Lebron puts Dr. J in top-3 all-time

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  • UPTOWN
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    blu197 wrote: »
    Dr.J is a legend but most of his legacy comes from being the first popular black guard/forward and his swag with the fro and ? .... He didnt run the 70s or 80s by any means, but he was the most exciting player to watch at that time (until Magic brought showtime) just b/c he was the most exciting player doesn't mean he was best.. theres a reason his stats dropped about 25% across the board when he got to the NBA, he wasnt a good defender he only has 1 ABA all defensive 1st team award and none in the NBA, he wasnt a good shooter this is guy who took a minimal amount of 3s and shot 29% in the ABA and 26% once he got the NBA, he wasnt a good playmaker just look @ his ast numbers.... So my top 5 SFs are LBJ,Bird,Hondo,Pippen,KD... It's a toss up for the 6th spot between Dr.J and Baylor

    you're a ? idiot tho
  • FlightKing
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    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    Talk to me about Dr. J's jumpshot. Never really see that in the highlight films. Legit statement.

    kinda like the ? who said he got him in his top 3 lol

    Touche. But LeBron's jumper is getting pretty consistent, especially from where he came from. It's not automatic but it's pretty damn good.
  • blu197
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    blu197 wrote: »
    Dr.J is a legend but most of his legacy comes from being the first popular black guard/forward and his swag with the fro and ? .... He didnt run the 70s or 80s by any means, but he was the most exciting player to watch at that time (until Magic brought showtime) just b/c he was the most exciting player doesn't mean he was best.. theres a reason his stats dropped about 25% across the board when he got to the NBA, he wasnt a good defender he only has 1 ABA all defensive 1st team award and none in the NBA, he wasnt a good shooter this is guy who took a minimal amount of 3s and shot 29% in the ABA and 26% once he got the NBA, he wasnt a good playmaker just look @ his ast numbers.... So my top 5 SFs are LBJ,Bird,Hondo,Pippen,KD... It's a toss up for the 6th spot between Dr.J and Baylor

    you're a ? idiot tho

    Prove what I said wrong or ? hoe
  • UPTOWN
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    blu197 wrote: »
    blu197 wrote: »
    Dr.J is a legend but most of his legacy comes from being the first popular black guard/forward and his swag with the fro and ? .... He didnt run the 70s or 80s by any means, but he was the most exciting player to watch at that time (until Magic brought showtime) just b/c he was the most exciting player doesn't mean he was best.. theres a reason his stats dropped about 25% across the board when he got to the NBA, he wasnt a good defender he only has 1 ABA all defensive 1st team award and none in the NBA, he wasnt a good shooter this is guy who took a minimal amount of 3s and shot 29% in the ABA and 26% once he got the NBA, he wasnt a good playmaker just look @ his ast numbers.... So my top 5 SFs are LBJ,Bird,Hondo,Pippen,KD... It's a toss up for the 6th spot between Dr.J and Baylor

    you're a ? idiot tho

    Prove what I said wrong or ? hoe

    how about we just look at your track record
    blu197 wrote: »
    Clyde was Jordan's equal pre-96 if not better cause his J was more reliable than Jordan's..... Jordan had Scottie and Horace grant and great 3pt shooters while Clyde had terry porter and kelsey


    its not even worth discussing with you because you dont even know ?

    LOL at "when he went to the nba" when referring to dr J

    newsflash ? , DR J is the reason the NBA bought the ABA and then changed its rules. you are a dumb ? , stop posting

    then your ? said clyde drexler was better than jordan before 96?? 95-96 is when the bulls went 72-10 !!!!
  • UPTOWN
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    LOL at pushing the wack button cause i hurt your ? little feelings LOL

    by the way ? you pulling up all these stats but the doc is 6th in all time scoring

    the reason why you dont see him on the list is because alot of his points are in the aba

    then you point out his stats dropping no ? ? that was towards the end of his career in the nba

    just ? yourself
  • blu197
    blu197 Members Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    blu197 wrote: »
    blu197 wrote: »
    Dr.J is a legend but most of his legacy comes from being the first popular black guard/forward and his swag with the fro and ? .... He didnt run the 70s or 80s by any means, but he was the most exciting player to watch at that time (until Magic brought showtime) just b/c he was the most exciting player doesn't mean he was best.. theres a reason his stats dropped about 25% across the board when he got to the NBA, he wasnt a good defender he only has 1 ABA all defensive 1st team award and none in the NBA, he wasnt a good shooter this is guy who took a minimal amount of 3s and shot 29% in the ABA and 26% once he got the NBA, he wasnt a good playmaker just look @ his ast numbers.... So my top 5 SFs are LBJ,Bird,Hondo,Pippen,KD... It's a toss up for the 6th spot between Dr.J and Baylor

    you're a ? idiot tho

    Prove what I said wrong or ? hoe

    how about we just look at your track record
    blu197 wrote: »
    Clyde was Jordan's equal pre-96 if not better cause his J was more reliable than Jordan's..... Jordan had Scottie and Horace grant and great 3pt shooters while Clyde had terry porter and kelsey


    its not even worth discussing with you because you dont even know ?

    LOL at "when he went to the nba" when referring to dr J

    newsflash ? , DR J is the reason the NBA bought the ABA and then changed its rules. you are a dumb ? , stop posting

    then your ? said clyde drexler was better than jordan before 96?? 95-96 is when the bulls went 72-10 !!!!

    Lmaoo @ you bringing up old ? and trying to change the subject b/c you can't deny facts you lame...... And I said Clyde was MJ's EQUAL pre 96 from a talent perspective b/c he could do anything Jordan could (besides defend) @ that time, Jordan just had the green light to shoot more and Clyde just didnt bring it every night like MJ did
  • blu197
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    LOL at pushing the wack button cause i hurt your ? little feelings LOL

    by the way ? you pulling up all these stats but the doc is 6th in all time scoring

    the reason why you dont see him on the list is because alot of his points are in the aba

    then you point out his stats dropping no ? ? that was towards the end of his career in the nba

    just ? yourself

    You don't think i kno that, like i said the ABA was a joke nothin but And1 ball, each game was about as competitive as a all star game.... Dr.J had seasons where he avg 30+ but he took 25+ shots to get it
  • coop9889
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    blu197 wrote: »

    Lmaoo @ you bringing up old ? and trying to change the subject b/c you can't deny facts you lame...... And I said Clyde was MJ's EQUAL pre 96 from a talent perspective b/c he could do anything Jordan could (besides defend) @ that time, Jordan just had the green light to shoot more and Clyde just didnt bring it every night like MJ did

    ? .

    You cant say one basketball is an equal to another player and then say, well EXCEPT defending. Defending is half the game.
  • ericb4prez
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    Talk to me about Dr. J's jumpshot. Never really see that in the highlight films. Legit statement.

    kinda like the ? who said he got him in his top 3 lol

    Let it go dawg yall got a team on da come up lls

    damn i cant even make a joke without ? thinking im hating lmao
  • ericb4prez
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    FlightKing wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    Talk to me about Dr. J's jumpshot. Never really see that in the highlight films. Legit statement.

    kinda like the ? who said he got him in his top 3 lol

    Touche. But LeBron's jumper is getting pretty consistent, especially from where he came from. It's not automatic but it's pretty damn good.

    man come on if that was the case the spurs wouldnt have been defending him the way they did by basically givin him the open jumper, not sayin he hasnt improved tho
  • Mister B.
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    blu197 wrote: »
    TheBossman wrote: »
    blu197 wrote: »
    Dr.J couldn't shoot, i thought that was a universal fact...

    I forgot about him but my ? Hondo>>Dr.J

    8 Rings 1FMvp

    Better shooter, WAY better defender, better in ast and getting teammates involved,better scorer imo he put up 26K+ points with no 3 point line and he leads the Cs in points all time which is also impressive...

    bruh, you talking like you was around watching this ? live, GTFOH.

    I can say the same for yall about Dr.J so what's your point?

    Hondo>>>
    Wrong. Some of us ARE old enough to see Julius the Great do his thing.

    18? ? . You're not even allowed to tell us how great Jordan was. FOH.
  • NothingButTheTruth
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    Dr. J is better than all of these clowns y'all naming, and I mean way better. The only SF in his realm is Bird, and that's only due to career/accomplishments. 1v1 J would ? Bird.

    Btw SMH @ dudes saying LBJ or Durant. Way too soon.
  • NothingButTheTruth
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    And smart ? overstand the Pippen hype. Y'all hype dude in an attempt to lessen Jordan's greatness.

    Y'all not slick.
  • playmaker88
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    And smart ? overstand the Pippen hype. Y'all hype dude in an attempt to lessen Jordan's greatness.

    Y'all not slick.
    its the other way around Jordan is thought of as the Goat ...you cant diminish him
  • NothingButTheTruth
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    And smart ? overstand the Pippen hype. Y'all hype dude in an attempt to lessen Jordan's greatness.

    Y'all not slick.
    its the other way around Jordan is thought of as the Goat ...you cant diminish him

    Explain how having an all-time great teammate of that caliber helps your case as the GOAT?
  • UPTOWN
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    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    Talk to me about Dr. J's jumpshot. Never really see that in the highlight films. Legit statement.

    kinda like the ? who said he got him in his top 3 lol

    Touche. But LeBron's jumper is getting pretty consistent, especially from where he came from. It's not automatic but it's pretty damn good.

    man come on if that was the case the spurs wouldnt have been defending him the way they did by basically givin him the open jumper, not sayin he hasnt improved tho

    so i guess you didnt see those clutch 3's he was hitting in those late series games. of course you give lebron the shot over the drive LOL WTF?? no lebron is not a pure shooter but if you have to choose you die by the jumper, not giving him green lights down the lane dunking on ppl and getting to the foul line LOL
  • playmaker88
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    Is jordan not the GOAT is he not recognised and appreciated as such the world over, i rest my case
  • NothingButTheTruth
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    That's because general consensus is Pippen was just a good player, not a great player. Or at least not of the upper echelon of HOFs.
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    Mister B. wrote: »
    blu197 wrote: »
    TheBossman wrote: »
    blu197 wrote: »
    Dr.J couldn't shoot, i thought that was a universal fact...

    I forgot about him but my ? Hondo>>Dr.J

    8 Rings 1FMvp

    Better shooter, WAY better defender, better in ast and getting teammates involved,better scorer imo he put up 26K+ points with no 3 point line and he leads the Cs in points all time which is also impressive...

    bruh, you talking like you was around watching this ? live, GTFOH.

    I can say the same for yall about Dr.J so what's your point?

    Hondo>>>
    Wrong. Some of us ARE old enough to see Julius the Great do his thing.

    18? ? . You're not even allowed to tell us how great Jordan was. FOH.

    YOU weren't.Dr J retired in 1987 you said you were born in 82 aint no 4-5 year olds watching nba games and understanding them Foh

    ? already clowned you for saying you remember watching kareem play.
  • ericb4prez
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    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    Talk to me about Dr. J's jumpshot. Never really see that in the highlight films. Legit statement.

    kinda like the ? who said he got him in his top 3 lol

    Touche. But LeBron's jumper is getting pretty consistent, especially from where he came from. It's not automatic but it's pretty damn good.

    man come on if that was the case the spurs wouldnt have been defending him the way they did by basically givin him the open jumper, not sayin he hasnt improved tho

    so i guess you didnt see those clutch 3's he was hitting in those late series games. of course you give lebron the shot over the drive LOL WTF?? no lebron is not a pure shooter but if you have to choose you die by the jumper, not giving him green lights down the lane dunking on ppl and getting to the foul line LOL

    He said his jumper was consistent which is false cuz you don't give open shots to consistent jump shooters and the most clutch 3 hit hit came after he bricked a wide open 1 and bosh jus happen to get the rebound and give it back to him to redeem himself
  • blu197
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    And smart ? overstand the Pippen hype. Y'all hype dude in an attempt to lessen Jordan's greatness.

    Y'all not slick.
    its the other way around Jordan is thought of as the Goat ...you cant diminish him

    Explain how having an all-time great teammate of that caliber helps your case as the GOAT?

    I can ask you the same question, don't you think Kareem is the GOAT but he played with Magic (the best PG of all time) and Worthy (Top 10 @ his position all time) and the Big O (Top 3-5 @ his position all time) how does having teammates of the caliber help your case as the GOAT??
  • blu197
    blu197 Members Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pippen>>>Dr.J

    Let me ask yall a question, your team is down 3 with 2 seconds left who do you want shooting the 3 to tie Scottie or Dr.J??

    Now let me flip that question, your team is up 3 with 2 seconds left who do you want guarding the best perimeter player on the court Scottie or Dr.J???

    If you have any Bball knowledge Scottie should easily be the answer for both... I hate when you give Scottie credit ppl say you're trying to diminish Jordan... The man deserves his props for being hands down the 2nd best player on arguably the greatest dynasty in NBA history (imo is the greatest dynasty)..... Playing with Jordan was a gift and a curse for Scottie but was just a gift for Jordan... If Dr.J played with Jordan he would be Scottie aswell a poor version of one @ that
  • Trollio
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    "i was born in 97, saw jordan in his prime"
    "i was born in 87, saw kareem in his prime and understood it"
    "i was born in 82, saw bill russell in his prime and i was a black panther member"


    ^^only in the cheap seats
  • UPTOWN
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    ericb4prez wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    FlightKing wrote: »
    Talk to me about Dr. J's jumpshot. Never really see that in the highlight films. Legit statement.

    kinda like the ? who said he got him in his top 3 lol

    Touche. But LeBron's jumper is getting pretty consistent, especially from where he came from. It's not automatic but it's pretty damn good.

    man come on if that was the case the spurs wouldnt have been defending him the way they did by basically givin him the open jumper, not sayin he hasnt improved tho

    so i guess you didnt see those clutch 3's he was hitting in those late series games. of course you give lebron the shot over the drive LOL WTF?? no lebron is not a pure shooter but if you have to choose you die by the jumper, not giving him green lights down the lane dunking on ppl and getting to the foul line LOL

    He said his jumper was consistent which is false cuz you don't give open shots to consistent jump shooters and the most clutch 3 hit hit came after he bricked a wide open 1 and bosh jus happen to get the rebound and give it back to him to redeem himself

    well see thats just it ... the words he typed are still there. i bolded them for you. what part of that dont you understand. he said lebron IS GETTING PRETTY CONSISTENT, not that he is a consistent jump shooter

    then i said "so i guess you didnt see those clutch 3's he was hitting in those late series games."

    and you argued that his most clutch three "came after he bricked a wide open 1 and bosh jus happen to get the rebound and give it back to him to redeem himself"

    so you agree that he hit more than one clutch three in those late games of the series, but some how you bring up which one was more clutch than the others

    do you understand what youre doing here?? you gotta read fam, otherwise youre arguing apples and oranges.
  • UPTOWN
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    blu197 wrote: »
    Pippen>>>Dr.J

    Let me ask yall a question, your team is down 3 with 2 seconds left who do you want shooting the 3 to tie Scottie or Dr.J??

    Now let me flip that question, your team is up 3 with 2 seconds left who do you want guarding the best perimeter player on the court Scottie or Dr.J???

    If you have any Bball knowledge Scottie should easily be the answer for both... I hate when you give Scottie credit ppl say you're trying to diminish Jordan... The man deserves his props for being hands down the 2nd best player on arguably the greatest dynasty in NBA history (imo is the greatest dynasty)..... Playing with Jordan was a gift and a curse for Scottie but was just a gift for Jordan... If Dr.J played with Jordan he would be Scottie aswell a poor version of one @ that

    why dont you talk about the two years scottie had without jordan??