destroying western society, which may be a good thing. But atheist are so ? annoying. just shut the ? up already , atheism does nothing it inspires nothing it creates nothing. it seeks to strip man of religion but has nothing comparable to replace it.
LOL @ "let believers believe and express themselves" but not allowing non-believers to do the same.
The difference is this belief in religion causes you to do things but atheism has no responsibilities. so you can shut the ? up, In some cases the religious cannot. we have to praise our ? or preform some service to him or the religion. -
Ajackson17 wrote: »Bambi is the type to get riled up and mad cause no one wants to believe in his religion that he created from egyptian, hebrew, bablyonian, persian, christianity, islam, greek, etc. He worst than a street preacher, he comes up when he is not wanted and doesn't want to go back to his hell in which you will go if you believe in any ? that comes out of his fingers.? please......
Don't worry about what the ? I do, ? .....
Your ? ass out here playing for the other team.....
I seen you talking bout you want white grandkids n ? .......
You the worst type ? it is.......
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Logical fallacies are piling up.
well, what ground breaking discoveries could you expect to be find on a message board. I think if we go 10 more pages we can get this flu thing sorted out.
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I never said whether i believed in ? or not...im pointing out the flaws in the argument .@CopperKing
We are humans we can criticize or question anything we want.
The same way you make fun of homosexual or trannies but
When it comes to ? , we need to fall back? Lol, GTFOH
I never told anyone to fall back on their criticism whether it was for or against
Reading is fundamental
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@kai_valya.....
I see you broke your bury posts that make you look stupid virginity as well.......
Internet tough guy......
You would like to ban me wouldn't you??????
Even if you did you cannot erase the ether I poured on your dizzy ass..........Oh great, Bambi is here.
/thread
@VIBE.....
This stupid ? should be in the R&R or donkey anyways you square-head bastard......Ajackson17 wrote: »Bambi YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!! Go back to the depths of darkness from which you inhabit and reside till the age of time passes YOU FOUL BEAST OF IDIOCRACY!!!
And @Ajackson17.....
I already ethered your ? .....
You must have forgot ? ......
I can jog your memory.....
You are the few on this board who had never ether a poster cause you are less intelligent than dro and thats bad. -
Atheist ? disgust me, if you don't believe in ? that is your choice. Now go sit in the corner and suck your thumb or something, why the ? are you writing books, articles and posting your trash all over the place. There exist no logical reason for atheist to do this other than trying their best to ? off believers.
Atheism is on the list of things that are destroying western society, which may be a good thing. But atheist are so ? annoying. just shut the ? up already , atheism does nothing it inspires nothing it creates nothing. it seeks to strip man of religion but has nothing comparable to replace it.
LOL @ "let believers believe and express themselves" but not allowing non-believers to do the same.
The difference is this belief in religion causes you to do things but atheism has no responsibilities.
Wtf are you talking about?
We have the same responsibilites as you.
Atheism isn't destroying anything. -
Gold_Certificate wrote: »
So you're saying that because there is no proof that Godzilla is controlling your every action and desire, the claim that he is controlling you is false?CopperKing wrote: »Gold_Certificate wrote: »
So humans are to be agnostic when it comes to any one of the infinitely-many conceivable concepts that other humans can create?CopperKing wrote: »Gold_Certificate wrote: »
Sure they are yo.CopperKing wrote: »I dont think the human race is advanced enough to be saying for a fact if omnipotent beings exist or not....we still rage war against one another over money and religion
The only thing supporting the claim that "supernatural" beings exist is the claim that "supernatural" beings exist.
If humans applied such circular reasoning to everything, they'd have to be agnostic about an infinite number of claims that others come up with.
If ur not certain of a certain things theres nothing wrong with saying ur not certain..theres something wise in being agnostic instead of feigning proof of non existence
If I say "Godzilla exists and he rules the world from the shadows, controlling your every action and desire; and you can't prove he doesn't.", then is it unwise to rule out such a claim?
If anything, it's wise to rule out fantastical claims lacking in any form of proof or provability.
Horrible example... my actions prove that my actions are only being controlled by me
My actions prove to me that my actions are being controlled by me
Illogical argument -
Ajackson17 wrote: »Bambi is the type to get riled up and mad cause no one wants to believe in his religion that he created from egyptian, hebrew, bablyonian, persian, christianity, islam, greek, etc. He worst than a street preacher, he comes up when he is not wanted and doesn't want to go back to his hell in which you will go if you believe in any ? that comes out of his fingers.? please......
Don't worry about what the ? I do, ? .....
Your ? ass out here playing for the other team.....
I seen you talking bout you want white grandkids n ? .......
You the worst type ? it is.......
You evasive ? , you are stripped and want to hide and throw rocks when you are shown for who you are a crock of ? , but it is okay maybe one day a mab with an eagle head will tell you everything will be alright -
This why I do not talk about religion most people are too immature to discuss such matters and too closed minded to ever agree to disagree.
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I think alot of athiest do want to believe. But they are basing everything on scientifically tangible evidence. Alot of science is just some guy with some degrees and alot of time to ponder and research ? , yet still not coming up with convincing evidence that leans one way or the other. So then they just start guessin and make their guesses popular amongst ppl who think like them. These are theories. A theory has never been proven as fact. So it's just their theory that ? doesnt exist. But spirituality is not cold, dispassionate, limited logic and guesses. It is so much more than that.
I think alot of christians are afraid of athiest, they are afraid it's a possibility that there is alot of truth to what they are saying. It frightens them that the one thing they hold so tightly to and believe in so blindly when everything else is going wrong, could be just another set of lies and fear mongering as a control system. Religion takes your power away from you. It's hard for me to be in a church around ppl who are waiting for someone else to give them the things that ? already put in you, or relieve themselves of the guilt over ? up ? they do sunday after church-saturday
I think as you grow, you begin to question why was this passed down to the MASSES. The same ppl who are responsible for writing the bible, were involved in alot of other ? that goes against the principles in that book. I don't agree with atheist and I dont agree with religion fanboys either. I think they both are too full of self importance and ego, to speak or listen to each other from a non biased perspective. if science and religion collaborated rather than competed imagine how much ? we would discover.
I think like the bolded to. And why does every country still live by the basic laws of the 10 commandments?
The basic laws of every land are based on the 10 commandments....from a story in the bible...
You break the laws of the 10 commandments now...morally or physically...leads to negativity in your life.
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this ? Vibe is a miserable ? ? will pray to a anime character before believing in ?
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Im simply making arguments against flawed logic and posters think i want them to fall back on their beliefs....
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this ? Vibe is a miserable ? ? will pray to a anime character aliens before believing in ?
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*reads thread*
*notices multiple fallacious arguments by even the most knowledgeable of theists*
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CopperKing wrote: »
I never said whether i believed in ? or not...im pointing out the flaws in the argument .@CopperKing
We are humans we can criticize or question anything we want.
The same way you make fun of homosexual or trannies but
When it comes to ? , we need to fall back? Lol, GTFOH
I never told anyone to fall back on their criticism whether it was for or against
Reading is fundamental
You just say "Who cares on what the next man believes."
That implies don't judge anyone on their belief, no? -
@CopperKing
We are humans we can criticize or question anything we want.
The same way you make fun of homosexual or trannies but
When it comes to ? , we need to fall back? Lol, GTFOH
homos and trannies didnt create life so hey, it is what is
? gets automatic respect, that ? made life
Prove your superstition belief -
Life makes life.
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So you're not actually talking about the existence of "? " as Carl Sagan was in the quote you posted?Gold_Certificate wrote: »
You're still moving the goalposts by changing the definitions b.Gold_Certificate wrote: »
By that reasoning, perhaps our definitions for all words are in fact wrong. Because by removing the "supernatural" aspect from the concept of "? "; it becomes objectively disprovable, observable, and measurable. At which point the burden proof falls squarely upon those claiming the concept exists.Gold_Certificate wrote: »
He said "? "; which is a supernatural concept:Gold_Certificate wrote: »
His argument fails because the claim of the "supernatural" is an unscientific one. So by the very nature of the claim, evidence can't be compiled for or against it.i think carl sagan said it the best i've ever heard
"An atheist is someone who is certain that ? does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of ? . I know of no such compelling evidence..."
Such claims don't automatically get a status quo of "true" or "valid" simply because someone comes up with them.
he didn't say anything about supernatural, if the laws of the universe are "? ", the universe is not supernatural. my whole point is, faith is doubt (i know that sounds like one of the phrases from animal farm) and what you choose to make it, at least that's how it is for me. i don't think this is an issue you come to a conclusion on and move on, for me it's a lifelong kind of thing, that is riddled with doubt and questions
i'm not even sold on the realness of ours or anythings existence to be honest. and i find the more i learn the more i realize how much i don't know.
If he was referring to the laws of the Universe, there was no need to use the word "? " in the first place.
That's no better than saying "If this oxygen atom is "the internet", than "the internet" is not technological.".
Defeats the purpose of words having meanings.
perhaps our definition that "? " is in fact supernatural is wrong
Perhaps "pigs" aren't mammals because our definition for "pig" is also wrong; it's a slippery slope b.
the definition is wrong because our understanding is wrong. and when it is the bolded, science is then "? " which works for me
In the bolded you're calling one definition wrong, and with the underlined you're redefining the word.
What's the point of you using the word "? " if you're not referring to what it's defined as or if you're referring to something else such as "science"?
i only use the word in an attempt to explain myself in a way that is understandable, seeing as there really is no word for "? " as far as what i'm speaking of. sorta like trying to translate a word into english that doesn't have a direct translation so you have to use a phrase or something. the boundaries of language prohibit you from not speaking in such a manner. existence and just being (and the rules and laws of it) is what the conceptualized idea of ? is imo
now as far as "? " in the traditional sense, i believe it's a coping mechanism for many in face of the abyss that is existence and the non-existence that is death. these concepts can be terrifying to a self-aware organism, because the unknown is scary. so the alternative religion provides has to be true for their own sake and not it's own sake. -
Exactly. In the same manner that it is illogical to argue that Godzilla is controlling your actions without proof, it's also illogical to argue that "? " or something "supernatural" is controlling or influencing the Universe without proof.CopperKing wrote: »Gold_Certificate wrote: »
So you're saying that because there is no proof that Godzilla is controlling your every action and desire, the claim that he is controlling you is false?CopperKing wrote: »Gold_Certificate wrote: »
So humans are to be agnostic when it comes to any one of the infinitely-many conceivable concepts that other humans can create?CopperKing wrote: »Gold_Certificate wrote: »
Sure they are yo.CopperKing wrote: »I dont think the human race is advanced enough to be saying for a fact if omnipotent beings exist or not....we still rage war against one another over money and religion
The only thing supporting the claim that "supernatural" beings exist is the claim that "supernatural" beings exist.
If humans applied such circular reasoning to everything, they'd have to be agnostic about an infinite number of claims that others come up with.
If ur not certain of a certain things theres nothing wrong with saying ur not certain..theres something wise in being agnostic instead of feigning proof of non existence
If I say "Godzilla exists and he rules the world from the shadows, controlling your every action and desire; and you can't prove he doesn't.", then is it unwise to rule out such a claim?
If anything, it's wise to rule out fantastical claims lacking in any form of proof or provability.
Horrible example... my actions prove that my actions are only being controlled by me
My actions prove to me that my actions are being controlled by me
Illogical argument -
CopperKing wrote: »
I never said whether i believed in ? or not...im pointing out the flaws in the argument .@CopperKing
We are humans we can criticize or question anything we want.
The same way you make fun of homosexual or trannies but
When it comes to ? , we need to fall back? Lol, GTFOH
I never told anyone to fall back on their criticism whether it was for or against
Reading is fundamental
You just say "Who cares on what the next man believes."
That implies don't judge anyone on their belief, no?
Atheism is not a belief its more of a non belief
And im discussing logic....im not judging anyone...get out of'dem feelings and think objectively -
Sesshoumaru is that ? and Yoko Kurama. -
I think alot of athiest do want to believe. But they are basing everything on scientifically tangible evidence. Alot of science is just some guy with some degrees and alot of time to ponder and research ? , yet still not coming up with convincing evidence that leans one way or the other. So then they just start guessin and make their guesses popular amongst ppl who think like them. These are theories. A theory has never been proven as fact. So it's just their theory that ? doesnt exist. But spirituality is not cold, dispassionate, limited logic and guesses. It is so much more than that.
I think alot of christians are afraid of athiest, they are afraid it's a possibility that there is alot of truth to what they are saying. It frightens them that the one thing they hold so tightly to and believe in so blindly when everything else is going wrong, could be just another set of lies and fear mongering as a control system. Religion takes your power away from you. It's hard for me to be in a church around ppl who are waiting for someone else to give them the things that ? already put in you, or relieve themselves of the guilt over ? up ? they do sunday after church-saturday
I think as you grow, you begin to question why was this passed down to the MASSES. The same ppl who are responsible for writing the bible, were involved in alot of other ? that goes against the principles in that book. I don't agree with atheist and I dont agree with religion fanboys either. I think they both are too full of self importance and ego, to speak or listen to each other from a non biased perspective. if science and religion collaborated rather than competed imagine how much ? we would discover.
I think like the bolded to. And why does every country still live by the basic laws of the 10 commandments?
The basic laws of every land are based on the 10 commandments....from a story in the bible...
You break the laws of the 10 commandments now...morally or physically...leads to negativity in your life.I think alot of athiest do want to believe. But they are basing everything on scientifically tangible evidence. Alot of science is just some guy with some degrees and alot of time to ponder and research ? , yet still not coming up with convincing evidence that leans one way or the other. So then they just start guessin and make their guesses popular amongst ppl who think like them. These are theories. A theory has never been proven as fact. So it's just their theory that ? doesnt exist. But spirituality is not cold, dispassionate, limited logic and guesses. It is so much more than that.
I think alot of christians are afraid of athiest, they are afraid it's a possibility that there is alot of truth to what they are saying. It frightens them that the one thing they hold so tightly to and believe in so blindly when everything else is going wrong, could be just another set of lies and fear mongering as a control system. Religion takes your power away from you. It's hard for me to be in a church around ppl who are waiting for someone else to give them the things that ? already put in you, or relieve themselves of the guilt over ? up ? they do sunday after church-saturday
I think as you grow, you begin to question why was this passed down to the MASSES. The same ppl who are responsible for writing the bible, were involved in alot of other ? that goes against the principles in that book. I don't agree with atheist and I dont agree with religion fanboys either. I think they both are too full of self importance and ego, to speak or listen to each other from a non biased perspective. if science and religion collaborated rather than competed imagine how much ? we would discover.
I think like the bolded to. And why does every country still live by the basic laws of the 10 commandments?
The basic laws of every land are based on the 10 commandments....from a story in the bible...
You break the laws of the 10 commandments now...morally or physically...leads to negativity in your life.
If you mean ? like..
- You shall not murder
- You shall not steal
I'm pretty sure that ? was looked down upon before the 10 commandments. It's not like ? had no problem with someone killing them and stealing from them before the 10 commandments dropped on the scene.
"Oh, it's cool, go ahead and take my ? if you want to."
"You want to ? me!?" "aight."
*10 commandments*
"aye ? , put my ? down.."
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