Biggie Smalls or Jay-z
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B.i.GFlow - Jay
Delivery - Jay
Lyrics - Tied (and we know why, smh)
Albums - Big
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JiggaDMTxCannabis wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »Jay-Z would have surpassed Biggie musically, lyrically, and success-wise eventually whether Biggie lived or died.
How do you know this?..
Musically, Jay had Pharell, Just Blaze, Timbaland, and Kanye at his disposal.
Lyrically, Jay was AT LEAST always on par with Biggie. People don't like to acknowledge or entertain the idea because Biggie is dead, but he wasn't any better than Jay. In fact, Jay's flow was always better and people will only be able to recognize how nice he was in the 90's when he dies in the future.
People say Pun and L are overrated because they died, but Jay's overrated cause he's still alive? No, word to Fazeem: Big is put on a pedalstool because of his death. He was nice as ? , don't get me wrong, but he wasn't lightyears ahead of Jay, Pun, L, or Nas lyrically.
Success-wise, I find it hard to believe that Puff would have granted him the artistic and legal freedom to do the type of things Jay was able to do. Speculation, I know but Puff has a proven track record. -
Jiggasoul rattler wrote: »Jay-Z across the board. He would have surpassed Biggie musically, lyrically, and success-wise eventually whether Biggie lived or died.
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JiggaBig is infront 27-22
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B.i.GPurely cause to me, Big the best MC to ever bless the mic
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B.i.GI been in this game for years, it made me a animal
It's rules to this ? , I wrote me a manual
A step by step booklet for you to get
Your game on track, not your wig pushed back
Rule nombre uno: never let no one know
How much, dough you hold, cause you know
The cheddar breed jealousy 'specially
If that man ? up, get your ass stuck up
Number two: never let em know your next move
Don't you know Bad Boys move in silence or violence
Take it from your highness (uh-huh)
I done squeezed mad clips at these cats for they bricks and chips
Number three: never trust no-bo-dy
Your moms'll set that ass up, properly gassed up
Hoodie to mask up, ? , for that fast buck
She be layin in the bushes to light that ass up
Number four: know you heard this before
Never get high, on your own supply
Number five: never sell no ? where you rest at
I don't care if they want a ounce, tell em bounce
Number six: that ? damn credit, dead it
You think a crackhead payin you back, ? forget it
Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood don't mix like two ? and no ?
Find yourself in serious ?
Number eight: never keep no weight on you
Them cats that squeeze your guns can hold jobs too
Number nine shoulda been number one to me
If you ain't gettin bagged stay the ? from police (uh-huh)
If ? think you snitchin ain't tryin listen
They be sittin in your kitchen, waitin to start hittin
Number ten: a strong word called consignment
Strictly for live men, not for freshmen
If you ain't got the clientele say hell no
Cause they gon want they money rain sleet hail snow
Follow these rules you'll have mad bread to break up
If not, twenty-four years, on the wake up
Slug hit your temple, watch your frame shake up
Caretaker did your makeup, when you pass
Your girl ? my man Jake up, heard in three weeks
She sniffed a whole half of cake up
Heard she suck a good ? , and can hook a steak up
Gotta go gotta go, more pies to bake up, word up, uhh
Notorious Big - 10 ? commandments.. -
Man all these vs.-coulda-woulda threads suck....no offense bruh
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B.i.GA big reason to why I voted for Big (pun intended) was this:
http://youtu.be/A8jrCqtbksQ
^^^^ Jay has NEVER spazzed out on a track like this!!! This ? feels like a performance, ? went the ? off! -
JiggaJay's BlackOut verse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>B.I.G. Victory.
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B.i.GGimme the loot
Gimme the loot..
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B.i.GJay's BlackOut verse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>B.I.G. Victory.
Its debatable if he even had the best verse in the ? , Sp went off on that ? , so did Sheek.
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soul rattler wrote: »Jay-Z across the board. He would have surpassed Biggie musically, lyrically, and success-wise eventually whether Biggie lived or died.
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Jiggawe all know Jay better but its the IC so i dont expect him to win on the internet.
he wins at life already -
JiggaWill you Jay-Z fans stop saying that???
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B.i.GBig all day.... Jay bites his lines... big died and all Jay has on him is longevity cuz of that
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Jiggadamn big really pulled ahead of jay
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Jiggainternational wrote: »
No it isn't.
That's like saying he doesn't have the best intros of all time. -
JiggaSo, wait.
Based on this thread.
We can agree that Hip Hop was only good in the 90's???
Because Nas swept Rakim??? -
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B.i.GJay Z bit Biggie's rhymes verbatim, Biggie never bit Jay Z's rhymes at all.
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JiggaMan all these vs.-coulda-woulda threads suck....no offense bruh
Better than those damn LiL Wayne threads taking over -
JiggaJay is on the verge of another L
7more hours till voting is done...
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B.i.Gsoul rattler wrote: »DMTxCannabis wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »Jay-Z would have surpassed Biggie musically, lyrically, and success-wise eventually whether Biggie lived or died.
How do you know this?..
Musically, Jay had Pharell, Just Blaze, Timbaland, and Kanye at his disposal.
Lyrically, Jay was AT LEAST always on par with Biggie. People don't like to acknowledge or entertain the idea because Biggie is dead, but he wasn't any better than Jay. In fact, Jay's flow was always better and people will only be able to recognize how nice he was in the 90's when he dies in the future.
People say Pun and L are overrated because they died, but Jay's overrated cause he's still alive? No, word to Fazeem: Big is put on a pedalstool because of his death. He was nice as ? , don't get me wrong, but he wasn't lightyears ahead of Jay, Pun, L, or Nas lyrically.
Success-wise, I find it hard to believe that Puff would have granted him the artistic and legal freedom to do the type of things Jay was able to do. Speculation, I know but Puff has a proven track record.
In 97, Jay was working with a lot of the same producers as Biggie and anybody on the Bad Boy roster was, so who's to say Biggie wouldn't have had access to those same producers you mentioned?.. hell, he was already cool with Jermaine Dupri (see Big Poppa remix and Da B Side) who produced Money Ain't A Thang for Jay-Z..
I don't think he was lightyears ahead of Nas, Jay and Pun (Jay had better verses on I Love the Dough).. nosign on Jay having a better flow though..
And as far as Puffy goes, he convinced Biggie to take a more mainstream approach with a lot of his songs, but it seems Big's artistic freedom wouldn't have got in the way of what Puff wanted him to do..DJ Premier: Puff didn’t like that record. When I gave him the track he caught me on the elevator and told me, “This is not hot, Preme. I need something more blazin’, like ‘Unbelievable.’” I was like, “That ? right there is hot.” He’s like, “I need a Tunnel banger.” I said, “That’s a Tunnel banger.” He goes, “You ain’t hittin’ it like you used to.” That’s exactly what he said. I thought he was doing it just to ? with me, because that’s when he really started traveling with security. I was like, OK, he just trying to make me feel small. But at the end of the day Puff is my man. Me and him is mad cool despite the fact that he did not like that particular track, and then when we did it I said, “I told you this ? was gonna be hot.” And Puff goes, “I told you I had to hear the lyrics first.” I was like, “Yeah, aight.”
(what Premo had to say on Kick In the Door) ^^..
Plus this ? Biggie was rapping about kidnapping plantiff's daughters and leaving them in Brooklyn basement on his biggest hit.. how much more freedom do you need? lol..
I see what you mean about Puff, but for what it's worth, Biggie planned to launch his Bklyn Mint clothing line before he died.. -
B.i.GBig already showed this ? what's up when he sonned him on Brooklyn's finest
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http://youtu.be/Ka--C2cDaXY
